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David_Nicoson
Suppose you have a 10 million dollar bankroll and want to play HSP.
  1. How much would you want to buy-in for?
    (I don't know what the rules are. Pick what you'd like.)
    Cover Gold? Short-stack it to punish the preflop transgressions of Farha?
  2. Where do you want to position yourself?
    Think about who is key and which side you want to be on.
  3. What's your general approach?
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 1:54 PM) *
Suppose you have a 10 million dollar bankroll and want to play HSP.
  1. How much would you want to buy-in for?
    (I don't know what the rules are. Pick what you'd like.)
    Cover Gold? Short-stack it to punish the preflop transgressions of Farha?
  2. Where do you want to position yourself?
    Think about who is key and which side you want to be on.
  3. What's your general approach?


$10 million BR? I'd buy the standard amount -- I wouldn't short-stack.
Who's playing? I want to be to the left of PA and EL if they're playing.
Sheiky
I'd buy in for the minimum so i could play a more PF orientated game and not have to worry about getting outplayed or bullied out of hands post flop.

I'd like to have PA, Ivey, Helmuth and Harman to my right and Sammy, Gold and the ameatur guys on my left.
Acid_Knight
I'd buyin for all $10,000,000 but I'd keep it in a cashier's check and I'd rip off little pieces when I need to call or raise.
I'd keep 2 stacks of $5 chips to toke the dealers and the large-breasted cocktail waitresses.
I'd sit to the left of Farha/Elezra/PA and I wouldn't care where Gold was.
I'd just reraise Farha everytime he opened the pot and I'd LRR Gold AI everytime he bet.
I think this style would be high variance.
pdr87
QUOTE (Sheiky @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 11:28 PM) *
I'd buy in for the minimum so i could play a more PF orientated game and not have to worry about getting outplayed or bullied out of hands post flop.

I'd like to have PA, Ivey, Helmuth and Harman to my right and Sammy, Gold and the ameatur guys on my left.



Why would you have Gold and Sammy on your left!?
NoBBiR
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 3:42 PM) *
I'd buyin for all $10,000,000 but I'd keep it in a cashier's check and I'd rip off little pieces when I need to call or raise.
I'd keep 2 stacks of $5 chips to toke the dealers and the large-breasted cocktail waitresses.
I'd sit to the left of Farha/Elezra/PA and I wouldn't care where Gold was.
I'd just reraise Farha everytime he opened the pot and I'd LRR Gold AI everytime he bet.
I think this style would be high variance.


*Pshaw*, Variance, I fear thee not.

Just buy in for 200,000k and play like Bob Stupak. Aces and Kings only and shove any flop, but talk a big game, and fold under pressure like a tent in a hurricane.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 3:42 PM) *
I'd buyin for all $10,000,000 but I'd keep it in a cashier's check and I'd rip off little pieces when I need to call or raise.
I'd keep 2 stacks of $5 chips to toke the dealers and the large-breasted cocktail waitresses.

I'd sit to the left of Farha/Elezra/PA and I wouldn't care where Gold was.
I'd just reraise Farha everytime he opened the pot and I'd LRR Gold AI everytime he bet.

I think this style would be high variance.


LOL.

LOL.

LOL.

If everyone had $300,000 to $500,000 on the table and I sat with $10,000,000, this is the way I'd play. It's massive fun to have the serious big stack.
No_Neck
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 7:23 PM) *
*Pshaw*, Variance, I fear thee not.

Just buy in for 200,000k and play like Bob Stupak. Aces and Kings only and shove any flop, but talk a big game, and fold under pressure like a tent in a hurricane.



Bob Stupak is the my hero.
David_Nicoson
I buy in enough to cover Gold and put Greenstein on my right.
tskillz187
I get nervous playing 5-10NL. The money gets to me. I can't even imagine playing this without wanting to cry and tellboxing all the time, hands shaking etc.
Naismith
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 6:18 PM) *
I buy in enough to cover Gold and put Greenstein on my right.


I certainly understand the logic to the first part, but wouldn't you be concerned that the big buy in would just make you a target for the better players?

I'd buy in short and sit to Farha's right.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Naismith @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 10:53 PM) *
I certainly understand the logic to the first part, but wouldn't you be concerned that the big buy in would just make you a target for the better players?

I'd buy in short and sit to Farha's right.

What better players? cool.gif
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 8:01 PM) *
What better players? cool.gif

+Eleventy Brazillion
Naismith
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 8:01 PM) *
What better players? cool.gif


Better than Gold, I meant. smile.gif
Pot Odds RAC
My Strategy would be to admit that a huge disposable Bank Roll doesn't make anyone a better player and stay away from the game before donking off my money to the real Pros.

Too many people think that the only difference between an average player and a Pro is Bankroll.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 8:14 AM) *
My Strategy would be to admit that a huge disposable Bank Roll doesn't make anyone a better player and stay away from the game before donking off my money to the real Pros.

Too many people think that the only difference between an average player and a Pro is Bankroll.

I think the key here is that two of the players in the 500k game weren't really pros. I think the game would be +EV for me.
Andromeda
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 9:27 PM) *
I get nervous playing 5-10NL. The money gets to me. I can't even imagine playing this without wanting to cry and tellboxing all the time, hands shaking etc.



same here...

could I stake someone instead???
NoBBiR
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 5:30 AM) *
I think the key here is that two of the players in the 500k game weren't really pros. I think the game would be +EV for me.


The Guy vs. Doyle hand from last night makes me think I could play like a moron and still win money in that game.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 9:06 AM) *
The Guy vs. Doyle hand from last night makes me think I could play like a moron and still win money in that game.

Doyle folds if he didn't pick up the flush draw, I think. I'm not sure how he was thinking about it, but it's almost a pure bluff. I think he's usually drawing to 3 outs when he gets called.
Craigdog
fold fold fold fold fold fold fold ... AA all-in
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 8:43 AM) *
same here...

could I stake someone instead???

You can stake NoBBiR.
NoBBiR
I'm not really sure why Doyle bet the turn, I guess he figured Guy was calling pretty light because he just doesn't care about the money and figured there was a pretty big chance he had way the best of it. But I think I would have checked and taken the freecard and called most river bets from Guy.

After Doyle bet 110k though, he's never folding, so Guy is just an idiot. If Guy had any skill at all (with his infinite bankroll) he'd be the most fearless/feared player ever. Christ, he could read NL Strat on FCP and play a half assed game and be 10x better than he is now.

EDIT: Now that I rewatch it, Doyle's instacall of Guy after the 200 raise is sick. He's pretty much pot committed, but he still instacalled, that's just gross.

QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 6:55 AM) *
You can stake NoBBiR.


That would be cool; But please note though, I am prone to losing my winnings at strip clubs and Starbucks. I lead a very expensive lifestyle for an unemployed undergraduate community college student.
dms26
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 6:42 PM) *
I'd buyin for all $10,000,000 but I'd keep it in a cashier's check and I'd rip off little pieces when I need to call or raise.


Does anyone else think the bricks of money laying on the table looks annoying and ridiculous or it just me?


I think they should do IOU's dumb and dumber style.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (dms26 @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 9:43 AM) *
Does anyone else think the bricks of money laying on the table looks annoying and ridiculous or it just me?
I think they should do IOU's dumb and dumber style.

Yeah, it's pretty dumb, but it's for the cameras. I think $5000 and $25000 chips are way more badass than bundles of hundred dollar bills any day.
Jadaki
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 8:18 PM) *
I buy in enough to cover Gold and put Greenstein on my right.


I like keeping Barry on the right, but enough to cover Gold wouldn't really matter to me.
Naismith
Doyle insta-called the all in there. I don't care what he tried to say about tilt or being card-dead or whatever. He put his money in the second Guy raised because he was relatively certain he was ahad.
dms26
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 12:56 PM) *
I think $5000 and $25000 chips are way more badass than bundles of hundred dollar bills any day.


I agree
dscoot
i would play super-super tight and book a small win maybe up to 100k if things went nicely. i think they would pay u off eventually bc they are on tv and perhaps too proud to play your tight style, maybe coming after u a little weakly, thus giving you the edge . you wouldnt break the game playing like this, but telling your friends u booked a winning session might be priceless.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (dscoot @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 10:30 AM) *
i would play super-super tight and book a small win maybe up to 100k if things went nicely. i think they would pay u off eventually bc they are on tv and perhaps too proud to play your tight style, maybe coming after u a little weakly, thus giving you the edge . you wouldnt break the game playing like this, but telling your friends u booked a winning session might be priceless.



Where's that link from the dude who was on the show for a little bit, but wasn't invited back because he gave so little action .... ?

Oh, and BTW, I found this for whoever was looking for the buy in:

Putting the 'High' in 'High Stakes Poker'
Posted by Josh Slagter | The Grand Rapids Press November 04, 2007 16:20PM
Categories: Television
Normally, the minimum buy-in to sit down on GSN's "High Stakes Poker" is $100,000.

The popular televised cash game, which attracts the game's top players, as well as some wealthy amateurs, raised its stakes for the final six episodes of this season, starting with Monday's 9 p.m. episode.

Players were required to buy in for $500,000, which will put a cool $4 million in play at the eight-handed table. Those sitting down: Doyle Brunson, Sammy Farha, David Benyamine, Barry Greenstein, Antonio Esfandiari, Jamie Gold, Patrik Antonious and Guy Laliberte.

At the end of last week's episode, the preview for this week included a clip of Brunson saying, "There's only one person who's comfortable playing at these stakes, and that's Guy."

Laliberte does have a World Poker Tour final table to his credit, but he's much more famous for being a co-founder of Cirque du Soleil, an entertainment empire that performs around the world, including Las Vegas.

Laliberte aside, I've got to think that Doyle's on to something and we actually could see some players uncomfortable at the table.

Antonious and Benyamine regularly play online at ultra high stakes, so they should be the coolest under pressure. Farha has spent the past few weeks getting stuck on the regular episodes, so there's no reason why that shouldn't continue here -- it'll just cost him more. And I'd bet Esfandiari has a backer or two, most likely his good buddy Phil Laak.

When "High Stakes Poker" first started, a $30,000 pot was met with awe by announcers AJ Benza and Gabe Kaplan. Now, it's common to get that much money in the middle before seeing the flop. And, starting this week, it's about to get even crazier.

E-mail Josh Slagter: jslagter@grpress.com
CobaltBlue
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Monday, November 26th, 2007, 8:27 PM) *
I get nervous playing 5-10NL. The money gets to me. I can't even imagine playing this without wanting to cry and tellboxing all the time, hands shaking etc.

The trick is to have your hands shake all the time. Anyone decent knows that hands shaking means big hand...which means they fold. And you can't lose if you're never called. =)
dscoot
QUOTE (dscoot @ Tuesday, November 27th, 2007, 10:30 AM) *
i would play super-super tight and book a small win maybe up to 100k if things went nicely. i think they would pay u off eventually bc they are on tv and perhaps too proud to play your tight style, maybe coming after u a little weakly, thus giving you the edge . you wouldnt break the game playing like this, but telling your friends u booked a winning session might be priceless.



Oh yeah I might have to wine and dine benza and kaplan after the game so they dont call me out for being a nit in their commentary.
ROBBBIGG
normal buy-in

ideally itd be gold, farha, me, everyone else

i'd play tight and mine for sets

i'd then be kicked off after that day for being a nit
NoBBiR
QUOTE (ROBBBIGG @ Saturday, December 1st, 2007, 9:16 AM) *
normal buy-in

ideally itd be gold, farha, me, everyone else

i'd play tight and mine for sets

i'd then be kicked off after that day for being a nit


I think it's funny that they kicked off sbrugby, even though he was fairly loose, and in his place brought back hellmuth, the biggest nit ever, who takes up half of every episode he's in getting insurance.
ROBBBIGG
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Saturday, December 1st, 2007, 1:12 PM) *
I think it's funny that they kicked off sbrugby, even though he was fairly loose, and in his place brought back hellmuth, the biggest nit ever, who takes up half of every episode he's in getting insurance.


omgclayaiken (jman, phil galfond) was booted after being told he was going to get another day. he only got to see 20 some hands because phil was being so obnoxious and took up all the time.
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