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pezeveng
So here are the odds today I want to place 2 maybe 3 teams to win any advice guys.

Hockey - To Win Outright

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NHL Stanley Cup Book Closes Jun 05 13:05


Win Only

DET Redwings +225 Bet
OTT Senators +460 Bet
ANA M Ducks +600 Bet
MON Canadiens +1200 Bet
PHL Flyers +1400 Bet
SJ Sharks +1400 Bet
PIT Penguins +1600 Bet
NJ Devils +1700 Bet
DAL Stars +1900 Bet
NY Rangers +2300 Bet
COL Avalanche +2300 Bet
MIN Wild +2300 Bet
CAL Flames +2400 Bet
VAN Canucks +2600 Bet
WAS Capitals +3300 Bet
BUF Sabres +3500 Bet
CAR Hurricanes +3500 Bet
ATL Thrashers +4000 Bet
BOS Bruins +4500 Bet
NAS Predators +4500 Bet
PHX Coyotes +6000 Bet
CLB Bluejackets +7500 Bet
STL Blues +7500 Bet
FLA Panthers +7500 Bet
NY Islanders +8000 Bet
CHI Blackhawks +13000 Bet
EDM Oilers +13000 Bet
TB Lightning +13000 Bet
TOR M Leafs +13000 Bet
LA Kings +62500 Bet
pezeveng
The best value is NYR at +2300 I dont like taking the top 3 as there is not enough value.
MapleLeafpoker
I like the values on these 6.

SJ Sharks +1400 Bet
PIT Penguins +1600 Bet
NY Rangers +2300 Bet
CAL Flames +2400 Bet
VAN Canucks +2600 Bet
CAR Hurricanes +3500 Bet
gruven
For value, I like the sharks and the stars..
pezeveng
The Stars have been quietly getting it done this year and they can easily ride Turco as long as his neck is alright.

Dallas, Rangers and if Montreal goes up to 15-1 I will take them. Just in case they win and want something out of it.
pezeveng
Iam stupid for waiting on the Stars I should have jumped on it at 19-1. Pitt is a joke at 8-1

Updated odds.

NHL Stanley Cup Book Closes May 21 16:05


Win Only

DET Redwings +360 Bet
ANA M Ducks +380 Bet
OTT Senators +800 Bet
PIT Penguins +800 Bet
DAL Stars +800 Bet
MON Canadiens +1000 Bet
NJ Devils +1100 Bet
SJ Sharks +1200 Bet
COL Avalanche +1800 Bet
CAL Flames +2400 Bet
NY Rangers +2500 Bet
MIN Wild +2700 Bet
VAN Canucks +2800 Bet
PHL Flyers +3300 Bet
WAS Capitals +3300 Bet
BOS Bruins +3300 Bet
BUF Sabres +3600 Bet
CAR Hurricanes +3500 Bet
NAS Predators +5000 Bet
NY Islanders +6600 Bet
PHX Coyotes +6600 Bet
CLB Bluejackets +11500 Bet
STL Blues +12500 Bet
ATL Thrashers +15000 Bet
CHI Blackhawks +12500 Bet
TOR M Leafs +15000 Bet
TB Lightning +20000 Bet
FLA Panthers +20000 Bet
EDM Oilers +20000 Bet
LA Kings +100000 Bet
serge
I like Jersey at 11-1...For long shots Washington at 33-1 is good...I rather bet these on a trading site, as I think Washinton may have a shot to win a few rounds, but not win the Cup..That way you can really profit without them winning the Cup..

I also like the Leafs at 150-1, as if they made the playoffs , it will certainly go down to like 25 or 30 to 1
troyomac
I actually agree with Serge minus the Leafs part.
sinc
I feel like such a donkey, Dallas was 25-1 in dec in vegas while I was there and I was so close to putting some cash on them, but my buddy talked me out of it lol that useless pos. I think NJ is sweet value at 11-1 right now. I think they are the favorites in the east atm, and they are the exact kind of team that could upset a western team that would likely be favored.
serge
QUOTE (sinc @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 3:21 PM) *
I feel like such a donkey, Dallas was 25-1 in dec in vegas while I was there and I was so close to putting some cash on them, but my buddy talked me out of it lol that useless pos. I think NJ is sweet value at 11-1 right now. I think they are the favorites in the east atm, and they are the exact kind of team that could upset a western team that would likely be favored.

Yes I agree...The only team with a Hall of Fame goalie in the east, is New jersey...
sinc
QUOTE (serge @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 6:23 PM) *
Yes I agree...The only team with a Hall of Fame goalie in the east, is New jersey...


Yea thats exactly what I meant, who would want to bet against Brodeur in the finals? Not me thats for sure. The only time he lost in the finals was in 7 games to the only other goalie in his hemisphere in the last 20 years.
rinswun
QUOTE (serge @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 3:23 PM) *
Yes I agree...The only team with a Hall of Fame goalie in the east, is New jersey...


come on now, please dont put the kiss of serge on jersey - leave that to the habs and sens!
runthemover
we should have a forum bet for avatar / signature or whatever. 16 of us pick one of the playoff teams. (I call San Jose). Maybe only fans of their respective teams are allowed.
troyomac
QUOTE (runthemover @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 3:44 PM) *
we should have a forum bet for avatar / signature or whatever. 16 of us pick one of the playoff teams. (I call San Jose). Maybe only fans of their respective teams are allowed.

I'd play, and take the long shot Bruins smile.gif
pezeveng
iam on dallas
Vertigo
Wings...even though they suck right now.
rinswun
standardly jersey.
Belanger25
I'm so putting 2 dollars in LA. Come on Miracle.
doox
I'd be down for a non-monetary bet and would choose Pittsburgh.
runthemover
maybe should start a new thread for this but whatever. someone can repost it if they are so inclined.

So, avatar and/or sig bet (need to decide) for all the 16 playoff teams. If you pick a team that doesn't make the playoffs then you're are not involved. And, maybe the duration of the required avatar/sig decided by the winner will last until the first training camp opens?

I was thinking maybe just force the losers to have their avatar be the logo of the stanley cup winner. Those with > 1000 posts have a forum title of 'NHL's Best Team' or something.



I gave out a few tentatively to the ones that I think are obvious.

runthemover - san jose
troyomac - bruins
pezeveng - dallas
vertigo - wings
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
digitalmonkey - montreal (tentative)
serge - toronto (tentative)
xeddiex - colorado (tentative)
doox
Man, the post count sure doesn't make me a non-noob. I didn't even realize I could make my own title icon_confused.gif

Maybe once all the teams are divied out, we could do a 2-part poll. One part with the penalties for the losing participants(sig? avatar/title? both?), and the 2nd part would be to determine the duration.
MapleLeafpoker
QUOTE (runthemover @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 9:43 PM) *
maybe should start a new thread for this but whatever. someone can repost it if they are so inclined.

So, avatar and/or sig bet (need to decide) for all the 16 playoff teams. If you pick a team that doesn't make the playoffs then you're are not involved. And, maybe the duration of the required avatar/sig decided by the winner will last until the first training camp opens?

I was thinking maybe just force the losers to have their avatar be the logo of the stanley cup winner. Those with > 1000 posts have a forum title of 'NHL's Best Team' or something.
I gave out a few tentatively to the ones that I think are obvious.

runthemover - san jose
troyomac - bruins
pezeveng - dallas
vertigo - wings
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
digitalmonkey - montreal (tentative)
serge - toronto (tentative)
xeddiex - colorado (tentative)


If I can take anyone still available, I'll take Anaheim.
If I gotta be a fan, then I'll call Carolina and hope they make the playoffs.
gruven
I'll take Dallas........ LOL because they're going to win it. If I have to take one of the teams that are left..... dunno, Washington? And how did YOU guys get first pick ANYWAY? smile.gif
doox
I have no life and managed to get in here before Fryer or Zach did sad.gif
runthemover
doesn't matter much to me. I thought it'd be nicer to have all fans from those teams. But, are there even any ducks fans on the forum? Let alone for many of the other teams.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (runthemover @ Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, 12:24 AM) *
doesn't matter much to me. I thought it'd be nicer to have all fans from those teams. But, are there even any ducks fans on the forum? Let alone for many of the other teams.


7c7s is a Ducks fan.
serge
I will take the Leafs...For all my money..ALL IN
runthemover
well honestly I don't even know if all the people before that picked are fans of those teams. Do we even have fans of all the teams (that are likely to make the playoffs) that post here regularly? It doesn't matter to me how we do it. If others feel differently then speak up but for now I guess first come first serve.

I'd say the duration should depend on seeding a bit. So having a division winner isn't as big of an advantage to someone who has an eighth seed.
doox
QUOTE (runthemover @ Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, 3:44 AM) *
well honestly I don't even know if all the people before that picked are fans of those teams. Do we even have fans of all the teams (that are likely to make the playoffs) that post here regularly? It doesn't matter to me how we do it. If others feel differently then speak up but for now I guess first come first serve.

I'd say the duration should depend on seeding a bit. So having a division winner isn't as big of an advantage to someone who has an eighth seed.



I'll bump this to help give you an idea: http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...+cheers+for+who
strategy
The Wild are my second favorite team after the Blues. I'd gladly take them here if no one else is willing.
runthemover
I think we'd all rather have people that post here regularly or somewhat regularly involved. So, probably best to do first come first serge. I did that one purpose

runthemover - san jose
troyomac - bruins
pezeveng - dallas
vertigo - detroit
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
digitalmonkey - montreal
serge - toronto
xeddiex - colorado (tentative)
mapleleafpoker - anaheim
gruven - washington
strategy - minnesota
ajs510 - buffalo (tentative)


give your opinions on duration of bet and what the bet should be exactly avatar/signature/forum title. And, maybe 'odds' for those with lower seeds? (if they win the duration of the bet is longer)
troyomac
If the Bruins win, I'd just want you guys to put the logo as your avatar. Still let's people have their sig.
Vertigo
If the Wings win, I want everyone to put "Datsyuk in yo' mouth" as their signature! biggrin.gif
Fubar The Sperm
I want Ottawa or Vancouver. Now its time to read what we are betting on.

Edit: I'll take Ottawa. I'd take Vancouver but I like Ottawa's chances more and even though Vancouver is my #1 team and Ottawa is my #2 team I do live in Ottawa.
Vertigo
Some fan...psh... wink.gif
Fubar The Sperm
QUOTE (Vertigo @ Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, 5:07 PM) *
Some fan...psh... wink.gif

Hey I cheer for 2 teams. Gotta pick one. Plus I think there are a couple more Canucks fans here then Ottawa fans so gotta give them a chance to grab a team.
Fenxis
At least have an Ottawa avatar...
7s7c
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Saturday, March 1st, 2008, 9:26 PM) *
7c7s is a Ducks fan.


Indeed. I'm still not sure after skimming through this thread what the gist of it is however. I'm supposed to change my sig if the Ducks don't win the cup?
coesillian
It'll be hard to tell wow is who if everyone who plays and loses has the same avatar.
runthemover
QUOTE (7s7c @ Monday, March 3rd, 2008, 7:43 AM) *
Indeed. I'm still not sure after skimming through this thread what the gist of it is however. I'm supposed to change my sig if the Ducks don't win the cup?

well basically each team has one forum member behind it. If their team wins, they tell the other 15 people in the bet what to make their signature/avatar/forum title (undecided as to what exactly it will be) for an unyet decided length of time.

Unfortunately, someone already has the ducks, but maybe you could convince them to go with another team since you're a ducks fan and (I believe) that person is not.


here's the current list. I'll pm the tentative two tomorrow and see if they want to participate.


runthemover - san jose
troyomac - bruins
pezeveng - dallas
vertigo - detroit
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
digitalmonkey - montreal
serge - toronto
xeddiex - colorado (tentative)
mapleleafpoker - anaheim
gruven - washington
strategy - minnesota
ajs510 - buffalo (tentative)
fubar the sperm - ottawa
MapleLeafpoker
QUOTE (runthemover @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 3:49 AM) *
Unfortunately, someone already has the ducks, but maybe you could convince them to go with another team since you're a ducks fan and (I believe) that person is not.
here's the current list. I'll pm the tentative two tomorrow and see if they want to participate.

mapleleafpoker - anaheim


Hey 7s7c...I don't mind changing to my team, you can have Anaheim. I have a tendency to bet with my head (Ducks) and not my heart (Hurricanes).

change me to Carolina please, Mr.Runthemover.
7s7c
Ok, color me in (Ducks obv.)
serge
This is actually a silly bet, and would never participate if money was involved...

Lets say the Leafs dont make the playoffs..Am I out.?
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 12:21 PM) *
This is actually a silly bet, and would never participate if money was involved...

Lets say the Leafs dont make the playoffs..Am I out.?



But the Leafs have a 6.5% chance of making the playoffs and just making the playoffs would give them a great chance at winning the Cup.

serge
runthemover
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 9:21 AM) *
This is actually a silly bet, and would never participate if money was involved...

Lets say the Leafs dont make the playoffs..Am I out.?

this is precisely why we are making this bet. It's not something where you'd bet money.


Anyone that picks a team that doesn't make the playoffs isn't involved in the bet. It's like a mulligan I guess.

runthemover - san jose
troyomac - bruins
pezeveng - dallas
vertigo - detroit
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
digitalmonkey - montreal
serge - toronto
xeddiex - colorado (tentative)
mapleleafpoker - carolina
gruven - washington
strategy - minnesota
ajs510 - buffalo (tentative)
fubar the sperm - ottawa
7s7c - anaheim
XXEddie
Ok, so if your team loses in the playoffs do you have to wait till the Stanley Cup is decided, then have the Avatar/Title. Or once your team gets knocked out you have to have the Avatar/Title of the team that defeated yours, and if they are eliminated the team that defeats them, so forth till the Cup Champ is crowned
LongLiveYorke
I'll take the forum bet.

Rangers, obv.
runthemover
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 4:23 PM) *
Ok, so if your team loses in the playoffs do you have to wait till the Stanley Cup is decided, then have the Avatar/Title. Or once your team gets knocked out you have to have the Avatar/Title of the team that defeated yours, and if they are eliminated the team that defeats them, so forth till the Cup Champ is crowned

It's just the backer of the Stanley Cup Winner who decides your fate.


I think it's be cool to have it so that the length of time your avatar and forum title (everyone ok with this being avatar and forum title bet?) are decided for you is dependent on the ranking of the teams in the playoffs.

So, if a division winner gets the cup, everyone's avatar and title are changed for two weeks, 4-6 gets the cup and the duration is one month, and 7-8 means a two month duration. (Or, possibly same setup but 1-6, 7-12 and 13-16 by points overall)

Thoughts?



Updated participant list by division and conference.

West
Pacific
runthemover - san jose
pezeveng - dallas
7s7c - anaheim

Northwest
strategy - minnesota
xxeddie - colorado

Central
vertigo - detroit

East
Southeast
mapleleafpoker - carolina
gruven - washington

Northeast
troyomac - boston
ajs510 - buffalo
fubar the sperm - ottawa
digitalmonkey - montreal
serge - toronto

Atlantic
rinswun - new jersey
doox - pittsburgh
longliveyorke - new york R
ajs510
I like it, and I'm in for the Sabres. I'll happily die by their sword.
doox
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Wednesday, March 5th, 2008, 2:10 AM) *
I like it, and I'm in for the Sabres. I'll happily die by their sword.



I see what you did there.



I'm down for whatever, whether it's avatar, title, both, or sig.
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