dingas
Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 9:24 PM
Early in a 3.25 turbo 45-player sng. Blinds 15-30.
I am 2nd UTG and I open AKo for 150. My strategy early in these tournaments is to only play premium hands outside of lp and blinds, and to make big raises with them. Others might disagree, but this is what works for me.
Anyway, 2 people call the 150 and then the bb goes all in for 1500. What's my play?
StupidKid
Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 10:24 PM
INSTACALL/RESHOVE IMO.
mk
Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 10:37 PM
lol @ folding
trystero
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 3:39 AM
Instacall
There are times to fold AK pf in an SNG, but a turbo isn't one of them. Generally you'll need to witness extremely heavy preflop action in an early level.
StupidKid
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 5:09 AM
I think folding AKo+ and QQ+ preflop (excluding poss some bubble scenarios) in a 45man $3 turbo sng is a leak.
simo_8ball
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 5:12 AM
Erm, yeah. What they said.
pdr87
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 5:16 AM
The shove from bb looks smells a little fishy, but he's very likely to have a pair. I'm not taking a coinflip this early, whats the point? Fold.
TravisG
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 6:48 AM
QUOTE (pdr87 @ Friday, November 16th, 2007, 2:16 PM)

The shove from bb looks smells a little fishy, but he's very likely to have a pair. I'm not taking a coinflip this early, whats the point? Fold.
you have to take coinflips to win anyway. why take coinflips with AQ later when you cant take them with ak now? a double up will give you more room to collect chips.
jjgoldy5
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 7:28 AM
People are too dumb to fold AK preflop.
Take this hand for instance - 39$ turbo SNG.
EP limps, I raise to 4x (blinds at 25/50), player behind me reraises to 500.
I shove AK for 1k more. He insta calls and tables AT.... I tell myself I'm never folding AK preflop in these tournies against one villain.
StupidKid
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 7:59 AM
QUOTE (TravisG @ Friday, November 16th, 2007, 2:48 PM)

you have to take coinflips to win anyway. why take coinflips with AQ later when you cant take them with ak now? a double up will give you more room to collect chips.
There is also t300+ in the pot already.
Shove.
Win.
Do this
pdr87
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 3:50 PM
Thought this was a 9 man. In that case it is a reshove. No point in a 9-man though imo.
Buckeye Hughes
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 4:38 PM
QUOTE (jjgoldy5 @ Friday, November 16th, 2007, 7:28 AM)

People are too dumb to fold AK preflop.
Take this hand for instance - 39$ turbo SNG.
EP limps, I raise to 4x (blinds at 25/50), player behind me reraises to 500.
I shove AK for 1k more. He insta calls and tables AT.... I tell myself I'm never folding AK preflop in these tournies against one villain.
I've seen so many people reshove with Ax in these. Usually I get a table with about 4 RKIGS. Never would I fold in the OP's position.
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
copernicus
Monday, November 19th, 2007, 2:51 PM
Fold. Youre "racing" from behind with a minimum of one and probably more of your outs sitting in the callers hands. You would much rather be a mid to high pair in this situation than AK.
Each dead A or K shifts 5% of your equity away to the pair, so with 2 dead ones you are a 2:1 dog.
LJB723
Monday, November 19th, 2007, 3:11 PM
I had a similar scenario to the OP, sorry can't get hand history.
180+ man MTT £2+.20. Not sure how many left ~100
Blinds are 150/300 25ante
Hero is LP with AdKd
Folded to MP1 who pushes for ~7000
MP2 instacalls for around the same
Hero, with a stack of also around 7000, ?
I have the CO, button, and blinds still to act, two players all-in and the potential to triple up. Is this an instacall? A tank/call? Fold? I get to see both cards anyway, and if the winner tables something like 55, surely I'll get a spot to take all his chips?
Or do we want to be playing AK v 2 opponents?
copernicus
Monday, November 19th, 2007, 6:22 PM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Monday, November 19th, 2007, 7:11 PM)

I had a similar scenario to the OP, sorry can't get hand history.
180+ man MTT £2+.20. Not sure how many left ~100
Blinds are 150/300 25ante
Hero is LP with AdKd
Folded to MP1 who pushes for ~7000
MP2 instacalls for around the same
Hero, with a stack of also around 7000, ?
I have the CO, button, and blinds still to act, two players all-in and the potential to triple up. Is this an instacall? A tank/call? Fold? I get to see both cards anyway, and if the winner tables something like 55, surely I'll get a spot to take all his chips?
Or do we want to be playing AK v 2 opponents?
Again, I think its a fold. Against Ax and a pair you only have about 37%-40% equity. Against 2 different pairs you only have about 38% equity. The only hands you love to be against is when you dominate both of them, and thats awfully rare with Ms around 10. I dont think the small equity edge here is worth risking the tourney. This is one of those Phil Hellmuth folds from the other thread. Again you want to be the pair in these situations...even 55 ties your equity if the 3rd player has an A or K.
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