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avsfan
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 8:59 AM) *
Great and thanks. Okay cardio question. I have really only run on the treadmill and do the 20 minute HIIT and as I said it is slowly getting better and better adding more speed and incline. For endurance I have pretty much been using the bicycle and long rides on weekends. To do the triathlon or a duathlon I need to be able to run 5K or 5 miles, (whatever) so I want to see if I can on the treadmill first (I guess) or should I just take a run in the morning. I did a steady run this morning but I was short on time at 5 mph for 20 minutes and I think I ended at 1.7 miles. I could have easily done alot more but how much is virgin territory so to speak. So, tips on doing this, or training or anything special I should know or look to do for a 5K?


I am not a well of knowledge when it comes to running. My mother was a a proffesional runner and I would usually get my running info from her. Unfortunately she passed away a year ago. I did recently stumble on to this iphone app that is geared towards getting ppl up to 5k performance levels. It is called "Couch to 5k", here is the app; http://www.felttip.com/c25k/

QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 8:59 AM) *
Also, it is mentioned alot that muscle weighs more than fat which technically isn't true. 1 lb of fat and l lb of muscle weight the same. Muscle weighs more (per volume).


You sir are correct! That is what i meant to say. Keepin me on my toes there, wink.gif. technically a pound is a pound, Duh........avs dumb is.

QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 8:59 AM) *
And avs I know I take weight of equally around the body but what I was going for is muscle increase in the chest area, specifically on the sides near the armpit by doing the cable flys or dumbell flys. Am I just wrong here, lol? I have been doing the dumbell press and recently added weight and still doing the 3x15's with possibly adding more sooner than I thought. I also am considering trying them on the Swiss ball instead of the bench, thoughts? I don't have a bench to do the regular chest press. (or a spotter or anything).



for must of my workout life I subscribed to the idea that you could stimulate different areas of a muscle from different angles. I would always do equal parts incline, flat, decline presses and flys. I have become a convert the idea that muscles get worked/stimulated and they respond in accordance to there genetic predisposition. So basically i pick the best exercise/s for that muscle and expect the muscle to respond in accordance with its genetic potential. the best exercises for chest are flat dumbbell presses, dips, and flat bench press. What i like to do is do dips for my.....uh triceps...and then i know i am doing the equivalent of a upper body squat and am doubling up on my chest shoulders and nailing my triceps. I don't think you have the equipment to do dips. You can find dip bar sets on ebay for around 125 dollars though. So, Randy that is my thoughts......in essence i would like to see you add dips for triceps which will hit your chest shoulders and triceps in a upper body squat like exercise....this will stimulate your upper body like nothing else......if you do this and make the investment in dip bars expect a grueling exercise and awesome gains.

Randy their are some very inexpensive flat benches out there. Having said that let me say it is ok to do dumbbell chest presses on a swiss balll, just watch the upperward bounce. The great thing about dumbbells is you can't get trapped under them, simply drop them to the floor if you can not finish your rep, awesome huh? I swear the dumbbells will be fine when dropped, they are dumb.

QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 8:59 AM) *
And I guess I should finally get more serious about the diet. Is there a good site to look or count calories to help get a grip on it. I pretty much know the food and what I like and do a decent job of planning meals but with my schedule I get home later in the evening and tend to just eat the wrong thing or to much. If I eat something good I'll likey then grab some ice cream or something. I really have no idea how many calories a day I take in.


Sounds like TRBO5 can be a great help here. I usually point ppl to "The Warrior Diet" here; http://www.warriordiet.com/ or Precision Nutrition; http://www.precisionnutrition.com/ (you can sign up for free)
avsfan
and when you can do 3 sets for 15 reps for christ sake Randy add weight!

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avsfan
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 9:49 AM) *
Okay, so let's take what I will be doing tonight as an example. Tonight is Back / Chest

I warmup with 3 sets of Russian Twist

I go and do 3 sets of Max pullups (I usally get 7, then 5, then 4) alternating with Pushups (Usually rep out 3 x 15)

Next I do Bent over rows (3 x 12 with 25lb dumbbell) mixed in with one arm dumbbell press (3 x 12 with 25lbs)

I added in not sure what it is formally called but you lay down on a bench and hold a dumbbell over head with both hands and take it back over your head keeping your arms straight, this is a lat exercise (3 x 12 25lb) mixed with bench press (1 x 12 95, 1 x 10 115, 1 x 8 135)

One set of Janda situps x 35

Stretching

So when you say up the intensity do you mean that I should add weight to this when I can easily do 15 reps with a certain weight and drop down in weight when I can't get to 12? I guess I should start keeping a workout journal and mark down the weights and progress that I am doing each time? I have been just keeping it in my head.


It is called a dumbbell pullover. It is one of my favorite exercises. It works the chest serratus and back.


I would like to see you do your bench press with the same reps and sets as other exercises.

this is more than enough volume.

Please post your other workout days so i can make sure you are doing everything with balanced volume.

Yes, I mean you should add weight when you can do 3 sets for the max of you chosen rep range. you should decrease your weight if you can not hit the low end of your rep range.


it is extremely importants to keep a workout journal. If you have a iphone i would highly recomend bodybook here; http://iphoneapplicationlist.com/2009/01/19/bodybook/
avsfan
It is very important to do equal sets and reps for the different body parts, that will equal a symmetrical physique.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 5:52 PM) *
www.fitday.com

You can track your daily caloric intake as well as your activities, set goals, etc. with fitday.com. It's not always exactly accurate but gives a basic idea of how many calories you burn vs. intake. If you want to get real strict, you can input your own foods to keep exact track. I've been using it for a couple of years now so if you have any questions I may be able to help just post them here.


Thanks, that should help. If I have questions I'll get back with you. I also was reading that for my age 48/height 5'8" I should be getting
2200 to 2300 calories a day. Does that sound about right?

QUOTE (avsfan @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 1:59 AM) *
and when you can do 3 sets for 15 reps for christ sake Randy add weight!


Okay, I battle with adding weight and form. I will try to up the weight and move down to 12 reps on the exercises and work my way up. I think that is what you are suggesting and makes sense.

Also, isn't there dips that I can do off of a bench or something? I'm kinda blanking but it seems I read something. Hmm, off to look at dips. Not you SAL!

I also got the bosu thing last night but haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I have been crunched for time so it might not be until this weekend when I can give it a whirl.

dapokerbum
QUOTE (avsfan @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 4:03 AM) *
It is called a dumbbell pullover. It is one of my favorite exercises. It works the chest serratus and back.


I would like to see you do your bench press with the same reps and sets as other exercises.

this is more than enough volume.

Please post your other workout days so i can make sure you are doing everything with balanced volume.

Yes, I mean you should add weight when you can do 3 sets for the max of you chosen rep range. you should decrease your weight if you can not hit the low end of your rep range.


it is extremely importants to keep a workout journal. If you have a iphone i would highly recomend bodybook here; http://iphoneapplicationlist.com/2009/01/19/bodybook/


I don't have an iphone angry.gif but I am getting a blackberry from work soon! I will take your advice and keep the same weights and just rep out the bench.

Other workouts:

Leg Day

Ride bike to warm up for 5 minutes

Squats 3x12 at 135 intermingled with Deadlifts 3x12 at 135
Lunges as RR described but with 15lb overhead 3x20 alternate arm after 10
Hamstring Curls (is that what they're called) 3x12
Calves 3x15 at 100 (standing Calf Machine)
2x30 Janda Situps

Shoulder / Arms

3 sets of Russin Twist to warm up

Military Press (3 x 12 x 95) mixed with 2 way flys (3 x 12 x 10lbs)

Dumbbell Curls (3 x 12 x 25) mixed with One arm dumbbell skullcrushers, not sure if this is the proper name for the exercise, (3 x 12 x 25)

Overhead Tri Extensions with rope on machine (3 x 12 x 70) mixed with either (1) underhand pullups (3 x 12) or (2) curls with the flat bar on machine (3 x 12 x 70)

1 set of Janda situps x 35

Stretching.
El Guapo
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Tuesday, August 18th, 2009, 6:52 PM) *
www.fitday.com

You can track your daily caloric intake as well as your activities, set goals, etc. with fitday.com. It's not always exactly accurate but gives a basic idea of how many calories you burn vs. intake. If you want to get real strict, you can input your own foods to keep exact track. I've been using it for a couple of years now so if you have any questions I may be able to help just post them here.


I have used this, and its a great site, but it sure is a bitch to keep up with.
socalpoker_j
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 8:49 AM) *
Thanks, that should help. If I have questions I'll get back with you. I also was reading that for my age 48/height 5'8" I should be getting
2200 to 2300 calories a day. Does that sound about right?



Okay, I battle with adding weight and form. I will try to up the weight and move down to 12 reps on the exercises and work my way up. I think that is what you are suggesting and makes sense.

Also, isn't there dips that I can do off of a bench or something? I'm kinda blanking but it seems I read something. Hmm, off to look at dips. Not you SAL!

I also got the bosu thing last night but haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I have been crunched for time so it might not be until this weekend when I can give it a whirl.


Randy,

For dips: http://www.nku.edu/~issues/weightlifting/MVC-048S.JPG

You can also put some weighted plates on your lap when it becomes too easy. Have you tried doing planks for an ab exercise?
TRB05
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 10:49 AM) *
Thanks, that should help. If I have questions I'll get back with you. I also was reading that for my age 48/height 5'8" I should be getting
2200 to 2300 calories a day. Does that sound about right?


To lose weight you should eat around 2100, to maintain eat around 2600, and to gain muscle eat around 3100. This all comes from this website.

socalpoker_j
I'm still not sold on the 40 minute thing, although most of my workouts take between 40-50 mins.

I found an old bench press form check vid as well as some squat, oh press, and random stuff. Depending on how much people make fun of me and hurt my feelings, I'll post more after weeping (Not really these things take forever to upload). Also, not a brag post. If I wanted to do that I would post vids of me running the 400 in 49 flat in corduroys and squatting 600lbs in flip flops.

http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp303/l...current=003.flv
avsfan
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avsfan
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 8:49 AM) *
Also, isn't there dips that I can do off of a bench or something? I'm kinda blanking but it seems I read something. Hmm, off to look at dips. Not you SAL!



here is another example of a tricep dip with some typical mistakes pointed out; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx9gVDCnT84
avsfan
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 9:09 AM) *
I don't have an iphone angry.gif but I am getting a blackberry from work soon! I will take your advice and keep the same weights and just rep out the bench.


here is a traditional journal; http://www.amazon.com/dp/0963796844/ref%3D...6linkCode%3Dasn


QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 9:09 AM) *
I don't have an iphone angry.gif but I am getting a blackberry from work soon! I will take your advice and keep the same weights and just rep out the bench.

Other workouts:

Leg Day

Ride bike to warm up for 5 minutes

Squats 3x12 at 135 intermingled with Deadlifts 3x12 at 135
Lunges as RR described but with 15lb overhead 3x20 alternate arm after 10
Hamstring Curls (is that what they're called) 3x12
Calves 3x15 at 100 (standing Calf Machine)
2x30 Janda Situps



you could extend your warm up cardio to 12-15minutes.

You can workout your abs and forearms and calves more frequently than the other body parts but working abs everyday is too much. take a day off in between ab workouts. so, rest your abs this day.

the volume is balanced here.

QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 9:09 AM) *
Shoulder / Arms

3 sets of Russin Twist to warm up

Military Press (3 x 12 x 95) mixed with 2 way flys (3 x 12 x 10lbs)

Dumbbell Curls (3 x 12 x 25) mixed with One arm dumbbell skullcrushers, not sure if this is the proper name for the exercise, (3 x 12 x 25)

Overhead Tri Extensions with rope on machine (3 x 12 x 70) mixed with either (1) underhand pullups (3 x 12) or (2) curls with the flat bar on machine (3 x 12 x 70)

1 set of Janda situps x 35

Stretching.


new shoulder/arms routine suggestion;

3x 12-15 miltary or dumbbell press
3x 12-15 upright rows with dumbbells or barbells; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa7IHCWaCxQ
3x 12-15 lying rear dumbbell flys ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLUQLteadcQ

you can alternate the overhead pressing movements and the upright rows (they are push and pull) and then finish up with the lying rear flys.

3x 12-15 dummbell curls alternating with 3x 1-15 dips

(i am cuting back on your arm work you use your bi's and tri's in many other movements, this is enough work.

janda sit-ups

stretching
avsfan
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 2:05 AM) *
. Depending on how much people make fun of me and hurt my feelings,


Oh don't be's sillies. smile.gif
Randy Reed
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 8:45 AM) *
Randy,

For dips: http://www.nku.edu/~issues/weightlifting/MVC-048S.JPG

You can also put some weighted plates on your lap when it becomes too easy. Have you tried doing planks for an ab exercise?


Thanks and yes i'm doing planks with the Janda sit-ups and also the hyper extension bench for abs and lower back.

QUOTE (TRB05 @ Wednesday, August 19th, 2009, 5:45 PM) *
To lose weight you should eat around 2100, to maintain eat around 2600, and to gain muscle eat around 3100. This all comes from this website.


Thanks, pretty cool. Now I have to learn about calories more which even with fitday I don' get completely. If I get a 6 inch tuna sub with double tuna on
whole grain, lettuce, onion and some jalapenos (Subway) how the hell do I fugure that out? Or do I just guess? I guess I can use it to get a rough idea and
I just don't see myself getting a scale and weighing everything.

QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 1:05 AM) *
I'm still not sold on the 40 minute thing, although most of my workouts take between 40-50 mins.

I found an old bench press form check vid as well as some squat, oh press, and random stuff. Depending on how much people make fun of me and hurt my feelings, I'll post more after weeping (Not really these things take forever to upload). Also, not a brag post. If I wanted to do that I would post vids of me running the 400 in 49 flat in corduroys and squatting 600lbs in flip flops.

http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp303/l...current=003.flv


More vids if you got them and they didn't take long to load or anything.

I vary on workout time but when I have the time is usually around 50 to an hour. When pushed I squeeze it into 25 minutes.


QUOTE (avsfan @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 1:56 AM) *
here is another example of a tricep dip with some typical mistakes pointed out; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx9gVDCnT84


Thanks, once I saw socal's pic I knew that was what I was thinking and the vid is great at me not messing up form. But let me ask this, if I am doing
tricep exercises, cable extension bar or rope does the dips do something more than work the tricep?

And finally, I got up early to start the 5K quest. After a 2 minute warmup I ran at 5mph for 50 minutes with only a few scattered breaks (slowed down) to drink water. I ran slightly over 3.5 miles. I felt like I could do more and ran a sprint at the end 6mph for 2 minutes and ran out of time. Since this was new territory I didn't want to overdo it but was pretty happy with the results and will try to improve a little next time.
Randy Reed
Duh, after writing that i realized that my goal of 5 miles is alot longer than 5K. Checking out a conversion chart it's a little under
3.2 miles which I more than did this morning. I guess I will just work on doing that and increasing the speed and doing it outdoors
now that it's now so hot in the morning to give it a real live test, lol.

TRB05
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 10:27 AM) *
Thanks, pretty cool. Now I have to learn about calories more which even with fitday I don' get completely. If I get a 6 inch tuna sub with double tuna on
whole grain, lettuce, onion and some jalapenos (Subway) how the hell do I fugure that out? Or do I just guess? I guess I can use it to get a rough idea and
I just don't see myself getting a scale and weighing everything.


Eating out makes it a little tricky, but most places have nutritional info on their website. If not, usually fitday has something comparable and you can just estimate.

Subway's tuna sub looks like this from their website (not including the extra tuna, and the veggies are pretty much free anyway maybe ~40-50 calories)

6" Tuna 530 calories
30.0 g fat
6.0 sat
45mg cholesterol
930mg sodium
46g carbs
5g fiber
21g protein
10% vit A
30% vit C
10% calcium
20% iron

And then from Fitday, I searched for "tuna sub" and came up with the following:

Calories 583.7
Fat 28.0g
Cholesterol 48.6mg
Sodium 1,292.8mg
Carbohydrate 55.4g
Dietary Fiber 0.0g
Protein 29.7g

So, they are not exactly accurate, but they are close enough that your numbers are not going to be completely unreliable. The main one to keep track of is calories and they are pretty close.
dapokerbum
QUOTE (avsfan @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 3:45 AM) *
(i am cuting back on your arm work you use your bi's and tri's in many other movements, this is enough work.


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you know that I am trying to get arms like AAHHHHNOLD! icon_biggrin.gif
Randy Reed
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 10:39 AM) *
Eating out makes it a little tricky, but most places have nutritional info on their website. If not, usually fitday has something comparable and you can just estimate.

Subway's tuna sub looks like this from their website (not including the extra tuna, and the veggies are pretty much free anyway maybe ~40-50 calories)

6" Tuna 530 calories
30.0 g fat
6.0 sat
45mg cholesterol
930mg sodium
46g carbs
5g fiber
21g protein
10% vit A
30% vit C
10% calcium
20% iron

And then from Fitday, I searched for "tuna sub" and came up with the following:

Calories 583.7
Fat 28.0g
Cholesterol 48.6mg
Sodium 1,292.8mg
Carbohydrate 55.4g
Dietary Fiber 0.0g
Protein 29.7g

So, they are not exactly accurate, but they are close enough that your numbers are not going to be completely unreliable. The main one to keep track of is calories and they are pretty close.


Oh, I see. I need to pick some foods I mostly eat and do some playing around with it to give me a better idea. Thanks.

QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 10:43 AM) *
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you know that I am trying to get arms like AAHHHHNOLD! icon_biggrin.gif


\hahhaha
TRB05
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 1:42 PM) *
Oh, I see. I need to pick some foods I mostly eat and do some playing around with it to give me a better idea. Thanks.



\hahhaha


The best part about it is that once you enter a custom food once, it stays there forever, so enter a tuna sub once, and every time you eat one it is just a couple clicks to enter it on your log.

Also, for calculating a recipe you can go here http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-calculator.asp. Enter all your ingredients and how many servings it has and it will give you a nutritional breakdown for everything. Again, it's not perfect, but it is pretty close.
avsfan
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 8:27 AM) *
if I am doing
tricep exercises, cable extension bar or rope does the dips do something more than work the tricep?


The standard dip works the tricep far superior to other tricep exercises. "Standard dips" are the best exercise for the triceps and they also work the chest and shoulders hard. The "tricep dip" (the one socal illustrated) will isolate the tricep more than the 'standard dip" it will also place mush more stress on the shoulders and it will work the chest less than a "standard dip".



avsfan
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 8:35 AM) *
Duh, after writing that i realized that my goal of 5 miles is alot longer than 5K. Checking out a conversion chart it's a little under
3.2 miles which I more than did this morning. I guess I will just work on doing that and increasing the speed and doing it outdoors
now that it's now so hot in the morning to give it a real live test, lol.


I knew that 5k was 3 miles. I just figures why tell you. I f you trainned like it was 5 miles you would do awesome ;P.
avsfan
Randy don't forget to train for the canoeing!
avsfan
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Thursday, August 20th, 2009, 10:43 AM) *
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you know that I am trying to get arms like AAHHHHNOLD! icon_biggrin.gif



Push that intensity! smile.gif lol! Arnold did have awesome genetics, steroids, and the guidance of Reg PArk.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (avsfan @ Friday, August 21st, 2009, 1:59 AM) *
Randy don't forget to train for the canoeing!


Well, canoeing will be added next summer. I have a place down the street that sells Kayaks and i'm near
a river so I'll figure that out in time. I am looking at some duathlons that incorporate running and bike riding.

I know at this point I am not out to win anything other than the pride of finishing. My local town has a 5K
on Thanksgiving that I will run. I drove last night to mark out a route to practice in my neighborhood since
all of my running has been on the treadmill I will have to apply some real running.

I also have a funny story. The bosu finally came in and yesterday morning was the first chance to give it a whirl.



Much to my dismay the guy in the exercise video was a flamer. I did a lower body exercise from the video and though
it wasn't real hard it was tough keeping up and I was starting to really feel some burn in my legs. It's kind of awkward
getting on an off the thing and getting it down. It was towards the end and the flamer was doing some slow down and stretching
type exercieses before it ended, one of which was simply jumping up and down in place on it.

My wife wandered down to see how it was going at this point and here I am hopping up and down with this flamer chatting away.
She looked and asked what I was doing and I said, "The Bunny Hop!"

I didn't think she'd ever stop laughing.
Randy Reed
Saturday I slept in and took an off day. My legs were still pretty shot from the run and bosu anyway.

Sunday the wife's back was hurting so I decided to ride the bike around town. I rode for 2 hours and
probably about 20 miles or so. Riding in town is tougher than the bike trails due to the hills but i'm getting
pretty used to it so it wasn't a problem. It definately gives the legs a workout though.

Monday, I did upper body and tried the dips for the tris. I did 3 sets of 15 (no weight) and it definately
pumped them up. It didn't seem to be working well at first but by the end they were burning pretty good.
I'll definately keep doing them for a while and maybe add some weight.

Planning a 3K run for tommorow outside.
Randy Reed
Well ran the 5K (3.2 miles) this morning outside. First time i've run outside in well, I can't remember. Probably high school 30 years ago, lol.

Anyway it went pretty well. I am used to running sprints and then walking and a couple times I did have to walk a bit but I actually
ended up way stronger than I began and had a fast pace the last mile or so.

I did some looking and in late October there is a 5K i'm going to run and then Thanksgiving is an 8K.
dapokerbum
I did a great leg workout on saturday ... then we went to a party and I got waaaaay to drunk to think about the gym on sunday. We tried a hike instead and I was dying the whole time. Yesterday I was about to go but at the last minute I decided to rest ... first bad decision i've made in a while regarding the gym. Normally I am amped to go after a day off. Tonight I plan to go and do Back / Chest workout. I have an appt to get all my wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow, so we will see if that affects my workout for wednesday and Thursday.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Tuesday, August 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM) *
I did a great leg workout on saturday ... then we went to a party and I got waaaaay to drunk to think about the gym on sunday. We tried a hike instead and I was dying the whole time. Yesterday I was about to go but at the last minute I decided to rest ... first bad decision i've made in a while regarding the gym. Normally I am amped to go after a day off. Tonight I plan to go and do Back / Chest workout. I have an appt to get all my wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow, so we will see if that affects my workout for wednesday and Thursday.


I got drunk last Saturday night for the first time in ages and it's tough to try to do anything afterwards. I think it takes that a while to
get going but afterwards it's wonders for a hangover.

Oh and thanks TRB for the BMI and links to fitday. I've played around with it and have a diet pretty much down. I have a pretty good idea
of what i'm eating and how many calories now which should really help with trying to get the last of this weight off.

Basically my meals are

1.Protien shake with skim milk -200c
2.tuna with a few whole wheat crackers- 200c
3.fat free cottage cheese with some fruit or salad- 200c
4-turkey on lite whole grain - 200c

leaving me plenty of room for a decent dinner in the evening and even a
fat free pudding for a late snack. I've been drinking alot of water with i
so i haven't been hungry.
gooch
off to do some boxing for a while, been very slack on working out lately, trying to get some weight back first, hope there are some hot chicks at this class, they want me to take over teaching it for the fall, that would be a bonus
dapokerbum
Great workout last night. I got my first set of pull ups to 8, so that was cool. Kept the bench press the same weight. I did 3 x 12 x 115. Felt pretty goog about it so I might try to up the weight to 125 on the next chest day.

It's supposed to be leg day today, but I am getting my wisdom teeth pulled in 3 hours ... whee? Not sure if I will make it, but it does bring up a question. If I miss a day, should I just do the leg day tomorrow, or should I move to my shoulder / arm workout? That way the rest time doesn't get messed with? In the past if I lose a day then I would just do the workout that i missed and then move back on. Thoughts?
Randy Reed
QUOTE (dapokerbum @ Wednesday, August 26th, 2009, 9:00 AM) *
Great workout last night. I got my first set of pull ups to 8, so that was cool. Kept the bench press the same weight. I did 3 x 12 x 115. Felt pretty goog about it so I might try to up the weight to 125 on the next chest day.

It's supposed to be leg day today, but I am getting my wisdom teeth pulled in 3 hours ... whee? Not sure if I will make it, but it does bring up a question. If I miss a day, should I just do the leg day tomorrow, or should I move to my shoulder / arm workout? That way the rest time doesn't get messed with? In the past if I lose a day then I would just do the workout that i missed and then move back on. Thoughts?


Not sure it matters. I take one day a week off and if something happens and I miss a day I just use that as the off day. I would go ahead and do the legs the next chance you get. Good luck with the teeth and don't take too many vicodans while you're working out, ha.


Randy Reed
Well, at least i'm keeping the thread alive.


I made the second outside attempt at the 5K this morning and made it through
without stopping for a walk or breather. I actually ran full out the last 100 yards.

When I made it back to the driveway the wifey was in the garage and I started
pumping my arms in the air like Rocky and she was dying laughing at me.

I was not sure I could even run when I woke up, tired and sore from working out
and a cat that wants to wake me at all hours. I started slow for a long while but
gradually increased the speed and hung tough.

This wouldn't seem like a feet to someone that runs alot but realize 6 months ago
I was a total fatass drunk and the most I lifted was a 12--pack.
gooch
went climbing for a few hours today, been a while, i sucked but the 15 lbs i lost sure helped pull my skinny ass up the 10.b for first day of hte season
dapokerbum
Been out for 2 days on Vicodin. Apparently when you get your teeth pulled in your 30's there might be one that is harder to get at then the others. so, I am trying to make it through the day with no vicodin but I might need to take some cause it's getting to that point already. Hoping to be able to get back to the gym tomorrow at the latest...
Asimo
I have never posted in this thread but I wanted to see what you guys thought about what happened to me this week.

For the last 8 months I've put myself on a strict diet and exercise program and have been doing really well and been losing weight and seeing excellent results.

My typical week is Monday, Wednesday, Friday = Weight training (full body workouts). Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday = Cardio (1/2 hour on the treadmill). Sunday = rest. Some times if I'm tired I'll skip a cardio day but I always make sure I get in the three days of weight training.

This week I was in Vegas from Monday to yesterday and I didn't workout at all. I stuck to my diet as much as I could and only really had one night of drinking. However, now that I'm back home I jumped on the scale and to my surprise I still lost the same amount of weight during this time period as I would have if it was a normal workout week.

My question is: Did I most likely lose muscle mass during this time and that is why my weight went down even though I didn't stick to my regular workout schedule? Can you lose muscle mass within 4 days of basically no exercise?

I'm not too worried about this and I'm not stressing out about it or anything, but it was just on my mind and I noticed this tread and decided to ask.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Asimo @ Friday, August 28th, 2009, 12:11 PM) *
I have never posted in this thread but I wanted to see what you guys thought about what happened to me this week.

For the last 8 months I've put myself on a strict diet and exercise program and have been doing really well and been losing weight and seeing excellent results.

My typical week is Monday, Wednesday, Friday = Weight training (full body workouts). Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday = Cardio (1/2 hour on the treadmill). Sunday = rest. Some times if I'm tired I'll skip a cardio day but I always make sure I get in the three days of weight training.

This week I was in Vegas from Monday to yesterday and I didn't workout at all. I stuck to my diet as much as I could and only really had one night of drinking. However, now that I'm back home I jumped on the scale and to my surprise I still lost the same amount of weight during this time period as I would have if it was a normal workout week.

My question is: Did I most likely lose muscle mass during this time and that is why my weight went down even though I didn't stick to my regular workout schedule? Can you lose muscle mass within 4 days of basically no exercise?

I'm not too worried about this and I'm not stressing out about it or anything, but it was just on my mind and I noticed this tread and decided to ask.


I think a couple things are going on. First after working out that long your metabolism has changed and you are probably burning more calories in a day than previously. I don't think this is scientific, just from personal experience. Also, over the course of the week you might have taken in more calories but your body can only absorb so much at any given time so even if you stuffed yourself all week it probably wouldn't add that much. Finally, Sometimes you can trick your body. It gets used to you eating one way and is constantly looking for a way around that to store fat. By shocking the system like you did it wasn't prepared for storing fat in that manner and rejected it. Many people believe in the "eat anything one day" or "twice a week" logic believing it helps keep the body churning.

In any case, kudos for not losing weight and get back on schedule. In this time how much have you lost? What other differences like clothes sizes etc? Sounds like you've been doing great.
Asimo
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Friday, August 28th, 2009, 1:59 PM) *
I think a couple things are going on. First after working out that long your metabolism has changed and you are probably burning more calories in a day than previously. I don't think this is scientific, just from personal experience. Also, over the course of the week you might have taken in more calories but your body can only absorb so much at any given time so even if you stuffed yourself all week it probably wouldn't add that much. Finally, Sometimes you can trick your body. It gets used to you eating one way and is constantly looking for a way around that to store fat. By shocking the system like you did it wasn't prepared for storing fat in that manner and rejected it. Many people believe in the "eat anything one day" or "twice a week" logic believing it helps keep the body churning.

In any case, kudos for not losing weight and get back on schedule. In this time how much have you lost? What other differences like clothes sizes etc? Sounds like you've been doing great.


Thanks for the info.

I've lost a lot of weight in the last 8 months... I won't give out the amount in pounds but overall I've lost 30% of my original body weight. Pant sizes has gone down 20% as well. I still have more weight I want to get off before the end of the year and it is getting harder and harder as I lose more and more weight. But I keep my calories very low, cook 90% of my meals at home, no soda, no junk food, no fast food, drink lots of water. I had a personal trainer for the first 6 months and the last 2 months I've continued on my own.

I meet with my primary care physician and a dietitian every 3 months to determine the appropriate amount of calorie intake and diet.

I just decided to make my health a priority in my life and committed to it and have stuck to it.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Asimo @ Friday, August 28th, 2009, 4:29 PM) *
Thanks for the info.

I've lost a lot of weight in the last 8 months... I won't give out the amount in pounds but overall I've lost 30% of my original body weight. Pant sizes has gone down 20% as well. I still have more weight I want to get off before the end of the year and it is getting harder and harder as I lose more and more weight. But I keep my calories very low, cook 90% of my meals at home, no soda, no junk food, no fast food, drink lots of water. I had a personal trainer for the first 6 months and the last 2 months I've continued on my own.

I meet with my primary care physician and a dietitian every 3 months to determine the appropriate amount of calorie intake and diet.

I just decided to make my health a priority in my life and committed to it and have stuck to it.


Man that's awesome. Congrats! My mantra is Eat to Live, not Live to Eat. I know what you mean about wanting to lose more by the end of the year.
I'm in the same boat. I have done very well and recently ramped up my efforts in an effort to shed the last 8 lbs which just won't seem to go away.
I've been at 166 to 169 for about 3 months and finally just broke the 166 barrier for the first time at 163.7 but it was back up today to 167.9 ugh.
I am used to it fluctuating and don't worry about it though. I know in the long run it all pays off. Progress not perfection!

I ran my 3rd 5K this morning and it was definately alot easier, and really helped by some of the most perfect weather ever created.

Avsfan (you slacker!) I increased the weights on the dumbells per your request to 37.5 lbs and did 3 X 12 reps. A little sore today but very little so
it shouldn't be long before I can rip the 15 reps. The dips are going well also and I really like the exercise. I think I will add a plate to my lap
next time as well.

I am really seeing muscle definition in my arms, legs, backs but I just need to finish getting rid of the last belly fat and I'll be good.

Asimo
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Saturday, August 29th, 2009, 1:57 PM) *
Man that's awesome. Congrats! My mantra is Eat to Live, not Live to Eat. I know what you mean about wanting to lose more by the end of the year.
I'm in the same boat. I have done very well and recently ramped up my efforts in an effort to shed the last 8 lbs which just won't seem to go away.
I've been at 166 to 169 for about 3 months and finally just broke the 166 barrier for the first time at 163.7 but it was back up today to 167.9 ugh.
I am used to it fluctuating and don't worry about it though. I know in the long run it all pays off. Progress not perfection!

I ran my 3rd 5K this morning and it was definately alot easier, and really helped by some of the most perfect weather ever created.

Avsfan (you slacker!) I increased the weights on the dumbells per your request to 37.5 lbs and did 3 X 12 reps. A little sore today but very little so
it shouldn't be long before I can rip the 15 reps. The dips are going well also and I really like the exercise. I think I will add a plate to my lap
next time as well.

I am really seeing muscle definition in my arms, legs, backs but I just need to finish getting rid of the last belly fat and I'll be good.


Thanks! A few books that I own and suggest are "Body For Life" and "Eating For Life" by Bill Phillips. I bought them both used on Amazon for fairly cheap and good condition.

Here is my workout from last week, this takes me about 1 hour to complete:

- Body Weight Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps/Weight
Push-ups 15/2
Lunges 30/2
Lat Pull Down 15/2 105lbs/120lbs
Gate Swings 30/2
Sit-Ups 15/2
Bench Dips 15/2
2 Min sprint (treadmill) 7mph w/ 1% incline

- Free Weight Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps/Weight
DB Incline/Flat Bench 10/2/25lbs each arm
Bent-Over DB Row 10/2/50lbs each arm
DB Push-Press 10/2/25lbs each arm
DB Pullovers 10/2/50lbs both arms at the same time
Bicep Curls 10/2/25lbs each arm
4 Min Hill Climb (treadmill) 4mph w/ 9% incline

- Plyo Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps
Reactive Steps 10/2
Push-Ups 10/2
Torso Twists (with ball) 15/2
Box Jumps 10/1
Squat Thrust 10/1

I have about 20 different workouts like the one above that I just cycle through on a weekly basis. I'm still trying to lose weight right now and not necessarily focusing on building muscle mass on any specific body parts. Once I get to my goal weight I'm going to focus on building mass on specific body parts that I want to improve on.

My Cardio on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays is treadmill 2.5 miles in 31:20 with the first mile being an 11 min mile.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Asimo @ Saturday, August 29th, 2009, 1:24 PM) *
Thanks! A few books that I own and suggest are "Body For Life" and "Eating For Life" by Bill Phillips. I bought them both used on Amazon for fairly cheap and good condition.

Here is my workout from last week, this takes me about 1 hour to complete:

- Body Weight Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps/Weight
Push-ups 15/2
Lunges 30/2
Lat Pull Down 15/2 105lbs/120lbs
Gate Swings 30/2
Sit-Ups 15/2
Bench Dips 15/2
2 Min sprint (treadmill) 7mph w/ 1% incline

- Free Weight Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps/Weight
DB Incline/Flat Bench 10/2/25lbs each arm
Bent-Over DB Row 10/2/50lbs each arm
DB Push-Press 10/2/25lbs each arm
DB Pullovers 10/2/50lbs both arms at the same time
Bicep Curls 10/2/25lbs each arm
4 Min Hill Climb (treadmill) 4mph w/ 9% incline

- Plyo Circuit - Should take 20 mins
Exercise Sets/Reps
Reactive Steps 10/2
Push-Ups 10/2
Torso Twists (with ball) 15/2
Box Jumps 10/1
Squat Thrust 10/1

I have about 20 different workouts like the one above that I just cycle through on a weekly basis. I'm still trying to lose weight right now and not necessarily focusing on building muscle mass on any specific body parts. Once I get to my goal weight I'm going to focus on building mass on specific body parts that I want to improve on.

My Cardio on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays is treadmill 2.5 miles in 31:20 with the first mile being an 11 min mile.


About 8 years ago I hadn't worked out since well, ever. A girlfriend had picked BFL up at a yard sale and it was laying on the coffee table so I read it and thought, hmm, I could do this! Everyone laughed at me, not that I blame them so I went out the next day and bought a used stationary bike and some dumbells. I worked at home 2 months and then joined a gyma and went nuts for a year.

The girlfriend went away, the gym closed a month after I payed a year in advance and I sprained an ankle. So much for BFL, lol. Being pretty much all I knew about exercise and how successful it was I kinda became a BFL guru and participated on some message boards, still do actually. I just started back working out again in late Feb.

Now that I know more I realize that BFL is a great starting point for all the basics but he doesn't get into anything other than that. Avs has helped me make alot of strides since i've taken his advice. I can see the personal trainer has helped you a ton as well since your routine is far from BFL. I do have some questions though.

I have done the BFL cardio, 20 minutes HIIT exactly as he describes forever. I see you alternate cardio but don't do the HIIT. Was that your choice, the trainer or how did that come about? I also see you do some short cardio at the end of the workouts which is definately not BFL? Same question.

I have also still in the weight loss mode though I am gaining alot of muscle so I guess I'm in between doing both. I have been adding alot of core and endurance type work lately and I've been more sore lately than i've been in 6 months, lol.

Where did you get the workout routines and is there a method to your madness or simply just like to change things up?

Ha, I'm into it pretty right now and could talk about this shit for hours, lo..
Asimo
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Saturday, August 29th, 2009, 8:41 PM) *
About 8 years ago I hadn't worked out since well, ever. A girlfriend had picked BFL up at a yard sale and it was laying on the coffee table so I read it and thought, hmm, I could do this! Everyone laughed at me, not that I blame them so I went out the next day and bought a used stationary bike and some dumbells. I worked at home 2 months and then joined a gyma and went nuts for a year.

The girlfriend went away, the gym closed a month after I payed a year in advance and I sprained an ankle. So much for BFL, lol. Being pretty much all I knew about exercise and how successful it was I kinda became a BFL guru and participated on some message boards, still do actually. I just started back working out again in late Feb.

Now that I know more I realize that BFL is a great starting point for all the basics but he doesn't get into anything other than that. Avs has helped me make alot of strides since i've taken his advice. I can see the personal trainer has helped you a ton as well since your routine is far from BFL. I do have some questions though.

I have done the BFL cardio, 20 minutes HIIT exactly as he describes forever. I see you alternate cardio but don't do the HIIT. Was that your choice, the trainer or how did that come about? I also see you do some short cardio at the end of the workouts which is definately not BFL? Same question.

I have also still in the weight loss mode though I am gaining alot of muscle so I guess I'm in between doing both. I have been adding alot of core and endurance type work lately and I've been more sore lately than i've been in 6 months, lol.

Where did you get the workout routines and is there a method to your madness or simply just like to change things up?

Ha, I'm into it pretty right now and could talk about this shit for hours, lo..



I just now noticed that I had the "sets/reps" backwards on the workout listed above. It should be reps/sets, so basically 15reps/2sets, etc. I'm not sure if you caught on to this or not but I just wanted to clarify it.

The workout routines are ones that I did with my trainer for the last 6 months. I was living in a different city for the first 6 months of the year and I only canceled the trainer because I had to move back to Los Angeles. So, after moving back I tested out a few new trainers but none of them could met the expectations that I had from my original trainer. Rather then waste time and money, I spoke with my original trainer and he suggest I just cycle through our previous workouts until I hit my goal weight.

I purchased BFL and EFL after stopping with my trainer. The cardio portion of my weekly exercise was suggested to me by my trainer. It's really helped and I have been able to progress and increase my stamina on the treadmill and speed. I first started off doing 3mph walk with 1% incline for 10 mins. Like I mentioned before I'm now up to doing 2.5 miles in 31:20 (Here's the breakdown of the 31:20. Did the first 11 mins at 5.5mph, then 4 mins at 3mph, then 5 mins at 5mph, then 3 mins at 3 mph and the final 8:20 mins at 5mph.) I've been thinking about building up and training for a 5K race before the end of the year. Right now the 2.5 miles are difficult but I do get them done. I'm pretty sure with a few more months of increasing cardio that I'll be able to do a 5K no problem.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Asimo @ Sunday, August 30th, 2009, 11:17 AM) *
I just now noticed that I had the "sets/reps" backwards on the workout listed above. It should be reps/sets, so basically 15reps/2sets, etc. I'm not sure if you caught on to this or not but I just wanted to clarify it.

The workout routines are ones that I did with my trainer for the last 6 months. I was living in a different city for the first 6 months of the year and I only canceled the trainer because I had to move back to Los Angeles. So, after moving back I tested out a few new trainers but none of them could met the expectations that I had from my original trainer. Rather then waste time and money, I spoke with my original trainer and he suggest I just cycle through our previous workouts until I hit my goal weight.

I purchased BFL and EFL after stopping with my trainer. The cardio portion of my weekly exercise was suggested to me by my trainer. It's really helped and I have been able to progress and increase my stamina on the treadmill and speed. I first started off doing 3mph walk with 1% incline for 10 mins. Like I mentioned before I'm now up to doing 2.5 miles in 31:20 (Here's the breakdown of the 31:20. Did the first 11 mins at 5.5mph, then 4 mins at 3mph, then 5 mins at 5mph, then 3 mins at 3 mph and the final 8:20 mins at 5mph.) I've been thinking about building up and training for a 5K race before the end of the year. Right now the 2.5 miles are difficult but I do get them done. I'm pretty sure with a few more months of increasing cardio that I'll be able to do a 5K no problem.


The reccomended BFL cardio is a little different not that it matters a ton but what i've done the last 6 months goes like

6 months ago
Minutes-speed-level 2 incline
2-3.3 warm up walk
1-3.8 faster walk
1-4- lite jog
1-4.5 a little faster
1-5 close to my max

1-3.3 walk again and repeat
1-4
1-4.5
1-5
repeat 2 more times
ending with 1 minute at 5.5 (near death)
and 2 minutes cool down.

That's the twenty minutes cardio

Now I pretty much cycle speeds of 5 5.5 6
maxing out at 6.5 with an incline of 3 then 4, then 5, then 6 each sprint.

It's basically four increasing sprints each level.

It got to where I could tell a good or bad run by the last 15 seconds.
It is really designed to get you to max out and get to the anaerobic level.

I recently decided to give the 5K a whirl and started training for it last week.
First off, running outside will take it's toll on your legs alot more than the treadmill. Yeouch!

Avs pointed out an iphone ap that provided some timing and training suggestions. I don't have
an iphone but I looked at the site and it was written out. It was basically suggesting trying
like we do cardio. Alternate between a jog and walk and increase as you can.

I did that the first time out and then went very slow the second time and made it. I have done it
two more times now and it's definately easier as I go. I started at 45 minutes the first 2 times.
41 the third and 36 this morning. I thought I was doing great at that time until I looked
at the times for a local 5K that ran recently and apparently I'm in between the one-legged guy
and the great grandma's in walkers coalition, lol.

While the weather is nice I would definately try giving the outdoors a whirl. I like it alot better than
the treadmill.
Suited_Up
Asimo, I noticed you said you're keeping your calories very low. This is usually not a good idea. It will actually hurt you from losing weight, and especially building any muscle. I'm just not sure what exactly is very low for you. But it's especially important if you're working out almost every day.

I noticed it for sure when I was trying to drop lbs for a weight loss bet, and I just stopped losing for a week or two, and then found out I wasn't eating enough, as soon as I tried to get more calories, a day or two later I dropped a couple pounds again.

Randy, it looks like you basically did 800 calories through the day, and then left the rest for dinner. But you want to be up towards 2100, which is a pretty big dinner. I think you'd benefit from making your breakfast more like 600c, and doing everything else the same, maybe a little less dinner. But more for breakfast is usually better.

Personally, I learned quite a bit just reading the forums over at Men's Health.
SBriand
OK so for some motivation I have decided that I will start training to run a 5K. I see the likes of RR doing this and my dad as well and I figure if and almost 50 guy and a my dad who is 62 doing it then, me at 37 should get off his ass and try it.

I don't run much. I have bad knees from years and years of soccer but not bad enough to limit my running. (yes they have been looked at by an ortho guy.) My main issue is stamina. For whatever reason I can skate and bike for days and days but running wears me out fast. So I have been searching around and found a regimen that I think I can do and I will start with that and see how it goes.

3 days a week I will start off with a 5 min walk, then 60 sec run/90 sec walk for 20 minutes. Each week more time running less walking. I will also be using the bike from time to time to help since I figure I can improve my stamina on that on certain days to when my legs are "feeling the burn." From time to time I will just go and run and see how far my stamina will take me.


My question is this, what things should I be eating the day of or day before I do these training things. Anything special that helps?
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Monday, August 31st, 2009, 7:49 PM) *
Asimo, I noticed you said you're keeping your calories very low. This is usually not a good idea. It will actually hurt you from losing weight, and especially building any muscle. I'm just not sure what exactly is very low for you. But it's especially important if you're working out almost every day.

I noticed it for sure when I was trying to drop lbs for a weight loss bet, and I just stopped losing for a week or two, and then found out I wasn't eating enough, as soon as I tried to get more calories, a day or two later I dropped a couple pounds again.

Randy, it looks like you basically did 800 calories through the day, and then left the rest for dinner. But you want to be up towards 2100, which is a pretty big dinner. I think you'd benefit from making your breakfast more like 600c, and doing everything else the same, maybe a little less dinner. But more for breakfast is usually better.

Personally, I learned quite a bit just reading the forums over at Men's Health.


I have upped it actually and and probably do closer to 300 per the 4 meals, a larger dinner and then a later snack type food. It's still hard to
judge the dinner calories and the snack is usually about 200 so I'm probably close but not spaced ideally. I have lost 3 lbs in a week and half
doing this though so it's working I guess. I'm going to keep messing with the foods and calories to get better counts. It's a pain though,lol.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, September 1st, 2009, 9:27 AM) *
OK so for some motivation I have decided that I will start training to run a 5K. I see the likes of RR doing this and my dad as well and I figure if and almost 50 guy and a my dad who is 62 doing it then, me at 37 should get off his ass and try it.

I don't run much. I have bad knees from years and years of soccer but not bad enough to limit my running. (yes they have been looked at by an ortho guy.) My main issue is stamina. For whatever reason I can skate and bike for days and days but running wears me out fast. So I have been searching around and found a regimen that I think I can do and I will start with that and see how it goes.

3 days a week I will start off with a 5 min walk, then 60 sec run/90 sec walk for 20 minutes. Each week more time running less walking. I will also be using the bike from time to time to help since I figure I can improve my stamina on that on certain days to when my legs are "feeling the burn." From time to time I will just go and run and see how far my stamina will take me.


My question is this, what things should I be eating the day of or day before I do these training things. Anything special that helps?


Man I thought I was OLD. 37? hahaha

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

Here is the link to the Couch to 5K program that I found online. I've been running on the treadmill for 5 months so I was able to go to the run
alot quicker but I think this will give you an idea and you can work at your own pace. Oh yeah, I smoke like a fiend so again, if I can do it
you should be able to "smoke" me in no time.

I have no idea about the food other than what I am doing. I believe you should definately get some protien and carbs pre-run like a protien shake but others
might suggest something better. I hate eating before I work out so I just drink the shake after I get back and take a shower.

I've been looking at the top times and categories for some of the 5K's and such but I haven't seen a smoker's category which is pissing me off. I would
definately be top of my class, haha.

Last Sunday I did 20 miles on the bike and then did an Ab workout on the swiss ball the wifey was wanting me to do. I like it a ton more than the bosu if only for the fact Brooke Burke is in that vs the gay guys on the bosu. The wifey smacked me if I asked if I could watch it again.
aucu
First day today. icon_dance.gif
Asimo
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Monday, August 31st, 2009, 8:49 PM) *
Asimo, I noticed you said you're keeping your calories very low. This is usually not a good idea. It will actually hurt you from losing weight, and especially building any muscle. I'm just not sure what exactly is very low for you. But it's especially important if you're working out almost every day.

I noticed it for sure when I was trying to drop lbs for a weight loss bet, and I just stopped losing for a week or two, and then found out I wasn't eating enough, as soon as I tried to get more calories, a day or two later I dropped a couple pounds again.

Randy, it looks like you basically did 800 calories through the day, and then left the rest for dinner. But you want to be up towards 2100, which is a pretty big dinner. I think you'd benefit from making your breakfast more like 600c, and doing everything else the same, maybe a little less dinner. But more for breakfast is usually better.

Personally, I learned quite a bit just reading the forums over at Men's Health.


I keep my calories between 1500-1700 calories a day. I try to get in 3 meals and a few protein snacks a day.

Typical day:

Breakfast - 2 eggs and 1 piece of whole grain toast

Lunch - 4oz-6oz of chicken/fish/beef with vegetable (corn or broccoli) and brown rice

After workout - Protein shake or bar (most of the time protein shake because it has less calories, less sugar and more protein)

Dinner - 4oz-6oz of chicken/fish/beef with vegetable

I do mix in fruit, other vegetables, unsalted raw nuts and plain yogurt throughout the day to keep fueling the fire.

I don't necessarily stick to this 100% of the time but if I'm home and not traveling or going out I try stick to this as much as possible.


Also!!!! I ran a 10 minute mile last night and 2.5 miles in 30:42. I haven't ran a 10 minute mile since high school!
SBriand
thanks for the info guys


I started a little last night to get a feel for it. I hate running in the dark though so Tuesdays I will use the gym.

Walked for 5 minutes.
Ran for 1 minute
Walked for 1.5 minutes
Ran for 1 minute
Walked for 1.5 minutes
jogged for 1
Walked for 1.5 minutes
jogged for 1 minute
Walked for 2 minutes

Went 1.4 miles.

My ankles hurt today but my legs feel fine.

I think I will hit the bike tonight and try this again tomorrow.
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