bdc30
Thursday, January 10th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
ConverterStack sizes:UTG: $51.10
CO: $51.30
Button: $14.80
SB: $103.40
Hero: $56.85
Pre-flop: (
5 players) Hero is BB with K

K
3 folds,
SB raises to $1.5,
Hero raises to $6,
SB raises to $54.75,
Villain is like 16/8 - what else does he do this with?
Syntonic
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:13 AM
When I first looked at this, I would have said it's a fold if you think you have a good read, and I think a fold is reasonable. However, I noticed it's six-max. I have such a hard time folding a hand like this short handed.
I'm a nitty full ring player. Is this ever a fold when it's six handed? I mean, without a good read / notes?
I think I would make this call; wouldn't someone with AK or QQ make the same little donkshove 4-bet like that?
ShadowKill
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Can't fold K's in this situation. Folding this hand here is a losing situation in the long run. If a 3 bet reraise from the small blind will make you fold K's I'd love to have you in my game any day. A call is definitely warranted here. If he is uber-aggressive he could probably be doing this with a hand as weak as 10's or J's if he thinks you are just trying to steal here. Like decypher says the situation might be different in a full ring game but given the inability to get too much information from a small blind bet it is a must call.
bdc30
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:24 AM
I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle.
Dictius
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:27 AM
I've found that these random overshoves are usually not AA, but it depends on the player yeah?
Could easily be QQ+, AQs, AK. Maybe even JJ if the guys a donk.
Don't fold KK, call.
NoBBiR
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:40 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 12:24 AM)

I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle.
Because - he is putting you on weaker holding because it is 6-max, and you should be returning the favor.
Do not fold. People do this with AK and QQ a lot, I don't care what he rolls over, I'm never folding.
Zach6668
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 1:11 AM
Instacall, imo.
mikeysong
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 2:47 AM
u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!"
GeneralGeeWhiz
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 2:50 AM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 2:47 AM)

u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!"
+1 lol
krup24
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 5:43 AM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 4:11 AM)

Instacall, imo.
yep
David_Nicoson
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 6:12 AM
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 3:24 AM)

I fail to see the difference (in this case) between 6max and full ring. A blind battle is a blind battle.
Yeah, I think it's the same in an optimal strategy sense. On the other hand, villains who are playing in 6-max are less likely to play too passively in this situation.
Acid_Knight
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 7:28 AM
QUOTE (mikeysong @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 2:47 AM)

u should be jumping up out of your chair screaming "I GOT YOU!"
It's a 6 max BvB battle and a guy just overshoved of a standard reraise. I couldn't possibly get my chips in any faster here and I'd already be counting how many Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers I could buy with my profits!
mtdesmoines
Friday, January 11th, 2008, 8:00 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, January 11th, 2008, 7:28 AM)

It's a 6 max BvB battle and a guy just overshoved of a standard reraise. I couldn't possibly get my chips in any faster here and I'd already be counting how many Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers I could buy with my profits!
thebenCA
Wednesday, January 16th, 2008, 2:11 PM
I'd have a hard time laying down KK in a low stakes short handed game, unless I have really good read. Without knowing your specific read on the player, I tend to fall back on what I know of players in general at $.25/$.50. It's pretty common to see them overplay hands like 10-10, JJ, QQ, A-Ks, or even A-Qs (occasionally). Since there's only one hand within his range that scares you (AA) I think you have to call.
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