IM pretty new to the table, no reads. Sorry not converted, someone will have to tell me how to do that so i can convert in the future.

PokerStars Game #13767552069: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/10 - 06:12:09 (ET)
Table 'Hyperion' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Sanippaul ($70.35 in chips)
Seat 2: 8oggo8 ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 3: scorpion1807 ($37.55 in chips)
Seat 4: .dfm.dfm. ($104 in chips)
Seat 5: fitzinabox ($66.70 in chips)
Seat 6: jen7477 ($20 in chips)
.dfm.dfm.: posts small blind $0.50
fitzinabox: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fitzinabox [As Ts Kc Kh]
jen7477: calls $1
Sanippaul: raises $2 to $3
8oggo8: folds
scorpion1807: folds
.dfm.dfm.: folds
fitzinabox: raises $7.50 to $10.50
jen7477: folds
Sanippaul: calls $7.50
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2c 7s]
fitzinabox: bets $5
Sanippaul: calls $5
*** TURN *** [Jh 2c 7s] [Js]
fitzinabox: checks
Sanippaul: bets $30.95
fitzinabox: ??????

Wtf is with that horrid flop bet? Might as well fold the turn, as played.

Yeah, your flop bet really sucks here.

Turn is a pretty simple fold.

I shoved for 20$ more and he folded and then i ended up taking him for about 4 hundo =)

wtf is wrong with it? That's how i play, i hate committing myself to shitty hands unless i have it which i normally do when my money is going in.

1/4 pot lead out bet is pathetic. If you're going to do that, you might as well check.

meh, i prefer to value town rather to be lagtardish like most . . .. it's my style, its been treating me well, and im still learning. Yes it was weak, but think how much more money it made me in this hand. See, it gets people like you who think "omg that bet is so pathetic" to bluff at me like this guy did. Try higher level thinking for a change.

lol lol lol

Your $5 bet didn't induce the bluff, he flat called you there. You checked on the turn, THEN he bluffed.
Think of how much MORE money you'd have made if you'd bet $15 on the flop and he flat called, and THEN you checked and he bluffed in to you.
Higher level +1

seriously think outside the box for a change, they way u play doesnt always mean thats the ONLY way to play a given hand and make money off it nor does it make my plays 'pathetic'.
Ass

umm what makes u think hes going to call a 15$ bet on the flop if he is going to bet 30 on the turn and fold for 20 more, DUH

Omg, take a bit of a pill fitzy. I wasn't done typing, first of all, and really - lighten up. I make crap plays all the time. Even I can laugh at them.

90,000 hands of playing this game almost exclusively for the past 4 months. If he's calling $5 on the flop, he'll call $15 too. Charge people to draw against you.

I disagree, and there were no draws on this board eiher unless hes drawing for gutshot, 2 outting trips, ect.

89TT disagrees with you

OUCH, you got me there!!!!

If you were in position it would be better, but you're giving him awesome pot odds AND even more in implied odds to call.

Considering you check shoved on a TERRIBLE turn card, you're going broke if he turned a boat, or suppose the turn made him two pair or a straight. You're going broke there as well. Pot the flop and reduce his pot odds and implied odds to a minimum.

You HAVE to price out draws, especially if you're not going to fold when bad cards come. He plays any hand with a jack like this, and you got very lucky that he folded IMO.

It looks like you're still thinking from a NLHE background. It's what I had a problem with when I was learning, and it's a problem that crosses over into LHE and other games.

i play some/little plo but check/shoving that turn has got to be one of the worst plays i have ever seen. oh but you won 4 buyins so it must be the play




don't forget trips

it was pretty risky, luckily that guy was bad enough to be bluffing there which i later found out he was reaaally bad.


also, if that is the worst play u have ever seen then are either ignorant(which i assume is the case) or u just haven't played much poker in yuor lifetime.


If i suck so bad, then lets play head up big guy.

Simo is probably the only poster in this forum that i have any respect for anymore, at least he can respond with non-douchy comments and give helpful, insighful criticism

Wow, I didn't know this was the Omaha Poker for Women forum all of a sudden. Are we a touch sensitive today Fitzy?
I said your flop bet sucked, I stand by that analysis. I hope you don't write off advice cuz it's given in a jokingly "douchy" way. Geez man.
Simo said the same friggin thing that I did....I'll try to do it nicer, how's this?

Flop bet, could have been better.
Turn check/shove after flop bet, could have been better.

What's the difference between what he said initially and what I did??? You just got your back up towards me for some reason.

Yeah, I can say something sucks and people take it as a constructive comment. It's awesome.

It takes a while to perfect the method

Seriously though fitz, there aren't too many of us posting in here and as a result we all know and rip on each other. Your play in this hand just really sucked. Please don't take it personally. I can see where you're coming from with the line, but it's a line that isn't profitable in PLO. Betting small with KK there in NLHE is a fine play because you can induce a bluff and you can get value from a huge range. In PLO even a raggy hand with bottom pair will usually have 11 outs against you.

LOL what are you 5?

i don't play a ton of PLO admitted but I have played at least 20K hands of various forms during a month for 3 years so I think I play enough. I hardly if ever post in this forum and I will keep it that way so you can unbunch ur panties.

can you honestly justify how a C/Shove is anything but an absolute spew? never mind you don't have to as you will easily find out over time.

and of course i've seen worse plays my statement was obviously an exaggeration. maybe if you didn't come off as such a douche and justify you play by your short term results and treat bdc (who keeps this forum alive) like a douche then maybe i wouldn't come across as a douche to you. your very arrogant and definitely need humbled.

yes yes, sorry to bdc and sorry for jumpin down ur throat too krup24. I was life tilting at the time and was being pretty stupid i admit. Sorry to you both, i was an ass.

Edit: You guys are right about the play as well, it wasn't good.

Erm, I apologise if I contributed to that.

accepted i coulda been less harsh as well

Can't......we....all....(weeping pause)...just...(weep)...get...along????

[X] OP posts hand and then disagrees with opinions based on metagame information only he knows.

LOL at this thread.