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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($17.40)
SB ($11.15)
BB ($9.20)
UTG ($19.05)
MP ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, A.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1.05, 2 folds, MP calls $0.70.

Flop: ($2.25) A, 5, J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.3, MP calls $1.30.

Turn: ($4.85) 5 (2 players)
MP bets $6.3 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $4.85

Notes:
Threebets 45s w/ position on 56Kboard against PFR and calls a 4bet
Opens 66 OTB for standard
cbets 3/4 on 2d4dTd flop with 6d6x and checks behind on Js turn and calls most river bets on non diamond river
Possibly opens light; willing to fold to threebets OOP if raised
Opens KJo from the button, and checks AJx flops when IP and c/c down 6/2 turn/river
Opens A LOT of unopened pots
Donkbets into IPPFR with flushdraws and calls a reraise and checks bricked turn
Pretty LAG

The hand previous the villain opened KJo and c/c'ed down on a AJxxx board and lost like 3/10th of his stack to A3o, thought maybe he was tilting somewhat, but that is really just speculation.
Jordan
weird spot...stakes messing with my head, but i can't see him playing AK/AQ like that...nor any 5.

leaves us w a pretty polarized range to AJ, bluffs, fd, and 56...and I really can ONLY see him shoving turn w AJ, 5x if he someone magically put you on a flush draw all of a sudden and wanted to protect from giving a free card (but obviously he should be raising the flop in that case).

think i'd call here most of the time.

- Jordan
Hector Cerif
I think you'd really have to put him on a steamy flush draw or an all out bluff way more often than likely to justify a call, because we are dead if he has anything.

Plus we know he doesn't even have the A of diamonds so that makes it even less likely.

Why are you three betting here anyway?
I don't think you want to antagonize steamy for exactly this reason.
Jordan
QUOTE (Hector Cerif @ Sunday, February 10th, 2008, 9:14 PM) *
I think you'd really have to put him on a steamy flush draw or an all out bluff way more often than likely to justify a call, because we are dead if he has anything.

Plus we know he doesn't even have the A of diamonds so that makes it even less likely.

Why are you three betting here anyway?
I don't think you want to antagonize steamy for exactly this reason.


his pf stack size is important in this hand...and kinda puts a good reason to 3bet or not 3bet...it's the kinda stack that should be shoving everything in his range that has us dominated (AJ+, JJ+) and folds out shitty opening hands cause he isn't deep enough, or calls with worse and hopes to get lucky...

most guys would shove AQ+ here pf, and if not for w/e reason, def on the flop.

if he has a 5 here and played it taht way, good for him, or AQ, AK, but at upper limits this is almost always a call in my opinion.

- Jordan
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