Good job on rocking the shit, Mex.

I get annoyed by pretty much everything you mentioned, too. I work on the second floor of my building and refuse to ever use the elevator. It's not a huge deal, but the fact that I go up and down probably 6 flights of stairs each day has to be better than using the elevator.

The biggest thing that will always annoy me at gyms is the people who you can track for like 45 minutes and they spend 30 of it either talking to other people or getting a drink.

THE GYM IS NOT A NIGHTCLUB WHERE YOU GO TO TRY TO GET LAID. THE GYM IS WHERE YOU GO SO YOU CAN GO TO ACTUAL NIGHTCLUBS AND TRY TO GET LAID.

I disagree especially if you are dating a girl who works at the gym, and then have sex in the gym and sauna when the gym closes.

Not that I would know anything about such things, or would I know that sex in a sauna, as a hot tub is highly overrated because you end up burning your ass.

I stand corrected and slightly intrigued about sauna sex.

Well you would think it would be hot and steamy like in a movie or something, but its not. It's too hot. You sit on the wood bunch too long your ass and balls burn....so I've heard at least.

Sit on a towel dumbo.

The idea of burning my balls on the bench makes me feel much less jealous that I've never had sauna sex.

HEAT of the moment asshole! It's not very sexy to pause to grab a towel.

Or birth control for that matter.

Oh no doubt. Guy today, high school kid probably, walking around with his girlfriend, holding hands between sets and machines, she wasn't even working out.

Also, people that grab dumbbells off the rack, take half a step back, and stand in the way and do their set, so nobody else can get a set of dumbbells anywhere near there.

30 faced paced minutes on the bike, 150 crunches, 9 sets of shoulders. Weeeee

Hey Sal, I've asked you this before but I forgot the website. What protein powder did you recommend to use and off of what site? I've been using GNC 100% Whey Protein Powder in chocolate flavor. I like the taste but it seems a little pricey.

What are your guy's opinions on creatine? I've done some research online and it seems like it's safe. Is it actually beneficial? I'm 5'11" 160 pounds and lift at least every other day. I've basically hit a wall. I've been stuck on repping 190 on bench for the past three weeks. Any suggestions on how to get over the hump?

well first off, anything from GNC is gonna be expensive. they're the most expensive place to buy supplements. second, I probably would have recommended Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey which is good stuff and reasonably priced. go for the extreme milk chocolate, the other chocolate flavor sucks. they do have some new stuff out though (from optimum nutrition as well) that I think I'm gonna get next. one is called Pro Complex, which looks like a souped up version of the 100% whey (and it's expensive too), and this stuff called Nitro Core from Optimum, which is like an all around, anytime protein. that may be your best bet, but I've never tried it, so I can't really recommend it.


I used creatine for a few months a while back. didn't really notice any gains other than water gain. I've heard that it works differently for different people though, so you might wanna give it a shot. I have heard, though, that the effects are similar to steroids in that you kinda lose the gains after you stop using it. not sure if that's true or not though.

http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-St...d/dp/B000QSNYGI
Is this the one you're talking about? It's the same price as the GNC protein but it have 4 more grams of protein than GNC.

yep, that's it, and I forgot to give you the websites.

the best information is at bodybuilding.com, http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/index.html but the prices are typically cheaper at fitnessone.com http://www.fitnessone.com/index.php so just check both. make sure to fill your cart in both places and check the shipping too though, cause I seem to remember fitnessone's shipping costing a little bit more. might negate the savings.

I know no one listens to me but, you gain muscle during the rest period. You will see alot more gain with intense shorter workouts done to failure. Your weight routine should be something like, Mon-upper body Wed-Lower body Fri- Upper body and switch tthe following week. Do cardio in between.

Muscle comes from tearing the micro-tendons in your muscle and then letting it rest. Overdoing weight training will negate this.

This is basically the same for cardio. Running for 1 or 2 hours will just wear you down and prohibit gains. 20 to 30 minutes of intense intervals 3 times a week is more than enough for anyone.

Someone just mentioned stretching and warming up before workouts. You really don't have to do this. Just start out cardio slow and weights at a low weight to warm up and increase as you exercise.

Coming from somebody who knows jackshit about supplements and hasn't bought any for a few years, this website always had good prices. Also, they ship stuff hella-fast. I would get orders the next day. But I live like an hour away from where they're located so that's likely a luxury only I am cool enough to have.

this reminds me, the last time I ordered from bodybuilding.com, I placed the order at like 8 or 9 oclock at night. it was for like 150 bucks worth of stuff too, probably 7 different things. I came home the next day, and the order was on my porch. I have absolutely no idea how they did this. the label said "ground" on it too. I mean, I ship stuff for a living. in order for it to have gotten to me next day by shipping ground, the warehouse would have had to have been on the east coast and no further south than SC or north than PA, all in the eastern time zone, which would have been well past the shipping cut off for UPS. basically, this is a long winded way of me saying that bodybuilding.com ships via witchcraft, and they are super, super quick.

I do my best to try to keep rest between sets to 30- 40 seconds. I don't know which of the three is best for building muscle, but I always am the most tired when I focus on rest time. I don't think one would be very helpful. I've always heard that you're supposed to do a two count lift then a 4 count back down.

Maybe you girls should do some more compound exercises and less isolation on certain days

I think one of the biggest factors that people miss is getting stuck in doing the same routine week in and week out. I would suggest that you always keep your muscles off balance, don't get stuck into a routine of always doing the same excercises and the same weights. Do different machines and cross train to hit your target muscles, and a good warm up will help to avoid injury and increased vascularization to the muscles will increase performance pretty drastically.

Was talking to my housemate and he raved about No Xplode, said he moved from benching 95-105kg in a month using it. Another mate also said he got great results using it

this is very, very true, and probably one of my biggest problems with lifting. I always get stuck in one routine, over and over again, mainly because I only work out at home so I have limited resources to change it up. that's the reason I decided to do this new cross training type thing. had to switch it up somehow.


yeah it's basically creatine with speed. I used it for quite a while and it really does give you a better work out. be careful though, I could only take like half of the smallest serving or I'd get sick, and I drink coffee every morning. shit's powerful. also, make sure you wait at least 20 to 30 minutes before working out after you drink it. it takes a while for it to kick in and settle down. some of the best workouts I've ever had have been on days I've had off and been able to drink the stuff, wait an hour, then work out. MASSIVE PUMPS BRO.

I was tired and fat from Super Bowl Sunday and just an overall lazy/overindulgent weekend so I was pretty sure at about 4:30pm I wasn't going to be making it to the gym. I did, though, so I pretty much rule. Also, there was a girl on a bike in front of me that would stand up and crank pretty hard every few minutes, so it must have been fate.

Took a month off over the holidays because I got sick and I wanted to party. Pretty much put all the weight that i had taken off over the last three months right back on. So i started back up in the middle of January. Of course I hurt my shoulder a little bit overexerting on pushups that I was doing regularly. So now I have been resting on weight lifting and sticking to cardio. Usually about 20 minutes on the bike, then I do some ab work for 10 - 15 minutes, then I do the stairmaster for another ten minutes and call it a day. My shoulder is almost back to normal and then I can start to add the weight training again.

Started the year at 220. Since I started back up I am down to 216. Goal is to hit 200 by summer.

That's a pretty realistic goal so you should have no problem. Keep at it.

I don't know, somehow I always plateau around 210. I haven't been under 210 in about 5 years. granted, all that time all I ever did was to try and diet and I was drinking and partying most of that time. So maybe this time will be different. I have changed my drinking habits and only drink on Fridays and Saturdays and special occasions. I have started to actually watch what I eat so that is a good thing. Yeah, maybe I will be able to finally get it back to 200.

I had a good upper body work out today. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should add or remove from what I've been doing lately?

Dumbbell bench press 4x10
Dumbbell incline press 3x8
Fly machine 4x10
skull crushers 4x10
The machine with the two cables, I cross my arms then pull them away from my body 4x10
Curved barbell standing lift up to my breast line. 4x10
Barbell military press 3x8
dumbell curls 4x10
Dumbell curls, drop weight 3x10
pullups 3x10

I should probably add a forearm exercise.

If you can cut that down even a bit, it will help a lot. I'm not very strict at all when it comes to dieting and drinking, but even just limiting the crappy food and booze to a few times a week makes a big difference. 16 more pounds by summer is very doable, you just have to cut back a little. Good luck.





My legs are pretty sore today. This month is definitely going to be harder on me, but I think by the end of it I'll be pretty pleased with the progress I make. Going again tonight, and tomorrow will be a rest day.

Also, I'm going back through that push up program. If nothing else, it keeps me doing push ups three days a week and I can crank out 100 each session with little trouble now.

Page 3 and no responses for over a week? What, is the "Fatty" thread the new "gym" thread?

Suck it up, Nancy's.

Ran Monday, off Tuesday, ran last night, going again tonight.

yeah everybody always likes the new flashy version even though its the same old pile of crap they've been using all along. I don't even know what that means.

I've been sticking with my plan pretty handily, and I guess it's working, although I still feel like a giant fat ass most of the time. weight lifting monday/wednesday/friday mornings, then that cross training/high school gym routine I talked about on monday/wednesday/friday evenings. tuesday/thursday mornings I ride the stationary bike 30 minutes and tuesday/thursday evening I've been running (up to a mile and a half so far. seeing if my legs and knees can take much more.) I don't know, we'll see.

I've been lazy and have bursitis in my eblow (another hockey injury).

In case you're wondering what it looks like, here's a picture I found on the interwebs:

wow! you have a tit on your elbow? awesome!

I got that one time in both elbows and had no fucking clue what was happening. I thought my arms were going to explode.

Pretty much.

I got it a lot worse in HS from hockey and it was SICK. This time, not as bad...but a bone bruise to go with it. It's not fun, I can tell you that.

The first time I got it in HS, I thought the same thing.

Of course, I've never gotten it drained like I'm supposed to.

Mine weren't drained, either. The doctor gave me some medicine to help with the swelling and some bandages to keep them wrapped until they went back to normal. I had Popeye arms for a while.

I don't go to doctors.



I'm probably going to die soon.

You know, syphilis is curable now

I made an exception due to the whole thinking my arms were going to explode thing.

I just got done doing the routine I posted earlier. My arms are shaky, I can't touch my shoulder, and I feel good. I just tried the Gold Standard 100% Whey Protein in the extreme milk chocolate flavor that Sal suggested. It's pretty good stuff. It tastes better than the GNC stuff I had before and has a few more grams of protein. Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm still kind of stuck at 195 on bench. I run for 45-60 min on my off days so maybe that's to much and doesn't let my muscles recover and build?

I don't believe it.

ok, I'll post the full info later (I'll be writing a letter to them), but for right now I just want to say buy your supplements from Bodybuilding.com. bar none the best company I've ever bought anything from, either online or in person. simply amazing.

Complimentary (name of steroid I don't know) with each purchase of $100 or more?



I made it today to get five days per week for the past two weeks. It gets a lot easier to keep going once you get on a roll.

I'm starting to sense a theme here. It's not even March, people. We can't have all abandoned our new year's resolutions yet.

Felt good tonight. 3.0 miles in 22:21. I probably wasn't able to do that until April last year, so, sweet. That's twice this week, if all goes as planned I'll be going again tomorrow, Friday, and Saturday. I'm going out of town this weekend and plan to put it off until after I run on Saturday, but come Friday at 5 pm there's no telling how motivated I'll actually be to stay in town.

I was actually thinking about posting the same thing after my run last night how this thread really dies after about the middle of february, but I was too tired from running. I've made it to a mile and a half so far before my shins feel like they're about to separate, and I was only running a mile last year, so thats good. I've also been busting ass with that gym class cardio routine I talked about a while back. had to stop short this evening cause I was going so hard I almost threw up. score.


still, my biggest problem is eating. I get so god damn hungry that I have to eat. it's ridiculous.

We should trade diets, I pretty much have to eat frequently even when I'm not hungry and put down between 3 and 4k calories a day. It's a rough life.

Awwww do they??



WUSSY!!!!!

I've been working out everyday still. There's really not much to say unless you guys really want to know when I moveup in weight. I suppose we could start posting pics from our cellphones of girls we see while working out. I see this thread taking off.

I don't eat super well, but I've accepted the fact that I'm never going to have a perfect diet so I'm ok with it. I'd say I get between 1,500 and 2,000 calories on a "normal" day and much more than that when I eat shitty food and drink.





Not a bad idea. But people posting any sort of progress will at least let others know that some people aren't complete lazy SOB's and are still at it.

you can just go straight to hell. I eat a fucking candy bar and I instantly turn into ron mexico. (overweight, not stupid)


YOU SHUT YOUR GOD DAMN MOUTH. (yes, my body sucks.)


I missed my bike ridding this morning because I was ridiculously freaking tired when I woke up, so I decided to just try to run an extra few laps tonight to see how far I could actually go. pretty bullshit excuse, but for some reason I've been having a tough time sticking to anything this week, good diet and workouts. not really sure why.

Shoulder is still kinda messed up so I have still been doing the bike and stairmaster for workouts. The shoulder feels about 80% so I am hoping to be able to get back into the weight lifting at the beginning of March. Last night I did 20 Minutes on the bike and then another 10 minutes on the stairmaster. Followed that up with 10 minutes of Ab work and then stretched for 10 minutes to complete the workout. That has been the basics of what I am doing.

On a side note. Anyone hear of Paul Chek. I think I posted it in another thread, but I just ordered his book after borrowing my friends copy and I think it is on of the best books out there on Nutrition and core exercising. The Book is called "How to Eat, Move, and Be Healthy". I think everyone should have a copy of this book that is serious about eating right.

Going to do some Hiking this weekend in Anza Borrego so that should be good as well. Hoping to get in about 15 or so miles with a 20 pound backpack. We are only going for one night so I could pack pretty light. This is more of a testing equipment hike. In another couple of weeks we are going for a two night hike and are going to try to get in about 30 miles or so. This is actually why I have been on the stairmaster more of late. I need to get my self ready for this. The hike that we are working towards goes up 3100 feet in a five mile stretch, so that should be awesome!



Also, I saw one of the hottest chicks the other night. I love that aspect of the gym. Although they probably look at me and think "Man that guy really needs to work out more!" Oh well. Eye Candy FTW

That hike sounds awesome. I don't do that nearly enough and there's plenty of good hiking near me.



3.3 miles in 25 minutes tonight. Feeling good this week.