If you crack jokes on my team being an easy sweep and then we are the ones who might be sweeping the Tigers, I'm gonna mention it, sorry. Trust me, I could be rubbing it in a LOT more while I have the chance. Nowhere have I said the Tigers suck. Nowhere have I said that KC is better. After ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL the crap I take as a Royals fan EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME, I'm gonna give some of it back when we win. Deal with it. The Royals are mocked more than any other organization in baseball, some of it deserved, some of it ignorant. When we prove those critics wrong, I'm gonna mention it.

congrats u won the first two games obv not a big deal since the tigers are still gonna win the division

The Tigers are a good team, but how can you be so sure they are going to win the division? Cleveland has a very very good offense as well and their pitching looks FAR superior.......things can change over the course of the season, but they are not the favorite. Too bad you simply believe the ESPN hype and nothing else.

Trouble is ESPN does not have them even getting into the playoffs.

They have Cleveland, Sox, Mariners, and Yankees in the WC the last ESPN Baseball program I watched which was the night before opening day. That of course changed because a month or so ago at the beginning of spring training they had them going all the way.

Anything can happen and no way am I throwing in the towel on this season like half of Detroit seems to be doing. But this will not be a cake walk as I have said time and time again, I still like our chances but the games have to be played.

So now I understand all the hate and negativity towards the WhiteSox. It's all soooooooo much clearer now.

For some reason I am finding this whole series incredibly funny.

The city is going bonkers.

People are claiming that Dambrowski and Illitch are committing fraud towards the season ticket holders.

Wow, you guys got swept by the Royals. loooooooool

Just saving this for Sunday...

You guys got swept by the R-O-Y-A-L-S. looooooool

It could be worse, they could've gotten swept by the ChiSox...you know, the worst team in the AL Central.


I just heard on ESPN that Sheffield has torn a tendon in his hand I think....no word on if he will miss any time or how much time he will miss.

We have a win, so that statement is false.

So by that logic, the Royals are the best team in all of baseball? SWEET!!!!!

Seriously though, the White Sox are in for a long year....offense is getting older and not enough young arms to save them....Danks did look good today though.....

Everyone's offense is older. Soooooo? How much older are they than the average?

Cabrera, Konerko, Thome, and Dye are all in their 30's. When you are past your prime, that generally means you are declining with each passing year.

A team with guys in their mid-20's will be improving as they move into their prime years.

Theoretically.

That's the point.

Come on. Thome is 37, Konerko is 32, Cabrera is 33, Dye is 34, AJ is 31........a lot of your biggest bats are getting older. No one is saying they are so old right now that they completely suck, but overall, your offensive roster is declining...you know, that offense that score only 693 runs last year, good for DEAD LAST in the American League. The offense was bad last year and is getting older..and the pitching staff was terrible last year and is pretty much comprised of the same people this year, minus Garland, a decent pitcher. Come on.....everyone can see this team is going the wrong way fast...too bad your GM can't see it and is still giving away prospects to acquire older players when they are nowhere close to competing, when they need those prospect oh so badly.

Ozzie will be gone by the end of the year and they'll be calling for Williams job as well.

Tigers down 8-5 right now......I am rooting for Detroit this series, I hate the ChiSox, but man oh man is Detroit pitching flat out brutal today.

Yeah, Contreras was great as well.

Grilli is a donkey and it boggles my mind how he is still on the team. Their excuse all off season was that he was not in his usual role last year, having to pitch 3+ innings instead of 1. Pfft, can't seem to get one down today at all.

At least the bats are going. One step at a time I guess...pfft.

Why so much hatred?

Oh and Hi SBriand!!

HELLO!

Mods, can you change thread subtitle to 0-162???

And now after I post this, Detroit will finally win their first game.

LFT

Oh well. I got nothing interesting to say. I surely didn't predict this start but I believe it is fair to say no one thought they would start 0-6.

I am glad they are going on the road. I think they need to get out of Detroit for a bit. Luckily they get to play a struggling Red Sox team who have lost 4 straight I believe, I could be wrong. Who knows.

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Ya, not the start the Tigers were hoping for. On the bright side, the Jays are playing well!

Please win a game. You can't go 0-10 to start the year...you just can't. You gotta figure to win 90 (at least) to win the division....to start 0-10, you'd have to go AT LEAST 90-62....that's close to .600 baseball the rest of the way.......it's still early enough to think the Tigers can rebound, but time's running out.

I made a bet with a friend's uncle that the Tigers would not win 110 games this year (he's a delusional Tigers fan.) Needless to say, I feel pretty comfortable.

lol 110 games, that's a tough feat no matter who the team is.

All the Tigers fans where I work (8-10 people maybe...) pretty much all felt the Tigers were a lock to win 105 games this year as soon as they traded for Miguel Cabrera.

I told them they were rediculous.

They avoid me now.

I figured somewhere in the 90's. I surely had no expectations of what is going on now. Some of these games were winnable with any sort of offensive output.

If Grilli is on this team a week from today I will go ballistic. I stupidly believed all the talk during the off-season that he was put into odd circumstances last year and this year he will be back to his normal role and be servicable. I was looking at the stats last night and seeing how Lopez who allegedly sucks has had 5 or 6 innings of 0 run pitching from the bullpen and I was completely surprised (and my wife was too which made me feel better about my memory) that Grilli had only pitched 1.1 innings this year. I really thought he had about 4-6 innings in so far. It's just that he is out there for soooooo long that it felt like that. Leyland said Sunday that he will no longer offer an more chances, if you can't produce you will be gone. He better stick to that. We really need to get that one kid a Visa to get him here to pitch.

Koop's right...can't dig yourself too big a hole, no matter how good you are.

Yeah, outside of a couple games, the pitching hasn't really been the problem, it's definitely the offense.

I'm going to see the Tigers when they come down to Toronto, it'd be pretty comical if they were like 0-18 by the time I see them

You're gonna have to now hope for 1-17 cause we finally won a game and looked good doing it.

Good start from Bondo, only 1 ER.

No runs given up by Seay, Beltran, Bautista, and Jones (though as usual he made it interesting).

Renteria looked good, Guillen with a HR, Thames with a long shot, Clete laying down great sac bunts, Inge coming through with a 2 run single, etc

They looked good. Now we just gotta keep it up. But I won't lie, it feels good to see them get their first win.

i have no doubt the tigers will be playing 600 ball by the all star game.

Canadians are supposed to cheer for the Jays...


TRAITOR

i was born before the blue jays...i was even eating hotdogs at tiger stadium before the blue jays. Not to mention, for years i could look out my window and SEE Tiger stadium. I LOVE THE TIGERS

LALALALA...I can't hear you.

I too, was born well before the jays, but they turned me into a baseball fanatic as an 11-year-old.

I am going to the game tomorrow...

whoopdee doo.

So, when is the right time to panic? It's still early..........................but pitching isn't just gonna appear out of nowhere.

if this was mid season, there would be no panic. Stay calm. The bats are yet to heat up. Maggs, Polanco, Granderson, Cabrerra.....all SOLID 300+ hitters. it will turn around once the bats do.

As for being a tigers fan as opposed to a jays fan...I grew up at Tiger Stadium. I could hear the roar of the crowd from my bedroom window in '84 when they won it all. When i was a kid, my dad would take me over about 10 times a year, then we'd go for a burger at lindel's. If someone "great" was coming to town we were definately there (i got to see nolan ryan pitch the last time he was in detroit). Comerica park is nice, but it's not TS. But the Tigers are the Tigers and they've given me so many awesome memories over the years.

I don't think there is a need to panic, this team has little chance to get in the post season with what we have right now. They will pull out of this slump for sure, and I will be going to my 12 games this year cheering them on, but they are digging themselves into a deep hole that many have not gotten out of to head to the post-season. Dave needs to start working on figuring out how he is going to fix his BP next year. We have the offense, I think, but the pitching is worse than expected. I knew it was going to be bad, but not THIS bad.

I have yet to jump on the starting pitching sucks bandwagon yet. I think they are under a huge amount of pressure to go out and try and be perfect, last 8 innings and give up no more than 1 run which results in sloppy play. They know the offense is gone and they know the BP is a run sieve. When the offense fires up then I think there is a huge weight lifted off the starting rotation and they will get better. We'll see though.

Really? 2-10 and no worries??? This team was supposed to be a "World Series lock" (funny how I can find no more Tigers fans to admit to have thought this......when before the season started it was all I heard from them...........) to now the dead worst team in baseball at the moment. Of course they will get better, but they need to go 88-62 AT A MINIMUM most likely to make the playoffs.......I'm not saying panic now.....but another bad streak and it could be too late. I don't know.

I don't think I seriously said WS. But playoffs for sure. I was wrong, completely wrong. But I don't think anyone would have predicted they would have gone 2-10 and shutout 4 times in 12 games. Well, today on the local radio people have been calling in saying they predicted it but they are obviously full of crap.

I suspect that me going to the game tonight will start a 20-5 streak. If not then next Wed. when I go. sw

I'm not talking about you. You were a bit more realistic. I'm talking about other idiots who were telling me the Tigers might win 110 game.....WS for sure.....1000+ runs guaranteed...blah blah blah. Just casual fans who got caught up in the ESPN hype.

No, nobody could've seen this start coming. I thought they'd be a good team, just not a great one. With Clevelan struggling, the Tigers aren't out of the division race yet....but they better get started quick. I still say the ChiSox will struggle and the Twins don't have enough to win the division, and the Royals are a much better team, but still not contenders unless the bats get real hot for a good stretch of games....it's the Indians division all the way right now, but they aren't taking advantage either.

Now that was fun.

There was a glimpse of what this offense should look like. Now we just need to continue hitting. Most around here are saying they are out of their slump. I am not on that bandwagon yet. I get one foot on if they can hit well again tonight.


Sheff is looking really good. He said that on Saturday he felt some of his scar tissue in his shoulder breaking up after the game and then Sunday and last night he was hitting the ball well.

This could be fun.

well, the bats are certainly heating up now and it's really really refreshing to see. TBH, with a salary that high, OF COURSE anybody would expect them to make the world series, if you think about it, nobody spends that kind of money for a losing season.

I am a diehard fan, i truly suffered through the tough seasons, and i'm so ready for another great one. Mind you, it hasn't started out picture perfect, but still, with almost 150 games left, i'm definately not counting them out of anything.

dont you guys know that the Marlins always get the best end of all their trades? It is uncanny.

Okay, now let's try and just dominate an entire game instead of waiting till the 8th inning to take the lead. The bats are definitely heating up but only in spurts.

Winning both games in Cleveland would be huge though even though it is this early in the season.

ahhhhh so this is what it was supposed to look like

hah...just saw the score and KNEW you'd be posting here.