In3us
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 12:58 PM
Live $1/2 game at Turningstone, 8- handed.
Hero is Cutoff with 22
Folds to hero (about 120 on table)
Hero limps, Button folds, Sb calls (about 70, tight-passive), BB checks (about 80, fairly TAG)
Pot: $6
Flop: Kx Jx 6x
Everyone checks
Turn: 2x
Everyone checks
River: 5x
SB checks, BB bets $4, Hero raises to $14, SB folds, BB shoves for another $65 or so
The BB has played fairly tight but has made a couple LAG plays post-flop when the action slows.
However, I feel like he wouldn't make a play here. 34, 55 or does he have a weak two pair?
Hero's play?
potatoman
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:11 PM
I would have bet the turn. As played, I think you're beat. Maybe he has J5...but probably 34 or 55.
NoBBiR
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:21 PM
All the X's indicate that the board is rainbow, or the whole thing is monotone?
If it's rainbow, insta-call. If you're beat, oh well, you're not folding a set for like 30bbs, ever.
In3us
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:22 PM
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 4:21 PM)

All the X's indicate that the board is rainbow, or the whole thing is monotone?
If it's rainbow, insta-call. If you're beat, oh well, you're not folding a set for like 30bbs, ever.
X's indicate a rainbow board
simo_8ball
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:28 PM
Don't open limp from the CO.
Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.
I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.
In3us
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:30 PM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 4:28 PM)

Don't open limp from the CO.
Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.
I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.
I agree, not betting the turn only gives them more of a chance to make a hand that beats me on the river as opposed to a hand that pays me off, but I made a greedy, donk check.
Zach6668
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:34 PM
Welcome to the forums.
Acid_Knight
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:40 PM
This is close. Just decide if he needs a set or better to overshove on the river. If yes, then you have an easy fold. If no, then I'd obviously call.
He's not likely to be making a move, so just try and figure out what he feels is a big enough hand to shove here.
NoBBiR
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 2:32 PM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 1:40 PM)

This is close. Just decide if he needs a set or better to overshove on the river. If yes, then you have an easy fold. If no, then I'd obviously call.
He's not likely to be making a move, so just try and figure out what he feels is a big enough hand to shove here.
The 1/2 games at TS are so bad that if this guy is a typical player, I would never fold this hand. Typical players at TS1/2 are the type to make this move with TPNK

If he has you beat, it's because you did not bet the turn when you made a strong hand.
El Guapo
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 2:36 PM
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 2:32 PM)

The 1/2 games at TS are so bad that if this guy is a typical player, I would never fold this hand. Typical players at TS1/2 are the type to make this move with TPNK

If he has you beat, it's because you did not bet the turn when you made a strong hand.
Although I have never been there I tend to agree with this post. he could have easily made 2 pair and thought it was a monster there and overbet to make it look like a bluff. Also as said before the only two realistic hands that have you beat are 34, 55.
antistuff
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 3:29 PM
not betting that turn makes the baby jesus cry.
Dictius
Wednesday, December 5th, 2007, 3:41 PM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, December 6th, 2007, 8:28 AM)

Don't open limp from the CO.
Bet the turn. You have to build a pot at some point, and you may as well build it now.
I don't know if I call the river shove or not. Bet the turn.
QFT
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