cwik
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:39 AM
Villain is a donk, 58/2/2.50, he thinks I have made so moves on him in the past when I had some legitimate hands in the past.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
ConverterStack sizes:UTG: $91
Hero: $358.05
CO: $200
Button: $148.40
SB: $316.20
BB: $70.75
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 4

4
UTG folds,
Hero raises to $7,
3 folds, BB calls.
Flop: A

J

A

(
$15, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Turn: 4

(
$15, 2 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $10, BB calls.
River: J

(
$35, 2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero ...
ROBBBIGG
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:46 AM
Fold. 5 high beats you and if he thinks you might be making a move on him he's calling with king high and definitely not folding his boat.
cwik
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:54 AM
QUOTE (ROBBBIGG @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:46 AM)

Fold. 5 high beats you and if he thinks you might be making a move on him he's calling with king high and definitely not folding his boat.
5 high is no good here.
ROBBBIGG
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:58 AM
QUOTE (cwik @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:54 AM)

5 high is no good here.
Oh yeah (totally forgot that when your boat is likely counterfeited, you still have a boat

)
In that case I probably call if villain is awful and can bluff here. Short of that specific read I fold.
mikeysong
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 4:55 AM
why didn't you cbet flop? Are you ever checking an ace w/the flush draw there?
If he can read hands at all, this makes it more towards a call than a fold.
krup24
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 4:58 AM
i really don't like him leading into me on the river here so I probably dump it. this can very easily be a jack. it's close though between call/fold.
ah2388
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 5:52 AM
i bet the flop, turn play is fine, and i fold the river assuming he called the flop
psujohn
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 6:03 AM
You're all sure that this is a bluff <20% of the time? We're getting > 3:1 on the river call. I think villain's range is heavily weighted toward KQ, KT, QT type hands that think you're FOS on the turn bet. Realistically villain should assume that the turn couldn't have possibly improved your hand. I think he's value betting K high enough here for us to call profitably.
Acid_Knight
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 7:33 AM
Players don't bluff a lot on boards like this. If he is bluffing, he's taking a very odd line anyway. I think you get shown a J way more often than you'd like if you want to call and still show a profit.
mtdesmoines
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 8:46 AM
QUOTE (cwik @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:39 AM)

meh ... I can't get fired up about calling.
In real time, I probably muck.
After sitting here thinking, I might convince myself to call.
Money022
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 9:29 AM
Fold.
cardcore
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 9:32 AM
If you call you're probably losing, I'd say you might win if you put in a healthy raise here, he'll fold a jack as long as he's not retarded. He's not betting 1/2 pot here with king high into a solid player, imo. I'd probably just fold, though. not worth it.
ah2388
Monday, January 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (cwik @ Monday, January 14th, 2008, 1:39 AM)

Villain is a donk, 58/2/2.50, he thinks I have made so moves on him in the past when I had some legitimate hands in the past.
hes not folding a jack here ever
Zach6668
Tuesday, January 15th, 2008, 2:27 AM
ZEEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOO
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