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dscoot
do u think she was referring to herself and other pro's who might play a tougher competition at higher stakes?

60pct win/loss rate seems a little low to me.

anyone know any figures on win loss percentages of good players?

in mostly full ring games i suppose sometimes down to 6 handed.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (dscoot @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 2:01 PM) *
do u think she was referring to herself and other pro's who might play a tougher competition at higher stakes?

60pct win/loss rate seems a little low to me.

anyone know any figures on win loss percentages of good players?

in mostly full ring games i suppose sometimes down to 6 handed.


On the face of it, "session win percentage" would seem pretty meaningless.
Moneyball16
Brain Townsend has said that he wins something like 57% of his sessions.

Ive won probably over 75% of my sessions at 1/2 and 5/5 NL live, but that may be variance and those games are just very juicy.

To be honest tracking how many sessions you win or lose is a waste of time. You could theoretically lose alot more sessions than you win and still be a winning player.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 2:34 PM) *
To be honest tracking how many sessions you win or lose is a waste of time. You could theoretically lose alot more sessions than you win and still be a winning player.



Gus. They say Gus doesn't win as many sessions as the other pros, but when he does, he makes up for all the losses in one night. It's easy to see that's true, because of his style.
Acid_Knight
Townsend plays mostly HU and some 6 max. Much higher variance there. You can easily win 75% of your FR cash sessions if you play fairly tight. Overall, 60% is reasonable for most good winning 6 max players I'd think.
dscoot
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 2:21 PM) *
On the face of it, "session win percentage" would seem pretty meaningless.




well clonie obviously might not think so as she mentioned this in some article
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (dscoot @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 6:35 PM) *
well clonie obviously might not think so as she mentioned this in some article

OK. She's wrong.
simo_8ball
Billy plays every weeknight. His sessions go as follows:

Session 1: -$2,300
Session 2: -$5,700
Session 3: -$1,200
Session 4: +$45,500
Session 5: -$2,600

Billy only has a 20% session winrate. He doesn't give a rats ass.
MinhLyFan
I think barry g said something just like this as well... that he wins %60 of his sessions or a winning player does I cannot recall one of those two.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 3:37 PM) *
OK. She's wrong.


Thanks.

QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 3:41 PM) *
Billy plays every weeknight. His sessions go as follows:

Session 1: -$2,300
Session 2: -$5,700
Session 3: -$1,200
Session 4: +$45,500
Session 5: -$2,600

Billy only has a 20% session winrate. He doesn't give a rats ass.


Yep.

QUOTE (MinhLyFan @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 3:57 PM) *
I think barry g said something just like this as well... that he wins %60 of his sessions or a winning player does I cannot recall one of those two.


I think a discussion very similar to this went on for a week in general this summer.
KoRnholio
QUOTE (MinhLyFan @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 5:57 PM) *
I think barry g said something just like this as well... that he wins %60 of his sessions or a winning player does I cannot recall one of those two.


Yeah in Ace on the River he said that in his lifetime he has won something like 58% of his limit holdem sessions and 70% of his NL holdem sessions.
Moneyball16
barry's advice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clonies advice
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 7:53 PM) *
barry's advice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clonies advice

Oh yeah, how many times has he been Miss Teen Oklahoma? Huh? Huh?
simo_8ball
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, November 13th, 2007, 12:56 AM) *
Oh yeah, how many times has he been Miss Teen Oklahoma? Huh? Huh?

Twi....oh wait, this is one of them rhetorical thingies.
No_Neck
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, November 12th, 2007, 10:25 PM) *
Twi....oh wait, this is one of them rhetorical thingies.



just looking at the date in your sig, then I realized that you crazy Euros do everything backwards and it makes sense.

Also December 11th is the greatest day of the year icon_biggrin.gif
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