Game started 3 handed, but I'm playing HU vs a complete maniac. He's shoved a lot of flops, probably 75% of them, the others he folds. He's slightly aggro preflop, minraising any hand he likes, regardless of position. Villain hasn't shown down a hand except for when he open shoved Queens preflop and was called by AK suited (another player, now gone).

Effectively Full Stacks ($200)
Me (Button)
Him (BB)

Hero holds 98 suited (diamonds)

I bet 6, he raises to 12, I call.

Flop: 74J, 2 diamonds
Villain shoves, I snap call.

Ok, so I brick and he has KJ. I'm then made fun of pretty relentlessly, but I'm checking with you guys - against a villain whose range pf is pretty murky (he's playing about 75% or so of his hands, shoving what is likely all his pocket pairs PF) and shoves too many flops to always have a pair, the call is standard, right? Furthermore, given he's likely willing (but not 100%) to sit until one of us has all the money, should I have waited until I had a stronger hand? He's been grinding me down a decent amount with his minraise + shoves, but we each have a decent amount of money (3x more BIs for me, a lot more for him) willing to reload with.

Zach might bitch if i sat this...

If he's not going to reload and the game ends once you lose this buyin, I think you can pass this hand up. You're currently not even way ahead of Q high. I think it'd be much smarter to get all in against him w/ top pair than a super draw.

Of course this is meaningless, but even if it did matter, OP says he has lots of buyins left to reload with.

FWIW, I played moderately tighter and after getting just $20 short of even he quit me. I suspect if I hit my draw in the above hand he would played until he went broke.

If villan does have Q high, then hero could have as many as 18 outs (3 eights, 3 nines, 4 tens, 8 diamonds), making him basically a 70/30 fav. in the hand. If his pair cards are not live, he still has 12 outs, making it a 50/50...

How is this not a shove HU?

18 outs is 61/39, not 70/30. I though it was closer to 58/42 though. It's never a shove because we can't shove, we've already been shoved on. It is a call, I was just saying this superdraw isn't that great against an aggro player that already went all in into us.

Assume the villain has a Jx hand. We are not 50/50 with 12 outs and I don't think we should call here. If he's really just shoving that many flops, it shouldn't be too hard to make a better hand than 9 high to stack off with...

For his actual hand, the call is only about an $8 mistake. The call is right if we think we have pair outs sometimes. I don't think it matters much what we do here, honestly.

I think we can take suited connectors out of our game entirely. In a "normal" game, we make money with these hands by semibluffing or getting paid after we hit. The shovebot negates both of these, so just forget it. The blinds mean nothing. Wait for a hand that you think can be best hot & cold.

Man, don't do it. We don't have to do this one again.

I'm pretty on the fence about this play.
I don't think we need to make this play against a villain who's giving us multiple shots at his stack.

WHY DID YOU BOLD THAT?!!?!?!?!?!?

It was so subtle and I was gonna slip it right past Zach!!!


EDIT: Also, I didn't really say wait for a better spot. I don't think that this is a very +EV play here and if he's shoving that many hands, I'd prefer to be calling all in with some kind of made hand than a draw since we're not even gonna show a profit against top pair by calling here.