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bassplayer45459
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1870
UTG+1: t1255
MP1: t1115
MP2: t1430
MP3: t1540
CO: t1765
Button: t420
SB: t1120
bassplayer45: t2985

Pre-flop: (9 players) bassplayer45 is BB with T icon_suit_club.gif K icon_suit_club.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t50 (pot was t75), MP1 calls t50 (pot was t125), 4 folds, SB calls t25 (pot was t175), bassplayer45 checks.

Flop: 6 icon_suit_club.gif 4 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_spade.gif (t200, 4 players)
SB checks, bassplayer45 checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets t150, SB folds, bassplayer45 calls t150 (pot was t350), UTG+1 calls t150 (pot was t500).

Turn: K icon_suit_diamond.gif (t650, 3 players)
bassplayer45 checks, UTG+1 bets t100, MP1 raises to t200, bassplayer45 calls t200 (pot was t950), UTG+1 calls t100 (pot was t1150).

River: A icon_suit_diamond.gif (t1250, 3 players)
bassplayer45 checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 is all-in t715, bassplayer45 folds, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: t715 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: t1250
Metternich
I think I would play it the same, very confusing hand though. Could it be a set of 6s or 4s?
TravisG
i'd raise the turn, if not shove.
bassplayer45459
Yeah i was very confused, i couldnt put anyone on a hand. I thought A9 as i looked at it, but the action in front of me on the turn screamed set from the min raiser.

WHY THE HELL DOES EVERYONE MIN RAISE!
PT0077
I would have shoved the turn, you're ahead more times than not with the second nut flush draw/top pair.....
litlebullet
Why didn't you lead out 150-200 on the flop. If you had done that, easy turn shove. If you wiff, easy turn check/ fold.
Doug
I completely disagree. I dont think raising the turn does anything. Personally I dont want to go broke in a sng which resulted in having K10 from the big blind. I never shove the turn here but thats just me.
TravisG
QUOTE (Doug @ Saturday, December 29th, 2007, 12:58 PM) *
I completely disagree. I dont think raising the turn does anything. Personally I dont want to go broke in a sng which resulted in having K10 from the big blind. I never shove the turn here but thats just me.


the only reason you don't shove is that you're afraid of going broke?
Sheiky
At FT, everyone at lower levels either min bets/raises or bets pot, you have to look at their min bets and pot bets as just normal bets and not try and work out the hidden meaning because most of the time there isnt any.

I would push turn.

And Doug, look at the stack sizes, even if hero gets called and loses he'll still have 14/500 chips which is more than enough to continue.
bassplayer45459
Thanks for the thoughts guys
sennin
QUOTE (Doug @ Saturday, December 29th, 2007, 5:58 AM) *
I completely disagree. I dont think raising the turn does anything. Personally I dont want to go broke in a sng which resulted in having K10 from the big blind. I never shove the turn here but thats just me.


I agree in general

But in this case the OP has both of the players covered by a lot, and I think he can take the risk
Sheiky
QUOTE (Doug @ Saturday, December 29th, 2007, 11:58 AM) *
I completely disagree. I dont think raising the turn does anything. Personally I dont want to go broke in a sng which resulted in having K10 from the big blind. I never shove the turn here but thats just me.


That's a bad way to look at poker, if you flop trips with 23 on a board of 33A are you going to fold because you started with 23?

You have to evaluate your hand at every stage of a hand, if you believe your equity+fold equity makes a certain play profitable then you should do it.
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