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In3us
Live $1/2 game at Turningstone, 8- handed.
Hero is Cutoff with 22
Folds to hero (about 120 on table)
Hero limps, Button folds, Sb calls (about 70, tight-passive), BB checks (about 80, fairly TAG)
Pot: $6
Flop: Kx Jx 6x
Everyone checks
Turn: 2x
Everyone checks
River: 5x
SB checks, BB bets $4, Hero raises to $14, SB folds, BB shoves for another $65 or so
The BB has played fairly tight but has made a couple LAG plays post-flop when the action slows.
However, I feel like he wouldn't make a play here. 34, 55 or does he have a weak two pair?
Hero's play?
potatoman
I would have bet the turn. As played, I think you're beat. Maybe he has J5...but probably 34 or 55.
NoBBiR
All the X's indicate that the board is rainbow, or the whole thing is monotone?

If it's rainbow, insta-call. If you're beat, oh well, you're not folding a set for like 30bbs, ever.
In3us
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 4:21 PM) *
All the X's indicate that the board is rainbow, or the whole thing is monotone?

If it's rainbow, insta-call. If you're beat, oh well, you're not folding a set for like 30bbs, ever.


X's indicate a rainbow board
simo_8ball
Don't open limp from the CO.

Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.

I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.
In3us
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 4:28 PM) *
Don't open limp from the CO.

Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.

I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.


I agree, not betting the turn only gives them more of a chance to make a hand that beats me on the river as opposed to a hand that pays me off, but I made a greedy, donk check. icon_biggrin.gif
Zach6668
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Acid_Knight
This is close. Just decide if he needs a set or better to overshove on the river. If yes, then you have an easy fold. If no, then I'd obviously call.

He's not likely to be making a move, so just try and figure out what he feels is a big enough hand to shove here.
NoBBiR
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:40 PM) *
This is close. Just decide if he needs a set or better to overshove on the river. If yes, then you have an easy fold. If no, then I'd obviously call.

He's not likely to be making a move, so just try and figure out what he feels is a big enough hand to shove here.


The 1/2 games at TS are so bad that if this guy is a typical player, I would never fold this hand. Typical players at TS1/2 are the type to make this move with TPNK smile.gif If he has you beat, it's because you did not bet the turn when you made a strong hand.
El Guapo
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 2:32 PM) *
The 1/2 games at TS are so bad that if this guy is a typical player, I would never fold this hand. Typical players at TS1/2 are the type to make this move with TPNK smile.gif If he has you beat, it's because you did not bet the turn when you made a strong hand.


Although I have never been there I tend to agree with this post. he could have easily made 2 pair and thought it was a monster there and overbet to make it look like a bluff. Also as said before the only two realistic hands that have you beat are 34, 55.
antistuff
not betting that turn makes the baby jesus cry.
Dictius
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, December 6th, 2007, 8:28 AM) *
Don't open limp from the CO.

Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.

I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.



QFT
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