Ok here we go; A girl on a danish forum: www.casino.dk wrote a potodds article. Abour calculating outs and how much its gonna cost you calling and hitting your draw vs the pot and amount you have to put in.

1. Isnt it a "greyzone" so to speak to rely if not solely but much on potodds, IF you dont understand the fundamentals in poker, for example drawing to a weak flush, drawing when the board is pairing, drawing to a sucka str8 and so on? I mean even if you calculate your outs, it doesnt really matter if youre a bad player right?

2. Isnt it too risky relying on potodds in some situation, where your reads tell ya that youre beat?

3. How much do you guys rely on potodds when making a decision?

Isnt potodds best used on a board where either your outs are very low, making a decision easy, or when youre drawing to a VERY strong hand, and not to be used with minimal hole cards, and cold boards?

I rely on them much more in limit, much less in NL but I value Implied odds much more..


yes pot odds are very important, even if you have a tell that says the dude has trip aces on the flop, if your drawing to the nut flush and you have the sufficient pot odds you should call (unless of course the board pairs on the turn), in NL its much different because your opponent can control your odds, so IMO implied odds become a bigger factor.....maybe wrong though...just IMO

Well, when the board is paired, and your read tells you he doesn't have the third, and you have one overcard and a straight draw, then it's a close call. It's not always so obvious what to do.

Yeah I just read more on implied odds. and a much more in depth pot odds article at http://teamfu.freeshell.org/poker_odds.html
. Its so much more detailed than the other short and superficial article i read yesterday. I´m not that good at math though, so I have to read it SEVERAL times :shock:

rajmando--check out The Theory of Poker by Sklansky. it explains odds in detail and will clear things up for you a bit :wink:

3. How much do you guys rely on potodds when making a decision?

every hand

In Limit... its all that really matters to me post flop. Not ALL but... it's something you should be using every hand, just make it something you barely have to think about.

When you talk about fundamentals of poker, pot odds is an important fundamental of poker. You should know how to use pot odds along with the other fundamentals of poker (like reading players). In other words you should look at the pot odds and the odds of your read on the player and use them together to decide your move.