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SuitedAces21
Fire Carl Peterson, please.

For any Chiefs fans, who do we want in this draft (08)? Or do we trade down?

I say take Matt Ryan if he is there. Otherwise trade down.

Jake Long, Chris Long, or Glenn Dorsey would be acceptable.
Vinnie_Terranova
Looks like its just you and me, buddy.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (Vinnie_Terranova @ Thursday, February 28th, 2008, 6:57 PM) *
Looks like its just you and me, buddy.


You are all I need.

You're all I need.

I'm in the middle of your picture.

Lying in the reeds.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Wednesday, February 27th, 2008, 5:13 PM) *
Fire Carl Peterson, please.

For any Chiefs fans, who do we want in this draft (08)? Or do we trade down?

I say take Matt Ryan if he is there. Otherwise trade down.

Jake Long, Chris Long, or Glenn Dorsey would be acceptable.



trade down and take Flacco or Brohm??? Brodie is not the answer.
aadams_22
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Wednesday, February 27th, 2008, 7:13 PM) *
Fire Carl Peterson, please.

For any Chiefs fans, who do we want in this draft (08)? Or do we trade down?

I say take Matt Ryan if he is there. Otherwise trade down.

Jake Long, Chris Long, or Glenn Dorsey would be acceptable.


no love for your hometown team?
Vinnie_Terranova
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, February 29th, 2008, 3:27 PM) *
trade down and take Flacco or Brohm??? Brodie is not the answer.


I agree Brodie is not the answer. Hopefully they take Ryan if he is available. Im not sure about the other two.


QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Friday, February 29th, 2008, 4:01 PM) *
no love for your hometown team?


It was a tough decision. I went Chiefs because of the cool thread title. Something to rally around.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (Vinnie_Terranova @ Friday, February 29th, 2008, 5:17 PM) *
I agree Brodie is not the answer. Hopefully they take Ryan if he is available. Im not sure about the other two.
It was a tough decision. I went Chiefs because of the cool thread title. Something to rally around.



if Matt Ryan gets past Atlanta at #3 I will be stunned.....
Vinnie_Terranova
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, February 29th, 2008, 6:28 PM) *
if Matt Ryan gets past Atlanta at #3 I will be stunned.....


Prolly so.

Would you call me crazy if I told you I pray every night for a Brady Quinn trade?
Jadaki
I think Croyle will make a decent NFL QB, I wouldn't waste a first round pick on a QB when you have a good prospect now. They need to improve the O-line.
Vinnie_Terranova
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Friday, February 29th, 2008, 8:56 PM) *
I think Croyle will make a decent NFL QB, I wouldn't waste a first round pick on a QB when you have a good prospect now. They need to improve the O-line.


The Chiefs need an O-Line, a secondary, two linebackers, a reciever or two, a fullback, and a kicker. Maybe another d lineman. And a Quarterback (Croyle or otherwise).

Other than that, they are set.
SuitedAces21
The Falcons just signed Michael Turner. This means they probably wont be taking McFadden and will take Matt Ryan.

Damn.
TRB05
ALL of the talk around town is that Jake Long is the pick if he's available. I sure hope he is and they take him. If he's not there I think they try and trade down to the middle of the first round and pick up the next best tackle there while getting another 2nd/3rd round pick.

I actually think Croyle can be successful in Herm's dink and dunk type offense, IF he can stay healthy. The biggest factor in his health being the O-Line, obviously. That being said, if Ryan is available, I wouldn't be upset if they took him.

As for Peterson, I think the writing is on the wall that he is just riding out his contract (3 years left I think), and Herm is in more control now, letting go all of those "over-the-hill" players last week.

Anyone know much about Demorrio Williams, the LB they signed a few days ago?
CaneBrain
Jake Long would be a great pick. Very safe, smart pick.
KowboyKoop
Wow...some are already giving up on Brodie Croyle???? A half season doesn't seem like very long for a young QB to prove himself........how can you expect to rebuild when you want to replace every player who doesn't dominate immediately, especially when we have no O-line and therefore no running game.

O-line is our biggest need and it's not close. Give Brodie time to throw and a running game to work with and then judge him.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (KowboyKoop @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 6:31 AM) *
Wow...some are already giving up on Brodie Croyle???? A half season doesn't seem like very long for a young QB to prove himself........how can you expect to rebuild when you want to replace every player who doesn't dominate immediately, especially when we have no O-line and therefore no running game.

O-line is our biggest need and it's not close. Give Brodie time to throw and a running game to work with and then judge him.



I never liked him. 2nd rate SEC QB. just my opinion.
Jadaki
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 11:56 AM) *
I never liked him. 2nd rate SEC QB. just my opinion.


I liked him despite that he played for Alabama.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (KowboyKoop @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 10:31 AM) *
Wow...some are already giving up on Brodie Croyle???? A half season doesn't seem like very long for a young QB to prove himself........how can you expect to rebuild when you want to replace every player who doesn't dominate immediately, especially when we have no O-line and therefore no running game.

O-line is our biggest need and it's not close. Give Brodie time to throw and a running game to work with and then judge him.


If you cant beat out Damon Huard in preseason, you aint worth shit.
Jadaki
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 1:17 PM) *
If you cant beat out Damon Huard in preseason, you aint worth shit.


I'm pretty sure the plan was all along to start Huard and slowly transition to Croyle during the season.
custom36
QUOTE (KowboyKoop @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 8:31 AM) *
Wow...some are already giving up on Brodie Croyle???? A half season doesn't seem like very long for a young QB to prove himself........how can you expect to rebuild when you want to replace every player who doesn't dominate immediately, especially when we have no O-line and therefore no running game.

O-line is our biggest need and it's not close. Give Brodie time to throw and a running game to work with and then judge him.


QFT

But, from draft day, I've believed Brodie Croyle = Kyle Boller
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 7:16 PM) *
I'm pretty sure the plan was all along to start Huard and slowly transition to Croyle during the season.


Im pretty sure they wanted Brodie to win it. They gave him every oppurtunity and he was awful. Radio guys here were pretty adament that Brodie lost it. Or at least didnt win it win given the chance.

QUOTE (custom36 @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 9:55 PM) *
QFT

But, from draft day, I've believed Brodie Croyle = Kyle Boller


Thats not really saying much. Maybe Brodie has it, maybe not. But It cant hurt to look at drafting another QB.
TRB05
I've been hearing all this talk of the Cowboys trading up to get D. McFadden. What do you guys think if he falls to #5, and the Cowboys offer both of their 1st round picks for the Chiefs pick? I don't really think there's much of a chance of it happening, but I can hope.

Oh we signed someone else today, a big name WR .....Devard Darling...?

That's all right with me, I kinda like not throwing away money on 30+ year old never was's like they have in the past.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 9:17 PM) *
I've been hearing all this talk of the Cowboys trading up to get D. McFadden. What do you guys think if he falls to #5, and the Cowboys offer both of their 1st round picks for the Chiefs pick? I don't really think there's much of a chance of it happening, but I can hope.


Here is a cynical question. What makes you think they wont fuck those picks up, if they got them?


At least if they stay at 5, the quality of player left will make it less likely he will be a bust.
TRB05
Well, they screwed up in 2002(I think) drafting Sims at #6, so they are certainly capable of screwing #5. I don't know, that would give them 3 picks in the top 36 picks overall. It would be hard to miss completely on all of them.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Wednesday, March 12th, 2008, 5:31 PM) *
Well, they screwed up in 2002(I think) drafting Sims at #6, so they are certainly capable of screwing #5. I don't know, that would give them 3 picks in the top 36 picks overall. It would be hard to miss completely on all of them.


Yeah, Sims was a bad pick. I guess I am scared they will fuck up no matter what they do.
Jadaki
Latest projected draft on ESPN was showing the Chiefs grabbing Long from Michigan.
WKTSWAY
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 10:45 PM) *
Here is a cynical question. What makes you think they wont fuck those picks up, if they got them?
At least if they stay at 5, the quality of player left will make it less likely he will be a bust.


If they don't trade down or have OT Long available, they almost have to reach for the next best OT. Just because they pick that guy at 5 doesn't mean it's less likely to be a bad pick. It would be too high for him, but they would almost have no choice because they need help on the O-Line that bad.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (WKTSWAY @ Thursday, March 13th, 2008, 12:08 PM) *
If they don't trade down or have OT Long available, they almost have to reach for the next best OT. Just because they pick that guy at 5 doesn't mean it's less likely to be a bad pick. It would be too high for him, but they would almost have no choice because they need help on the O-Line that bad.


I disagree. I think they need to take the best available player if a trade is not available. They cannot take the next best OT if he doesnt belong at the 5 spot.
TRB05
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Thursday, March 13th, 2008, 11:23 AM) *
I disagree. I think they need to take the best available player if a trade is not available. They cannot take the next best OT if he doesnt belong at the 5 spot.


I agree with you here, the OT position is deep this year, and I think the caliber of player at 36 is going to be pretty comparable to whoever they would be reaching for at 5. That's mainly why I think trading down is a good option, because OT is so deep.

Edit: SuitedAces, I want to thank your Huskers for ending a miserable basketball season for my Tigers tonight.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Thursday, March 13th, 2008, 8:48 PM) *
Edit: SuitedAces, I want to thank your Huskers for ending a miserable basketball season for my Tigers tonight.


Christ that was awful to watch. Two terrible teams. I absolutely despise mizzou though, so Im happy with the outcome. Now to watch KU beat the hell out of the huskers tommorow.
WKTSWAY
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Thursday, March 13th, 2008, 11:23 AM) *
I disagree. I think they need to take the best available player if a trade is not available. They cannot take the next best OT if he doesnt belong at the 5 spot.


I agree with you on what they SHOULD do...I'm just telling you what they WILL do...
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (WKTSWAY @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 2:41 AM) *
I agree with you on what they SHOULD do...I'm just telling you what they WILL do...


Oh.

Unfortunately for all Chiefs fans, you are probably right.

I blame Clark Hunt. Grow a pair and fire Petersons worthless ass.
TRB05
Apparantly Jared Allen is shopping himself around for a possible trade. It seems as though most fans are upset about it around KC, and I understand their frustration but I really don't mind. If the Chiefs don't trade him, and he plays this year, then refuses to re-sign (I think this is his last year, yes?), then they won't get anything for him anyway, so might as well get some quality draft picks for him. Carl must really be an asshole.
LeroyBrown
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Friday, April 18th, 2008, 6:54 PM) *
Carl must really be an asshole.


Chiefs are gonna lose one of the top DE's in the league becuase of that assclown.

It just keeps getting worse.
freak2304
Yep. No more calf roping celebrations in KC. Hopefully the picks they acquired for him end up paying off, for a change. I'm new to this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been discussed or not, but what's everyone's thoughts on Croyle as QB? I know he's still young, but imo we already need to go in another direction. He's DEFINATELY not the future of this franchise....at least to me.

Edit: Ok, I just read through the 1st page so I'm all caught up now. I agree with the poster who said Croyle is a 2nd-rate SEC QB. As a big Florida Gator football fan, I've watched alot of SEC football over the past 10-12 years and he didn't impress me in college. His wife is major hot in her local car dealership commercials, so keep him around as a back-up.
SuitedAces21
Im in a hopeful mood today, so I'll say that getting a first and two thirds for J Allen could turn out well.

But then again, with king carl drafting, two of those three picks will be busts.
freak2304
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008, 1:46 PM) *
Im in a hopeful mood today, so I'll say that getting a first and two thirds for J Allen could turn out well.

But then again, with king carl drafting, two of those three picks will be busts.


Who do you think we should take at #5 overall, being if they're available? Matt Ryan? Trade down and try to get Ryan Clady around 10ish?
TRB05
QUOTE (freak2304 @ Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008, 5:41 PM) *
Who do you think we should take at #5 overall, being if they're available? Matt Ryan? Trade down and try to get Ryan Clady around 10ish?


I'm starting to really think that Matt Ryan is going to be the pick if he's there, and then and OT/DE at 17, OT/CB/DE at 35. I wouldn't be really disappointed if they did trade down to get the 2nd best OT at "10ish," although the hot talk is that the Ravens at #8 are the most likely to want to trade up.

I am OK with the Allen trade, in fact I think the Chiefs got way the better side with 3 top 85 picks.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (freak2304 @ Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008, 6:41 PM) *
Who do you think we should take at #5 overall, being if they're available? Matt Ryan? Trade down and try to get Ryan Clady around 10ish?


I've been saying they need to take Ryan from the begining. And I'll stick with that. Brodie aint gonna get it done. ever.

take an OL/CB at 17. And so on with each pick down the way.
freak2304
I see one of the popular "mock draft" picks is for us to trade w/ New Orleans for their 10th pick and a 2nd or 3rd, I believe, and take the Clady kid out of Boise St. at 10. -shrug-
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (freak2304 @ Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008, 10:34 PM) *
-shrug-


yup.
TRB05
According to a local radio show today, bodog's draft odds say that the favorite to be picked by the Chiefs is Chris Long DE.

Chris Long 2/3

Vernon Gholston 5/4

Branden Albert 7/2

Ryan Clady 4/1

Field 13/4


BODOG DRAFT LINES


That would be OK with me.
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Thursday, April 24th, 2008, 6:50 PM) *
That would be OK with me.


Yeah, I guess. But I'd rather see Matty Ryan.
freak2304
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Thursday, April 24th, 2008, 5:50 PM) *
According to a local radio show today, bodog's draft odds say that the favorite to be picked by the Chiefs is Chris Long DE.

Chris Long 2/3

Vernon Gholston 5/4

Branden Albert 7/2

Ryan Clady 4/1

Field 13/4


BODOG DRAFT LINES
That would be OK with me.


I'd be very surprised if that happened. He seems like a great player, but if we go DE w/ our 1st overall pick I'm gonna puke.
CaneBrain
Getting Dorsey and Albert is a hell of a first round by the Chiefs. Best player in the draft and a very solid o-line piece who can play multiple positions (always a huge plus).
WKTSWAY
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 3:50 PM) *
Getting Dorsey and Albert is a hell of a first round by the Chiefs. Best player in the draft and a very solid o-line piece who can play multiple positions (always a huge plus).


Agreed...good draft for them so far.
SuitedAces21
Dorsey and Albert are good picks, as of now.

But the B Flowers pick, in my opinion, was a bad one. They need a corner, but I think they reached for him at 35.
freak2304
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 7:36 PM) *
Dorsey and Albert are good picks, as of now.

But the B Flowers pick, in my opinion, was a bad one. They need a corner, but I think they reached for him at 35.


Agreed. I am not impressed with Flowers at all. I think they could've picked up just as good of a corner w/ their next pick/pick after that.
TRB05
You guys may be correct that Flowers is not the best overall CB, but for the Chiefs system, I think he is the perfect fit, and I don't think they reached at all seeing as Flowers was projected by most to go late 1st early 2nd.

A-minus so far.
freak2304
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 8:07 PM) *
You guys may be correct that Flowers is not the best overall CB, but for the Chiefs system, I think he is the perfect fit, and I don't think they reached at all seeing as Flowers was projected by most to go late 1st early 2nd.

A-minus so far.


The key words.

Signed,

Paranoid, Usually Disappointed Chiefs Fan
SuitedAces21
I just got home and saw that they took a RB (Jamaal Charles - a good player) with their first pick of the third round. Without having looked at who else was available, can someone explain to me, why in the name jesus christ himself they took a RB in the third round?
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