I'm going tonight and so freaking psyched!!!


Obv. Brag Post and trying to kill time at work till tonight....

You have to be gay to go to this don't you?

Big men in speedos touching each other in areas i'd not like to be touched in by a man.

He will be around more Playboy models tonight than you will likely ever be, he is clearly gay.

Sunny, Trish... and the wife is staying home.

Watching it now, its been awesome so far

The ladder match has been the best part so far. Everything else has been meh...

i watched this, although im not really a fan - i thought it was well done and the end was classic, it seems like theres not as much daring stuff involved as their used to be, people getting set alight with flamethrowers etc...

shutup

QFT


The show was freaking awesome live. The Beer Bash at the end went about 20 min or so after they went off the air.

When they had those old guys do the royal rumble I almost pissed my pants... they had to try like 3 times to throw them over the ropes lol.

I liked the flashbacks during the commercial breaks.... especially when William Regal kissed McMahon's ass, that was the funniest thing ever.

Not that anybody should be using gay as an insult, but you would have to be gay not to go if you had the opportunity. 15th anniversary of Raw-who wouldn't want to go to that?


...and Lita-although obviously Trish is the best diva.


Ladder matches are always good, but with Jeff, they are always great. It was my favorite match yesterday and at Wrestlemania 23, the one thing I remember (the one thing that sticks out) is Jeff jumping off the big ass ladder onto Edge-who was also on a ladder-and breaking that ladder.


The flashbacks were great. I really want to get the 15th anniversary DVD so I can watch all of those clips.

I wish the Rock came

Just my prediction.... for the future.

Triple H beats Jeff Hardy at pay per view.

Triple H beats Randy Orton at Royal Rumble to gain WWE Title
Jeff Hardy wins Royal Rumble

Jeff Hardy beats Triple H at WrestleMania

Me too-I knew he wasn't because they would have advertised it like they did with Hogan, Mick Foley, and Stone Cold, but I was still hoping for him to come.

Is there anywhere online I can watch this?

Considering Triple H pretty much has complete control over his character since he is Vince's son-in-law, don't expect him to ever lose at their biggest PPV of the year.

He's lost the last few WM's...

There's rumours to that he might be fighting Batista.

I really hope it's not though, I hope Jeff Hardy somehow gets into the main event. I'm not a huge fan of Batista. He's not exciting or a good entertainer.

The whole Smackdown roster is pretty lame right now, IMO, since they lost Kennedy, Carlito, and Cena. The only thing they really have going for them is Edge. I think he should carry the title for the smackdown Roster.

I would rather see it as Jeff Hardy beating Triple H at Armagedon. Triple H winning the Royal Rumble and Jeff HArdy winning the title at the Royal Rumble and then Triple H winning the title at Wrestlemania.

When is the last time he won at Wrestlemania? (In 2003)


Edge, Batista, and Undertaker.

I wish that WWE could go back to having one roster that competes on all shows. It's similar to ECW and Smackdown now-it is a lot more interesting now that the Smackdown roster and the ECW compete with each other.

This show was awesome. I thought it slowed down a little in the 3rd hour, but the first two were insane. The ladder match had 3 "WOW" moments for me and Carlito was awesome in it.

As for Armageddon, I really really really would like to see Hardy go over H, but idk if its going to happen. It seems like if EVER there was a time to put Jeff over into "main event" status, its now over H. I think the rub that Hardy would get from this win far outweighs the rub that H would get.

What I think will happen, is Hardy wins at Armageddon, faces Orton at the Rumble, loses, and H faces Orton at WM24 (original... I know. But I think that's what we're headed for)

In the Wrestlemania thread, I talked about how Carlito isn't used to his potential. Monday's ladder match was how Carlito should be used. I love HHH but I do hope Jeff wins to put him in the main event status. There are a couple of wrestlers who I would love to see be main eventers-Jeff is probably the top one, and then Shelton. With Shelton's ability, he could be an awesome main eventer if given the potential.

Yeah Shelton is one of the best pure athletes in the WWE. The thing's that guy can do......wow.

I'm hoping that now that he is on ECW, he will become a main eventer there.

Definitely agree on Shelton. I remember when he was IC champ on Raw and he had awesome matches every week. Get him back up there!

I don't even recognize half of the wrestlers anymore. I quit watching shortly after WWE merged with WCW and ECW. As a matter of fact the last time I watched wrestling they were still going by the WWF.

I really miss the wrestlers of my childhood.

Demolition
Dino Bravo
The Strike Force
The Fabulous Rougeaus
Jake The Snake Roberts
Brutus The Barber Beefcake
The Rockers
Sting (surfer)
Bad News Brown
Iron Mike Sharp

I could go on and on

I remember the stuff he did during that one Money in the Bank match. Like running up the ladder. The guy (Shelton) is insane. I could see him and Carlito battling for title in a couple years. Shelton is the best pure athlete, and Carlito is one of the best entertainers.

Just buy the Wrestlemania 1-5 package. Every wrestler on that list is on there except for Sting and Iron Mike Sharp.

I know, and I am really showing my age by having that list.

My favorite matches are the Money in the Bank ladder matches at Wrestlemania-they are all great-especially when Shelton does all of his crazy stuff.
My dream match would be Jeff vs. Shelton vs. Carlito vs. three other athletes (maybe Matt Hardy, Edge, and Rey).That would make one hell of a ladder match.

And one of the Hardy's winning it. The Hardy's always seem to be in these matches but always ended up losing... There may be a few times they won it, but a majority of time, they end up the losers. (i.e. the TLC matches)

That's because they are the ones that do the crazy ass moves that make the matches memorable, but it hurts them. Like at WM 23, Jeff got hurt, although the stayed in the match, after he jumped off the big ladder onto Edge.

You'd think if they are the ones to make the match memorable, Vince would have the courtesy to make them the winners

I'm pretty sure I'm ordering Armageddon tomorrow. First PPV buy since Summerslam. The card looks pretty good I must say:

MVP vs REY MYSTERIO for the United States Title

CM PUNK & KANE vs BIG DADDY V & MARK HENRY

FINLAY vs THE GREAT KHALI

TRIPLE H vs JEFF HARDY in a #1 Contenders Match

BETH PHOENIX vs MICKIE JAMES for the Women's Title

SHAWN MICHAELS vs MR.KENNEDY

RANDY ORTON vs CHRIS JERICHO for the WWE Championship

BATISTA vs THE UNDERTAKER vs EDGE in a Triple-Threat Match for the World HeavyWeight Title

It does seem like a great PPV-the bold are the kind of matches I would want to see.

Anybody getting Armageddon? I am.

• WWE United States Championship: Montel Vontavious Porter. © vs. Rey Mysterio^[4]
• Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy ^[5]
  • The winner will receive a WWE Championship match at the 2008 Royal Rumble.
• Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy^[6]
• Finlay (w/Hornswoggle) vs. The Great Khali (w/Ranjin Singh) ^[7]
• WWE Women's Championship: Beth Phoenix © vs. Mickie James^[8]
• WWE Championship: Randy Orton © vs. Chris Jericho^[9]
• Triple Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Batista © vs. Edge vs. The Undertaker^[10]
• CM Punk and Kane vs. Big Daddy V. and Mark Henry^[11]

Spoilers:

MVP vs. Rey-a good match but there was one point in the match when Rey was jumping off the top rope and he messed up and hurt his knee. However, then he tried to do a splash off the rope but he couldn't stand so he jumped from the outside of the ring, landed his back on the rope, and did a flip onto MVP. MVP got counted out on purpose so he lost the match but retained the title.

Big Daddy V and Mark Henry vs. CM Punk and Kane-not a great match. CM Punk jumped off of the turnbuckle and Bid Daddy V cought him and turned it into a Samoan Drop for the victory.

HBK vs. Mr. Kennedy-a pretty good match. HBK was focusing on hurting Kennedy's hand. HBK eventually hit a great Sweet Chin Music for the win.

Jeff Hardy vs. HHH-this was a good match. HHH was agressive from the start and he got mad at Jeff when Jeff held back from punching HHH in the face. Jeff reversed a Pedigree into a cradle for the win. That is going to be a good main event at the Royle Rumble.

Finlay vs. the Great Khali-nothing too good happened until the end. Hornswoggle threw a shillelah into the ring for Finlay to use but the Great Khali made sure Finlay could not use it. While the ref was taking the shillelagh out of the ring, Hornswoggle came into the ring and low blowed Khali with a shillelah and then gave it to Finlay who hit Khali inthe face with it. Then he pinned him for the win.

Y2J vs. Orton-this was a good match. At one point, both men were out of the ring and Y2J was thrown into JBL. JBL was looking mad and it was obvious that something was going to happen. Eventually, Y2J had Orton in the middle of the ring in the Walls of Jericho but JBL came in and kicked Y2J in the head. Orton was disqualifed but he kept the title.

Mickie James vs. Beth Phoenix-a boring match that Beth Phoenix won.

Edge vs. Batista vs. Undertaker-this was good. Edge was hiding out of the ring while the other two were fighting. Eventually, Edge came in and got chokeslammed but it turned out it was a fake Edge and the real Edge was still outside the ring. Another fake Edge went in and got his ass kicked but Undertaker thought it was the real one. He Tombstoned Batista but the real Edge came in and hit Undertaker with a chair and pinned Batista for the win and for the title.

I didn't see it, but I'm guessing the HHH/Hardy match was the best?

It was, but the Batista, Undertaker, Edge match was also pretty good.

Cool, thanks man. Can't wait for Raw tonight. I'll for sure be ordering the Royal Rumble.

LOVED Armageddon. I went nuts when Jeff pinned HHH (HE GOT HIM!! HE GOT HIM!!). That was the match of the night for me. Awesome match psychology with H slapping Jeff and telling him to FIGHT! When Jeff mounted his flurry at the end, I figured H would catch him with the pedigree and it would be over. But much to my suprise Jeff pulled it out. Just AWESOME


I thought Jericho/Orton was a close 2nd, but unfortunately I clicked on a rumor/spoiler on accident before the ppv, so when I saw Jericho get thrown into JBL I already knew the ending and it ruined it for me. F'ing spoilers

Ah, the good old times.

The Royal Rumble is always awesome. It is as entertaining as sports entertainment gets, besides Wrestlemania.

I have no idea who could win the rumble. Likely choices right now are HHH, Batista, or the Undertaker.

Who do you think is going to face Edge for the title? Probably Batista because he will envoke his rematch clause. I would not be surprised if Lashley came back as the 30th entrant to win. He has been gone for a while and I didn't think his injury was too serious.

I have a feeling it'll be Taker vs Edge. And he finally loses at WM.

I have no idea about Raw. I'm rooting for a Hardy vs HHH re-match

I dont think they will ever do this. I think that will be his legacy and they will be building upon it IMO

My guess is Ric Flair, continues his win or retire angle and it leads to him losing and retiring at WM.

For what? Wrestlemania or Royal Rumble?


There is not chance Undertaker is losing at Wrestlemania-though, let me contradict myself. Nobody will be expecting it so I wouldn't be too surprised if he did lose.



His win or retire is only for single matches-Royal Rumble will not ocunt.

With all the BS wins at pay per views this year I wouldnt put it past them screwing over the Undertaker again.


I am not going to be purcahsing another payperview until maybe Wresltemania and that will probably be it. Can we have a title match one time without somebody getting the screw job?

Good point, I remembered that after I posted this and was to lazy to edit lol. It would have been a good angle though.