AndyZ28
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 5:40 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed)
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saw flop|
saw showdownButton (t2830)
SB (t6290)
BB (t16145)
UTG Villian (t11085)UTG+1 (t6030)
MP1 (t14935)
MP2 (t11660)
AndyZ28 (t8810)CO (t8680)
Preflop: AndyZ28 is MP3 with A

, A

.
Villian calls t150,
3 folds,
AndyZ28 raises to t450,
4 folds, Villian calls t300.
Flop: (t1125) Q

, 3

, 6
(2 players)Villian checks,
AndyZ28 bets t750, Villian calls t750.
Turn: (t2625) 7
(2 players)Villian checks,
AndyZ28 bets t2000Villain took along time on the turn. Requested time and all that jazz. Should I have bet around 1,600 here? I figure this was all standard, but just want to make sure. Should I have bet more on the flop as well??
throwemaway
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 5:47 PM
You could probably bet a little less on the turn..There are really no draws to price out
1600 is prolly what I'd bet, but your bet isnt bad by any means
AndyZ28
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 5:50 PM
QUOTE (throwemaway @ Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 7:47 PM)

You could probably bet a little less on the turn..There are really no draws to price out
1600 is prolly what I'd bet, but your bet isnt bad by any means
Ok. After he folded, 1600 popped into my head. I was putting him on some kind of Queen, but I think he would have called.
Edit: Just realized you're from Normal. You go to ISU or anything?
Doug
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 6:00 PM
As there is no real draw other than 45 which would have got there 1600 is probably better than 2000 in this spot. Although your opponent probably wasn't a donk as he was able to lay down top pair but on this board there is no real danger and you almost want to invite a call I suppose. This is about as safe as it's going to get for aces.
Wingman008
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 8:24 PM
Um...bet less...like everyone else said.
What about checking the turn altogether though? Would this allow a big bet or shove to be called on the river?
And I'm the third Illinois player to post in this thread.
Coincidence?
Probably
AndyZ28
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 8:28 PM
I didn't really think about checking the turn until after I made this thread. I guess I could have.
KowboyKoop
Tuesday, December 25th, 2007, 8:48 PM
I see no reason to check turn....just bet out on the turn.......1500 or so........we don't have THAT big of a monster hand that we need to be slowplaying it...it's only one pair....if we check turn and a K, Q, J, or T comes on the river and villian bets big...what do we do there? I think checking the turn gives up control of the hand and we have little info on a potential river bet by villian.....don't get too fancy.
E-Cart6
Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 3:59 AM
I think he had 99-JJ. You probably wouldn't have won that much anyway.
Good bet. I'd have bet the same.
donk4life
Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 7:02 AM
QUOTE (E-Cart6 @ Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 5:59 AM)

I think he had 99-JJ. You probably wouldn't have won that much anyway.
Good bet. I'd have bet the same.
I doubt villain would be limping here with JJ or 10's.. maybe 9's...
E-Cart6
Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 10:03 AM
QUOTE (donk4life @ Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 4:02 PM)

I doubt villain would be limping here with JJ or 10's.. maybe 9's...
Hm yeah i missed the limping part. Probably 9's or 8's then. Possible a weirdo with 10's.
Yahkin
Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 2:06 PM
Checking the turn would be bad IMO. Remember, he just called on your flop bet, so he's probably not horribly strong. I think you get a check behind a lot here. Bet 1500.
jjgoldy5
Thursday, December 27th, 2007, 3:29 PM
QUOTE (Yahkin @ Wednesday, December 26th, 2007, 5:06 PM)

Checking the turn would be bad IMO. Remember, he just called on your flop bet, so he's probably not horribly strong. I think you get a check behind a lot here. Bet 1500.
Hero is in position, so if he checks behind on the turn he can snap off a river bluff / get a lot of value out of a confused queen.
Theres really a lot of different ways to play this, it just depends (like everything else in poker) on your opponent
Sheiky
Thursday, December 27th, 2007, 3:34 PM
^Right on.
This is a situation where it may be unlikely you're going to get three streets of value from him, in which case it's generaly the case that you'll get more value on the river by checking the turn rather than hoping he calls both.
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