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Fleur
Hi everyone,

I just saw a press release on the website of the Dutch Crime journalist Peter R de Vries. They claim to have solved the Natalee Holloway case! The programme airs sunday night in The Netherlands and Natalee's mom has come to Holland to be in it as well.
They refuse to say how or who did it, but they say they will tell us in the programme. Can't wait to see if it really was Joran!
Too bad for all you Americans who will have to wait until monday to hear about it biggrin.gif

Edit: website is http://www.peterrdevries.nl ( I believe there is an English translation as well)
jeff_536
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:43 AM) *
Hi everyone,

I just saw a press release on the website of the Dutch Crime journalist Peter R de Vries. They claim to have solved the Natalee Holloway case! The programme airs sunday night in The Netherlands and Natalee's mom has come to Holland to be in it as well.
They refuse to say how or who did it, but they say they will tell us in the programme. Can't wait to see if it really was Joran!
Too bad for all you Americans who will have to wait until monday to hear about it biggrin.gif


Who the hell is Natalee Holloway?

*edit* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway

Okay, found it.
Fleur
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 5:44 PM) *
Who the hell is Natalee Holloway?

*edit* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway

Okay, found it.


You must never watch T.V. or they didn't say anything about it in Canada.

Natalee Holloway was an American student who went on Holiday to Aruba. There she met a Dutch guy named Joran and after that was never heard from again. So everyone believes she was murdered, most believe by Joran (and/or his friends), but the DA can't prove it. So now it seems that Peter R de Vries has found conclusive evidence about the case. smile.gif

Edit: I'll leave this up in case other people don't know about it either
jeff_536
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:47 AM) *
You must never watch T.V. or they didn't say anything about it in Canada.

Natalee Holloway was an American student who went on Holiday to Aruba. There she met a Dutch guy named Joran and after that was never heard from again. So everyone believes she was murdered, most believe by Joran (and/or his friends), but the DA can't prove it. So now it seems that Peter R de Vries has found conclusive evidence about the case. smile.gif

Edit: I'll leave this up in case other people don't know about it either


Oh, we get all the american news...Just didn't place the name out of context, afterall the disapearance happened May 30, 2005
dms26
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:49 AM) *
Oh, we get all the american news...Just didn't place the name out of context, afterall the disapearance happened May 30, 2005



It was in the news again recently, Aruba re-arrested a few of the suspects but then released them again and said the case was closed. Seems like they've kinda butchered it so far.
Fleur
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 5:49 PM) *
Oh, we get all the american news...Just didn't place the name out of context, afterall the disapearance happened May 30, 2005


Understandable, it never left the news here though. Two weeks ago Joran threw a glass of wine into Peter de Vries' face in a tv programme, so after that, the whole thing kinda took off again here smile.gif
dolfan
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 9:58 AM) *
Understandable, it never left the news here though. Two weeks ago Joran threw a glass of wine into Peter de Vries' face in a tv programme, so after that, the whole thing kinda took off again here smile.gif


Always a good strategy to look innocent if you're the prime suspect in a murder investigation.
Fleur
QUOTE (dolfan @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 6:16 PM) *
Always a good strategy to look innocent if you're the prime suspect in a murder investigation.


Maybe he confused it with poker and tried to bluff wink.gif

I think there will be a lot of sleepy students at my faculty monday morning ( I study Criminology and the show airs until around 23.30 tongue.gif )
Jeepster80125
I'm sure the case has been broken wide open by some random journalist, and they're just waiting to give details.

That, or some douchebag is trying to make a name for themselves.
Fleur
QUOTE (Jeepster80125 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 7:20 PM) *
I'm sure the case has been broken wide open by some random journalist, and they're just waiting to give details.

That, or some douchebag is trying to make a name for themselves.


He solved it, I'm 100% sure. Peter de Vries has solved a large amount of murdercases over the years and he would never say he solved it if he hadn't. I'll post the details here sunday as soon as I've watched it smile.gif
ShakeZuma
I tell you what though, if Joran Vanderslooooot didn't do it, I have to feel a little bad for the kid.
brvheart
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 10:47 AM) *
You must never watch T.V. or they didn't say anything about it in Canada.

Natalee Holloway was an American student who went on vacation to Aruba. There she met a Dutch guy named Joran and after that was never heard from again. So everyone believes she was murdered, most believe by Joran (and/or his friends), but the DA can't prove it. So now it seems that Peter R de Vries has found conclusive evidence about the case. smile.gif

Edit: I'll leave this up in case other people don't know about it either



FYP


Also, you use too many smilies... but welcome to the forum.
Ouch-8s
good god, has anyone informed Nancy Grace?
Fleur
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 7:28 PM) *
FYP
Also, you use too many smilies... but welcome to the forum.


I don't know what FYP stands for, but thanks for the welcome. Get used to the smilies, I'm a smilie kinda person
speedz99
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 10:31 AM) *
I don't know what FYP stands for, but thanks for the welcome. Get used to the smilies, I'm a smilie kinda person


Smilie, really? From your picture I would have guessed 'smarmy'.
Fleur
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 7:35 PM) *
Smilie, really? From your picture I would have guessed 'smarmy'.


What's 'smarmy'?






hate it when people try to insult me with words I don't know the meaning of
Balloon guy
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 10:37 AM) *
What's 'smarmy'?
hate it when people try to insult me with words I don't know the meaning of



Don't worry, neither do they wink.gif
jeff_536
smarmy

adjective
unpleasantly and excessively suave or ingratiating in manner or speech;


dictionary.com is our friend.
Fleur
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:00 PM) *
smarmy

adjective
unpleasantly and excessively suave or ingratiating in manner or speech;
dictionary.com is our friend.


God, I feel stupid now but uhm...

What's suave and ingratiating?
speedz99
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:10 AM) *
God, I feel stupid now but uhm...

What's suave and ingratiating?


Just think of every french guy you've ever met. Average all of their personalities together and there you go.
speedz99
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 10:42 AM) *
Don't worry, neither do they wink.gif


It's a 12th grade word...some of us made it that far.

Hiyooooooo!!!
jeff_536
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 2:10 PM) *
God, I feel stupid now but uhm...

What's suave and ingratiating?


perhaps you missed the line where I said: dictionary.com is our friend.
Fleur
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:18 PM) *
Just think of every french guy you've ever met. Average all of their personalities together and there you go.


iiiieeelll

And he says that's how I look? Pffff
Fleur
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:20 PM) *
It's a 12th grade word...some of us made it that far.

Hiyooooooo!!!


Some of us are also Dutch and English isn't their native language, thank you very much
jeff_536
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 2:21 PM) *
Some of us are also Dutch and English isn't their native language, thank you very much


Don't be sensitive. He was giving Balloon Guy a hard time, not you.
speedz99
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:21 AM) *
iiiieeelll

And he says that's how I look? Pffff


I know...what a jerk that guy is.

QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:21 AM) *
Some of us are also Dutch and English isn't their native language, thank you very much


Like Jeff said, I was just making some fanoodle with Balloon Guy. Your English is actually pretty impressive.
Balloon guy
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:20 AM) *
It's a 12th grade word...some of us made it that far.

Hiyooooooo!!!



Oh yea?


Okay you actually got me on that part.


But I'm not happy about it angry.gif
Ouch-8s
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:26 AM) *
I know...what a jerk that guy is.

QFT. Maybe you should refer to her as a useless clump of cells, you heartless bastard.
hblask
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 1:20 PM) *
It's a 12th grade word...some of us made it that far.

Hiyooooooo!!!


Somebody better be getting some rice for this.
Fleur
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:26 PM) *
I know...what a jerk that guy is.
Like Jeff said, I was just making some fanoodle with Balloon Guy. Your English is actually pretty impressive.


You're forgiven dear But it's not quite fair to other Dutchies, I work for an American company and I have to speak English all the time so I got a bit of an advantage over other Dutch-people wink.gif
Balloon guy
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:34 AM) *
You're forgiven dear But it's not quite fair to other Dutchies, I work for an American company and I have to speak English all the time so I got a bit of an advantage over other Dutch-people wink.gif



US too.
Fleur
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:38 PM) *
US too.


You'll probably know the company too. Work for Adobe
speedz99
QUOTE (hblask @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:34 AM) *
Somebody better be getting some rice for this.


Callback!
jeff_536
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 2:40 PM) *
You'll probably know the company too. Work for Adobe


I use your CSII for work...newspapers...
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 2:40 PM) *
You'll probably know the company too. Work for Adobe

whoa. I'm looking at an adobe document RIGHT NOW.


freaky.



and don't mind speedz. his technique with women involves a steady stream of degradation and humiliation until they develop an eating disorder. only then is he really happy.
Balloon guy
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:40 AM) *
You'll probably know the company too. Work for Adobe



Isn't that the cutting edge graphics program that handles multi-level rastering and deep level rendering graphics capabilties?

Yea, I can see why the smilies are big with you guys. rolleyes.gif
El Guapo
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:38 AM) *
US too.



I like what you did there. A lot.
Fleur
QUOTE (jeff_536 @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:42 PM) *
I use your CSII for work...newspapers...


Long live Indesign
El Guapo
Say fleur outloud. Its a strange word, kind of fun to say, but after a couple times you feel like you have downsydrome and recently suffered a stroke and lost feeling in the right side of your face. Oh and drunk.
speedz99
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:44 AM) *
and don't mind speedz. his technique with women involves a steady stream of degradation and humiliation until they develop an eating disorder. only then is he really happy.


If it ain't broke...
Balloon guy
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:49 AM) *
Say fleur outloud. Its a strange word, kind of fun to say, but after a couple times you feel like you have downsydrome and recently suffered a stroke and lost feeling in the right side of your face. Oh and drunk.



I have to add '-de-lis' when I say it.

I'm an artisit
Fleur
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:49 PM) *
Say fleur outloud. Its a strange word, kind of fun to say, but after a couple times you feel like you have downsydrome and recently suffered a stroke and lost feeling in the right side of your face. Oh and drunk.


It's French, means flower. And you're right, when English speaking people try to pronounce it, it usually sounds pretty dumb.

edit: but 9 times out of 10, the reason it's sounds dumb has nothing to do with the name...
speedz99
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:51 AM) *
I have to add '-de-lis' when I say it.

I'm an artisit


I have to add 'Delacour' when I say it.

I'm a dork.
Fleur
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:51 PM) *
I have to add '-de-lis' when I say it.

I'm an artisit


I want to get me a tattoo of a Fleur-de-lis actually. Just too scared I might regret it later so haven't done it yet. I stick to my piercings for now.
hblask
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 1:52 PM) *
I want to get me a tattoo of a Fleur-de-lis actually. Just too scared I might regret it later so haven't done it yet. I stick to my piercings for now.


I've always wanted to meet a woman with a computer keyboard tattooed across her back so that I could pretend I'm surfing the internet while I do her from behind.
Fleur
QUOTE (hblask @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 8:56 PM) *
I've always wanted to meet a woman with a computer keyboard tattooed across her back so that I could pretend I'm surfing the internet while I do her from behind.


You need professional help my dear friend
El Guapo
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:58 AM) *
You need professional help my dear friend


You have no idea.
speedz99
QUOTE (hblask @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:56 AM) *
I've always wanted to meet a woman with a computer keyboard tattooed across her back so that I could pretend I'm surfing the internet while I do her from behind.


Me too. But I'd want her tatoo to be of a picture of grainy amateur porn.
Ouch-8s
QUOTE (Fleur @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 11:58 AM) *
You need professional help my dear friend

no, he needs a woman with a keyboard tattoed on her back - didn't you read his post?
JoeyJoJo
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Thursday, January 31st, 2008, 2:51 PM) *
I have to add '-de-lis' when I say it.

I'm an artisit

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