Whos with me? I think they have a shot at a playoff spot. It's obv gonna be tough but u can win 35-40 games and get in, in the east.

**offical Atlanta Hawks Thread****



oh no you didnt..........

SHIP BIBBY TO THE HAWKS!!!! NOw one of the best backcourts in the East. Joe Johnson and Bibby. Playoffs? They are getting close.

Great trade for the Hawks. They didn't have to give up anything for him. Ant Johnson and Lue are awful pgs and sheldon williams is a bust and Wright hasn't played all yr. Finally Billy knight did something right.

I cant even beleive this deal. SAC basically gets nothing for Bibby. Three expiring deals and the carcus of the Landlord. I find it hard to beleive that CLE couldnt come up with a better offer.

I agree. Lebron is gonna be pissed. But Im so glad the hawks finally can get a legit player to make a playoff push. Now they wont get far but its been 10 yrs since they got in.

Clevland could not come up with a better offer because they did not have anyone Sac wanted. They would rather have cap space (all were enders except Williams) and Petrie may have saw some value in Williams on the cheap.

This gets us under the cap next year, and if we can deal Artest/Miller we have lots of cap room in the next 2-3 years. There is too much talent in the West right now for the Kings to care about getting much value back in this trade.

I am not estatic with it, but its better than getting Gooden/Snow from the Cavs, who would keep us in medicrity.

I think the only one that will be with Sac next yr will be Williams. Johnson and Lue contracts are done. Basically Sac said this season is a wash..lets free up cap sapce for next yr. Plus Martin is a stud. But as a hawks fan its good to see effort from the GM.

But how dont you get rid of K.Thomas's contract when trading your one desirable asset besides Artest?

Im excited for the 2nd half of the season. They can make a real play. Good call in nov on this. GREAT CALL in NOV.

Who wouldnt think a team with three quality wing players( 4 if count childress) would make the playoffs in the east if they had decent PG play?

a big came tonight vs the NEts. Say what you want to but the Hawks need this win and will go along way towards a playoff berth. One time

Mike bibby is a stud..Hawks 4 game lead for playoff spot. Hottest team in nba

Close call on that layup not counting last night.

yes..def couldve gone either way. But its a W as of now and ill take. Bottom line the raptors shouldve finshed them in the 4th. No one to blame but themselves. OBV celts will own them. But Im getting tixs anyways.

That was a crap call. The clock started before the ball even hit TJ's hands. Another crap call from the scoring table in Atlanta. What a gong show there.

Ok one..it wasnt the scoring tables fault. An offical that is on the floor(one of the 3) has a trigger in his pocket..his fault...

TWO..u cannot catch grab and shoot in 0.5 and when u watch replay the time taking away from the early start Ford clearly makes up for it by having it in his hand to long.

Even Ford himself said it could go either way.

Also how did they let the hawks get to that point. Thats the bigger issue.

but ford did make a great play.

I think the official NBA rule says you can do it in .3 seconds or more, anything less and it would have to be a tip.

I agree, it was close, but even with them starting the clock early, he barely missed getting it off. I think it would be closer than you think, as it was not a true shot. It was an alleyoop catch and shoot. Certainly quicker than a jumpshot. But realistically, how can anyone time that perfectly?

How did they let them in the game, by sucking in the fourth quarter....bad. After that second last 3 attempt, how they don't get that rebound is beyond me. They definitely didn't deserve the win.

Was just watching coverage and Al Horford now claims he tipped the inbounds pass. I dont know about this but if its true its obv late shot but I think hes reaching personally. Even though hes a BEAST.

Yes, the Trent Tucker rule.

If I remember correctly, he caught and shot a 3 with .1 seconds left to win a game and the NBA later reviewed it and decided that just isn't possible, so they made it a rule.

Validation

I'll let you decide if I really did remember that and then checked wiki or checked wiki first and then pretended to remember.

did you guys see the sports science episode where they tested that? Jason Kapono hit the shot in .22 seconds

Yeah .3 rule is def Trent tucker. That was a great game. Now i think if its .3 u can tip it in.

Is it a jinks if I order my playoff tixs today? i mean I want to be able to get them. But the are up 3 with like 5 to go. They could blow it?

Bump for the playoffs...I got game 3 tixs first playoff game in ATL in 10 yrs. Prob gonna get swept but at least it should be a fun night.

If ATL cant win it Im rooting for Boston.

Nice to see the ATL love. I sat through like 5 dismal seasons, taking unreal shit for it, so I've got some serious street cred. I will never find the energy to wake up before 6pm to actually go to one of their four games (edit: it now additionally occurs to me that only two of these are in ATL, and it would probably be fairly pricey, at this point, so it's a doubly lost cause) this playoff year, but you can bet I'll be too drunk to care before Boston is up more than 10, and I'll be yelling horrible obscenities at Garnett at such a volume that my stay in the majority of sports bars would be largely undesirable if not abbreviated. So...Applebees' it is.

Yeah I cant wait for tonight...we dont have a chance but, its good to be in.

I act have cheap tixs for game 3. Game is 830 sat night Ill sell them to you for 15 dollars a piece..since your fcp. They are up top but at center court. PM me if you want them.

That's outrageously kind of you, but my schedule allows it not.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Josh Smith was incredible tonight.

he has hops

Yes he does. My only problem is if he hits on jumper he tries to shoot all game and he really can't shoot. But, last night he did. Can't wait for game 4.

Hey at least they didn't get swept

any chance to tie the series tonight?

I'm going to say no.

I'm going to say I sure hope so

WOW 20-3 run by the Hawks to end the first quarter.......this team is actually fun to watch, something we havent had in Atlanta as far as the NBA goes for a long, long time

wow the hawks aren't looking very afraid right now - they have all the energy

we could have a stabbing by the end of this one

ZAZA! aka CT from the Real World getting in KG's face making him look like Davis!!!


Never thought I'd see that

WOAHHHH..we got ourselves a game boyz. The hawks are not backing down. ZSA ZSA ZSA!!!!

I know this cant last but Im gonna stay excited while i can!!!!! Its been 10 yrs

It's absurd but I bet they suspend Marvin Williams for stepping half a foot on the court to watch the fight

I'm horribly confused. Why are they chanting "Pigs Go Home"?

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! ARe u kidding me. Obv they will prob lose series but 2-2.

Joe Johnson could not be stopped. The Celtics are in for a fight.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as a laker fan this is great to watch... lakers just owning the nuggets and watching the celtics struggle with a lowly team like the hawks. good stuff

theyre totally running on emotion so i doubt they can win in boston but it sure makes boston look beatable

yeah when they got down by 11 in the 3rd I said well the emotion is over but it was fun why it lasted. But they just kept on going.

They cant win in Boston but they are the youngest team in NBA and can build on this.

however Woodson is a horrible coach and this will prob save his job even though he has no idea when and when not to call timeouts. He is just not very good.

But on to game 5 and they def will be playing 6

Wow I should have found this section earlier, GO HAWKS!!! What a rally late in the game, this team can do it baby! I don't know how but after what's happened so far I believe they can take down this series and shock the world! Joe Johnson stepped it up so much in the 4th and Josh Smith is just playing out of his mind.

So I was wrong, oops.

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This is what I said to my friend from Boston before the season:

"You may have all the talent in the world, but you still have Doc Rivers as your coach."

LOL at his coaching last night.

The celtics losing this series would be almost as good as LA winning it all.

GO HAWKs

Shawn from Cape Cod: Bill, are you as surprised/disturbed as I am by the players Doc has chosen to have on the floor at key points in games 3 and 4? Sam Cassell is a terrible fit for this series - he can't score or defend against the bigger, faster and more athletic Hawks. Ray Allen clearly can't defend Joe Johnson, and Eddie House was in the game when we had a 10 pt lead and needed a player (Rondo) to play lock down D and take the ball to the basket. I was calling for some Tony Allen on Joe Johnson about halfway through game 3. Clearly, the team as a whole is to blame here, but I can't help but worry about what I'm seeing from Doc, a guy who I felt has been solid all season.

Bill Simmons: (12:04 PM ET ) I'll say this: It took 72 hours to undo 84 games - they don't have a rotation anymore, every bench guy has lost his confidence except Posey, and everyone is looking for their own shot. What scares me is that they played hard in both games. By the way, I'm typing this chat with 2 broken hands - after Doc left Ray Allen on Joe Johnson for the entire fourth quarter, I sparred for 10 rounds with the wall next to my sofa.


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Brian (New York): Glad to see Doc panicking and blaming his players again---that's always fun for everyone.

Bill Simmons: (12:05 PM ET ) Yeah, that's always a pleasure. My favorite part was last night when Mike Fratello told us that Leon Powe didn't play in the second half of Game 3 because he missed five defensive rotations. Gee, where would he get that info? And why is our head coach telling a TV announcer this? Doc has been manipulating the media for four years and that's why he gets a free pass for stinkbombs like last night. End of story.


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Bill, Raleigh, NC: Can you explain Doc's decision to continue to let Ray Allen get abused time and time again by Joe Johnson? Is there a rule against double teaming on the catch? When is the NBA commericial airing that says, "Where Incompetency Happens" and flash pics of Doc, Avery Johnson, and Isiah?

Bill Simmons: (12:07 PM ET ) I can't. I can't even hope to explain it. I could take the next 10 hours and not be able to explain it. Other than Sam Cassell, Ray Allen is the worst perimeter defender on the roster.

Bill Simmons: (12:08 PM ET ) Why we didn't go small and put Posey on Johnson, Allen on Childress, Rondo on Bibby, KG on Horford and Pierce on Josh Smith is just baffling. It's perplexing. It's a move that was as simple as "The yellow light on my car is on, I need to get gas."