Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

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UTG ($22.35)
MP ($136.20)
CO ($53.30)
Hero ($52.45)
SB ($62.70)
BB ($59.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, Q.
1 fold, MP raises to $1.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.05, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.20) 8, 3, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.20) A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($4.20) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3.5, MP calls $3.50, Hero ? any value in a raise here...



i wont lie, i probably didn't spend enough time thinking this one through, i flat called but was wondering if there's aaaaaaany value in a raise


i saw none @ a glance...


*i understand nobody's done anything to say they have a 'big hand' here but w/ that in mind what's going to pay me off?
plus i've seen the SB / BB show up w/ holdings like A3s & such here trying to 'slow play & extract max value' which makes no sense... this IS .15/.30 lets not forget....


*edit*

guy in this hand is a dutch aggro donk who plays stupid hands in stupid places.. bluffs unnecessarily & will hang around w/ virtually nothing (mid pairs, under pairs, A high, gut shots, back door flush & straight draws, etc) so the PF call is standard... i've actually been calling flop bets w/ air & taking on the turn...

the way the hand was played, you can be getting calls from bad aces that didnt want to bet and smaller flushes. You could raise, but then if you get repopped its tough to call.

I stab at that flop quite a bit.

With stacks beings o deep I could raise/fold

your hand becomes very transparent when you raise this river. i don't know what calls you, honestly, unless it is a lower flush

You stab the flop? For what reason?

And yes, raise the river.

uhm it's checked to me and I have position? I think a $3 bet wins the pot so often here.

i will occasionally stab as well, but the problem w/ that in this specific scenario is the SB & BB still have to act, they could easily have been checking simply looking to check raise the original raiser...


lets also not for get we have completely bricked this flop & have air.... if i'm stabbing @ this pot, it's on the turn TBH, which i almost did...

exactly

I would've bet this turn here as a semi-bluff. As played, the river might be a good spot for a min-raise

I don't think we're taking this down very often with a flop bet, TBH.

We do have position for on future streets, but then we get into 2 and 3 barrel bluffing people at low limits who don't fold.

And I'm still checking the turn behind like always. We're not going to push anyone off of Ax here at .15/.30 deep, lol.

I don't stab the flop, I check turn, and raise river. I'd make it 10 and fold to a reraise.

This might be one of the very rare situations where I might min raise. I also think just calling is fine. I'm fine with everything else (preflop, flop, turn)