I'm looking for someone who has had some serious tournament experience and would be willing to take a serious look at a few hand histories to either reinforce the way I am playing or give me a new perspective. My confidence in my late-game play has been shot to hell.
Last night I final tabled the $3r. Came into the final table with roughly 800k chips and sitting 7th of 9. I chip up a bit to 900k ish, and get JJ in my big blind. Everyone folds to SB who shoves in his 2M stack. I insta call and he has AA?? GG me, adios 5k payday, out in 9th place for $377. Obviously, I'm not playing this hand any differently ever, but I'm wondering if I should have built a bigger stack earlier to absorb this beat through stealing / shoving more or taking more gambles. This has been soooo standard for me lately, and I really cannot take it anymore.
In the last month or so I've played MAYBE 15 $3 rebuy tournaments on PokerStars.
These tournaments have roughly 2600-2700 people in them and I have 3 final tables and one 10th place finish (bubble boy)
Of the final tables I finished 9th ALL THREE TIMES. Thats right, I have been the first one out of the final table 3 times and bubbled it once. This is a big deal since my bankroll would be doubled by a single 2nd place finish in one of these.
Anyways, if anyone would be willing to offer a serious analysis of my late-game play, I would appreciate it greatly!
Signed,
IfIBubbleAnotherBigPayDayIWillGoOnPermaLifeF***ingTilt.
Full Version: Looking For Some Help With Late Tourney Play
QUOTE (jjgoldy5 @ Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 9:47 PM) 
I'm looking for someone who has had some serious tournament experience and would be willing to take a serious look at a few hand histories to either reinforce the way I am playing or give me a new perspective. My confidence in my late-game play has been shot to hell.
Last night I final tabled the $3r. Came into the final table with roughly 800k chips and sitting 7th of 9. I chip up a bit to 900k ish, and get JJ in my big blind. Everyone folds to SB who shoves in his 2M stack. I insta call and he has AA?? GG me, adios 5k payday, out in 9th place for $377. Obviously, I'm not playing this hand any differently ever, but I'm wondering if I should have built a bigger stack earlier to absorb this beat through stealing / shoving more or taking more gambles.
Last night I final tabled the $3r. Came into the final table with roughly 800k chips and sitting 7th of 9. I chip up a bit to 900k ish, and get JJ in my big blind. Everyone folds to SB who shoves in his 2M stack. I insta call and he has AA?? GG me, adios 5k payday, out in 9th place for $377. Obviously, I'm not playing this hand any differently ever, but I'm wondering if I should have built a bigger stack earlier to absorb this beat through stealing / shoving more or taking more gambles.
Haha, well, building a bigger stack is always a help, but i don't think not being the chip leader into the FT every single time is a leak.
I have no late tourney experience and i've done pretty crap so far, but i would really like to look over some of your hand histories(seeing as it'll probably help my game more than yours). Any advice i give probably won't be the best, but i'd still be willing to try.
And don't get so annoyed, you're a sick player and yes maybe your endgame could be better, but you could easily have played those 3 situations perfectly and still bubbled due to the bastard of variance. Don't go all BKiCE on us please!!!.
QUOTE (Sheiky @ Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 4:58 PM)
Haha, well, building a bigger stack is always a help, but i don't think not being the chip leader into the FT every single time is a leak.
I have no late tourney experience and i've done pretty crap so far, but i would really like to look over some of your hand histories(seeing as it'll probably help my game more than yours). Any advice i give probably won't be the best, but i'd still be willing to try.
And don't get so annoyed, you're a sick player and yes maybe your endgame could be better, but you could easily have played those 3 situations perfectly and still bubbled due to the bastard of variance. Don't go all BKiCE on us please!!!.
I have no late tourney experience and i've done pretty crap so far, but i would really like to look over some of your hand histories(seeing as it'll probably help my game more than yours). Any advice i give probably won't be the best, but i'd still be willing to try.
And don't get so annoyed, you're a sick player and yes maybe your endgame could be better, but you could easily have played those 3 situations perfectly and still bubbled due to the bastard of variance. Don't go all BKiCE on us please!!!.
Ha, I'm happy to share my hh's.
Register with PokerXFactor - its free and you can watch these. Let me know if you have any insight or questions on why I did what I did (I might not have a good reason lol)
$3r I:
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA89244/18150_...09_124924/18150
$3r II:
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA94002/18150_...31_024522/18150
$44 SH NLHE (again first one out of final table)
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA94663/18150_...03_135820/18150
I already have a free account so i'm right on it.
Looking at the last 70 hands of the first one-
Hand 423 - I would raise there with AJo UTG at an 8 player table.
Hand 424 - That's the right call, but it's gay you had to double someone up in that spot
Hand 435 - Still trying to find things to comment on, all in is the right play there
Hand 436 - See above heh
Hand 438 - I'd be tempted to raise there, but not sure if that's good or not
Hand 444 - Would be tempted to raise again
Hand 449 - OTT BB raises suck balls
Hand 455 - I'm not sure about folding here, i think your hand is well ahead of his raising range and he's been moderately active so far
Hand 470 - Bad move, the queen is coming 98% of the time on the flop, we both know it so that should be an easy muck.
There's nothing wrong at all from those 70 hands imo, you played it fine but the situations were against you, another day and this is so easily your tournament.
Will look at the others tommorow
Hand 423 - I would raise there with AJo UTG at an 8 player table.
Hand 424 - That's the right call, but it's gay you had to double someone up in that spot
Hand 435 - Still trying to find things to comment on, all in is the right play there
Hand 436 - See above heh
Hand 438 - I'd be tempted to raise there, but not sure if that's good or not
Hand 444 - Would be tempted to raise again
Hand 449 - OTT BB raises suck balls
Hand 455 - I'm not sure about folding here, i think your hand is well ahead of his raising range and he's been moderately active so far
Hand 470 - Bad move, the queen is coming 98% of the time on the flop, we both know it so that should be an easy muck.
There's nothing wrong at all from those 70 hands imo, you played it fine but the situations were against you, another day and this is so easily your tournament.
Will look at the others tommorow
QUOTE (Sheiky @ Thursday, November 15th, 2007, 5:39 PM)
Looking at the last 70 hands of the first one-
Hand 423 - I would raise there with AJo UTG at an 8 player table.
Hand 424 - That's the right call, but it's gay you had to double someone up in that spot
Hand 435 - Still trying to find things to comment on, all in is the right play there
Hand 436 - See above heh
Hand 438 - I'd be tempted to raise there, but not sure if that's good or not
Hand 444 - Would be tempted to raise again
Hand 449 - OTT BB raises suck balls
Hand 455 - I'm not sure about folding here, i think your hand is well ahead of his raising range and he's been moderately active so far
Hand 470 - Bad move, the queen is coming 98% of the time on the flop, we both know it so that should be an easy muck.
There's nothing wrong at all from those 70 hands imo, you played it fine but the situations were against you, another day and this is so easily your tournament.
Will look at the others tommorow
Hand 423 - I would raise there with AJo UTG at an 8 player table.
Hand 424 - That's the right call, but it's gay you had to double someone up in that spot
Hand 435 - Still trying to find things to comment on, all in is the right play there
Hand 436 - See above heh
Hand 438 - I'd be tempted to raise there, but not sure if that's good or not
Hand 444 - Would be tempted to raise again
Hand 449 - OTT BB raises suck balls
Hand 455 - I'm not sure about folding here, i think your hand is well ahead of his raising range and he's been moderately active so far
Hand 470 - Bad move, the queen is coming 98% of the time on the flop, we both know it so that should be an easy muck.
There's nothing wrong at all from those 70 hands imo, you played it fine but the situations were against you, another day and this is so easily your tournament.
Will look at the others tommorow
423 - I hate AJ OOP on the flop. With that said, an UTG raise looks strong here and I can raise / fold to any reraise since AJo is clearly the bottom of my UTG raising range. Raising is probably fine here - decided to take the conservative approach.
438/444 - I could see that, maybe these are the kinds of hands i should be more aggro with to pick up blinds/antes
449 - yeah
455 - I think there were 10 people left and I really didnt want to bubble the final table again (as I had only a couple of days before). I knowingly tightened up on the bubble for this very reason. You are right though, this is a shove.
470 - clearly should be insta folding this preflop.
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