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Canuckickstan
New to live play and first time at this casino. No reads as I was just called from the waiting list. I sat down in late pos with $150 (1/2) and get a hand without posting.The other stacks looked to be around $200.

Hero-AJ icon_suit_spade.gif in the cutoff with 5 limpers. I make it $15 and get 5 callers.

Flop A icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif K icon_suit_spade.gif
Checked to me, bet $50 into $90 pot and get 2 calls. (pot $240)

Turn Q icon_suit_club.gif and the first to act pushes in $125, folds to me. Hero $85 left ?

I should mention that the table let out a groan as they saw the queen. Now that I do the math my decision should not have been that hard. Thoughts ?
ah2388
absolute best case scenario this is a better two pair....


insta fold/reload
mtdesmoines
At this point, what are you beating?
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 2:15 PM) *
At this point, what are you beating?


KQ
Ace rag
The guy who doesn't have a 10 ??

I would think AK would have raised in front of me.
Acid_Knight
Have more money preflop.
Bet more on the flop, like, the whole pot. I wouldn't even hate if you shoved just cause of your stack size.
I fold the turn.
Willing 2 Die
Sorry, but i just can't see Villian having a 10 in his hand. He called the flop with A10? Thats garbage. What are the odds we need to boat up on the river? The pot is laying us 3 to 1, plus the fact we only have $85 left. I'd feel better just sticking it in trusting my gut that he's betting with his two pair, then reload with a fresh $200 if we're wrong.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (MAV_304 @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 2:53 PM) *
Sorry, but i just can't see Villian having a 10 in his hand. He called the flop with A10? Thats garbage. What are the odds we need to boat up on the river? The pot is laying us 3 to 1, plus the fact we only have $85 left. I'd feel better just sticking it in trusting my gut that he's betting with his two pair, then reload with a fresh $200 if we're wrong.

If you're implying that he called the flop with KQ/QJ then it's just as likely that he's got AT/KT/QT/JT or a better 2 pair and has us beaten.
Willing 2 Die
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 2:57 PM) *
If you're implying that he called the flop with KQ/QJ then it's just as likely that he's got AT/KT/QT/JT or a better 2 pair and has us beaten.


True. I guess i'm thinking in terms of what i would not call the flop with, which is far different than most 1-2 players.

We've got $85 left. We're actually getting 4 to 1 odds on our $85 investment (which can't be to far off the odds of hitting our boat) so i just stick it here and if he has a 10, so be it, he played it awful and got lucky. Just such a sick first hand at the table thou.
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (MAV_304 @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 4:03 PM) *
True. I guess i'm thinking in terms of what i would not call the flop with, which is far different than most 1-2 players.

We've got $85 left. We're actually getting 4 to 1 odds on our $85 investment (which can't be to far off the odds of hitting our boat) so i just stick it here and if he has a 10, so be it, he played it awful and got lucky. Just such a sick first hand at the table thou.


This is what Patrick(Rab) and my wife pointed out to me after the fact. I think I had 6 outs to win and possibly 3 10s to chop. I was a little too nervous to do the correct math at the time. 1 thing though, live 1/2 is a fairly loose game compared to what I am used to. I saw guys calling raises with all sorts of crap.
fdsafdsa
QUOTE (Canuckickstan @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 3:11 PM) *
This is what Patrick(Rab) and my wife pointed out to me after the fact. I think I had 6 outs to win and possibly 3 10s to chop. I was a little too nervous to do the correct math at the time. 1 thing though, live 1/2 is a fairly loose game compared to what I am used to. I saw guys calling raises with all sorts of crap.


How on earth could you have 6 outs to win?
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (fdsafdsa @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 3:34 PM) *
How on earth could you have 6 outs to win?

He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax.
fdsafdsa
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 3:49 PM) *
He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax.


No
Canuckickstan
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 4:49 PM) *
He miscounted, he's got 4 outs. Relax.


Yep, my bad. This is assuming villian doesn't have AK or AQ, which he would have limped with.
Zach6668
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 4:40 PM) *
Have more money preflop.

This is my favorite advice ever.
MyPlayIsRAB
pumped for grey eagle friday imo. will be going every day til then as well, but still. like i said at the casino, i snap here every time in a 12 live game
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