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Sal Paradise
yep, they're great, but only if you can, you know, FIND AMMO for them. you ever get yours that you ordered?
hank213
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Thursday, May 21st, 2009, 6:00 PM) *
yep, they're great, but only if you can, you know, FIND AMMO for them. you ever get yours that you ordered?

not yet. but the eta was something ridiculous like 6 weeks or more.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (hank213 @ Thursday, May 21st, 2009, 8:40 PM) *
not yet. but the eta was something ridiculous like 6 weeks or more.

well, good luck. I checked my regular site last night and things might be starting to turn around as they were starting to get a little more stock of the really really expensive stuff and the ridiculously cheap stuff. might mean production has been ramped up to meet demand finally. it'll probably still be crazy expensive for the next few months though.
ajs510
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Friday, May 22nd, 2009, 5:36 AM) *
well, good luck. I checked my regular site last night and things might be starting to turn around as they were starting to get a little more stock of the really really expensive stuff and the ridiculously cheap stuff. might mean production has been ramped up to meet demand finally. it'll probably still be crazy expensive for the next few months though.


Ammo companies have been working 3 shifts to meet demand since January, those shipments are now starting to reach retailers.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Friday, May 22nd, 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Ammo companies have been working 3 shifts to meet demand since January, those shipments are now starting to reach retailers.

yay!



seriously, I hadn't heard this and it makes me exceedingly happy. can somebody call springfield arms and get them to do the same? lazy fucks.
El Guapo
I have an old .22 sprigfild rifle from when I was a kid. It has a 5 shot clip much like this. I have had it in a buddies gun safe for years because I don't know how/where to get a replacement clip or possibly a banana clip instead. The springs on the clip are shot.




Any ideas?
hank213
Guap, get me a model# and I'll see what I can find. I think we have a gun show or two in the area in the next few months so I'll keep my eyes open. There's also a gunsmith not too far from my house that might be able to turn something up.
El Guapo
QUOTE (hank213 @ Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 12:46 PM) *
Guap, get me a model# and I'll see what I can find. I think we have a gun show or two in the area in the next few months so I'll keep my eyes open. There's also a gunsmith not too far from my house that might be able to turn something up.



OK I will have to talk to my buddy and see if he can look at it. I have not even looked at the gun in probably 3 or 4 years.
El Guapo
I just got this in an e mail, I have no idea if it is true, but it's funny.

QUOTE
Barack Obama at a recent rural elementary school assembly in East Texas, asked the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to
slowly clap his hands once every few seconds, holding the audience in total silence.

Then he said into the microphone, 'Children, every time I clap my hands together, a child in America dies from gun violence.'

Then, little Richard Earl, with a proud East Texas drawl, pierced the quiet and said: ''Well, dumbass, stop clapping!'


Also, if he clapped once every 10 seconds, that would put children deaths from gunfire in the U.S. at 140,000 per year. A quick google search said there was a total of 30,000 deaths by guns last year in the U.S. and over half were suicide.

ajs510
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Thursday, July 9th, 2009, 1:35 PM) *
I just got this in an e mail, I have no idea if it is true, but it's funny.

Also, if he clapped once every 10 seconds, that would put children deaths from gunfire in the U.S. at 140,000 per year. A quick google search said there was a total of 30,000 deaths by guns last year in the U.S. and over half were suicide.


3,218 gun deaths in 2006 for youths under the age of 19, according to the Brady Center.

1,940 of those were homicides in the 15-19 age bracket, we can use common sense to determine that gang and drug violence drove those numbers up.

That leaves 1278 total deaths for persons under 19 years old, and 763 of those were suicides. 515 deaths not "covered" by the filtering process above (obviously I know that a percentage of the 15-19 year olds killed by guns weren't on drugs or in gangs, but you don't jump from 175 homicides in the 10-14 bracket to 1,940 homicides without taking that into account in a big way).

4 times as many kids under 14 years old (approximately 2000) were killed in car accidents last year, and 250,000 were injured.

We have a much bigger media problem in this country than we do a gun problem. Gun violence is a sexy story that always gets a read or a click, and that's why you hear so much about it, not because there's statistically any greater chance that your kid will get killed that way. Sensationalist journalism.

Want to protect your kid? Teach him/her to swim, because it's statistically 10 times more likely that he or she will die of drowning.
hank213
Went shooting this weekend with a guy from work. Shot his Ruger .357. Been a long time since I shot one, forgot about the recoil on those puppies. Really liked the Ruger though, felt good in the hand and shot well with it.

I thought I'd shoot like crap given how long it's been since I last went but my first clip I landed 75% in the 10 or X ring and the other 25% were in the 9 ring.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (hank213 @ Monday, July 27th, 2009, 2:02 PM) *
Went shooting this weekend with a guy from work. Shot his Ruger .357. Been a long time since I shot one, forgot about the recoil on those puppies. Really liked the Ruger though, felt good in the hand and shot well with it.

I thought I'd shoot like crap given how long it's been since I last went but my first clip I landed 75% in the 10 or X ring and the other 25% were in the 9 ring.



yeah, but where you holding two of them, each one parallel to the ground? I thought not, fag.
hank213
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Monday, July 27th, 2009, 1:09 PM) *
yeah, but where you holding two of them, each one parallel to the ground? I thought not, fag.

No. But I was wearing my grill.
chrozzo
BOOM!

thats the point!



you never know..you never know
ajs510
QUOTE (chrozzo @ Tuesday, July 28th, 2009, 12:07 AM) *
BOOM!

thats the point!

you never know..you never know


You missed me. You are a truly awful shot.
El Guapo
This was just e mailed to me. Pretty much everyone sucks at what they are trying to accomplish in this video, but it's interesting.

An Unlikely Hero
Sal Paradise
should've killed the fat fuck.
hank213
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Tuesday, August 25th, 2009, 4:10 PM) *
should've killed the fat fuck.

when his friend in the background was saying "It's over get off him" I thought: Nope. He pulled a gun, ain't over until he's dead or out.
savagerebel
I finally figured out how to shoot my gun with accuracy. I didn't know what I was doing wrong but every time I shot, I was was hitting about 5-8 inches left. I asked a few buddies that are cops and a friend of a friend that is a state champ with his pistol. I think I was holding the grip way too tight and when I squeezed the trigger it was turning the barrel just a little. I burned 100 rounds this weekend and now I am hitting 8s and 9s almost every time. I will be able to qualify in my concealed carry class. Just a little more practice and my groups will be even better.
Love4hockey
I just bought some Hornady 115fr critical defense round. I shot abot 100 ronds throgh my gun and they shot very accurately. I'm going to go to the range one more time with these, but they may be my new defense round.
hank213
QUOTE (savagerebel @ Tuesday, August 25th, 2009, 6:56 PM) *
I finally figured out how to shoot my gun with accuracy. I didn't know what I was doing wrong but every time I shot, I was was hitting about 5-8 inches left. I asked a few buddies that are cops and a friend of a friend that is a state champ with his pistol. I think I was holding the grip way too tight and when I squeezed the trigger it was turning the barrel just a little. I burned 100 rounds this weekend and now I am hitting 8s and 9s almost every time. I will be able to qualify in my concealed carry class. Just a little more practice and my groups will be even better.

cool.

QUOTE (Love4hockey @ Tuesday, August 25th, 2009, 7:31 PM) *
I just bought some Hornady 115fr critical defense round. I shot abot 100 ronds throgh my gun and they shot very accurately. I'm going to go to the range one more time with these, but they may be my new defense round.

damn, that's some 'spensive plinking.
Love4hockey
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, August 25th, 2009, 8:46 PM) *
damn, that's some 'spensive plinking.

Yea, It cost about $80, but I figure it's worth it to know that my defense round shoots reliably and accurately.
mr_druid
Total scam? Discuss:

https://www.frontsight.com/free-gun.asp

Tom.
hank213
QUOTE (mr_druid @ Wednesday, August 26th, 2009, 2:43 AM) *

$1200...I'm skeptical, but I didn't study all the info to find the loopholes.

On a related note a local investment guy here is really appealing to the repubs in NE. If you go through him for investments he kicks some cash to you for a firearm purchase.
El Guapo
QUOTE (hank213 @ Monday, September 7th, 2009, 4:29 PM) *
$1200...I'm skeptical, but I didn't study all the info to find the loopholes.

On a related note a local investment guy here is really appealing to the repubs in NE. If you go through him for investments he kicks some cash to you for a firearm purchase.



lol,
hank213
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Tuesday, September 8th, 2009, 9:31 AM) *
lol,

thought you would enjoy that.
Sal Paradise
yeah virginia
speedz99
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Friday, November 6th, 2009, 6:08 PM) *


Almost heaven.
Jeepster80125
Shotgun revolver makes Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum look wimpy

Dirty Harry might have thought that his .44 Magnum was "the most powerful handgun in the world", but I guess he never ran into a Chinese gangster with one of these. Home made handgun revolvers using standard 12 gauge shotgun shells are becoming increasingly popular with Taiwanese gang members, and this one was confiscated from a 19 year old gang gun runner.

While it's not the first shotgun shell revolver, Taurus makes one called the Judge, this is the only one I've encountered that fires a regular 12 gauge round. That handle on the front isn't just for looks, as it's hard to imagine the kick this thing would deliver. Of course if you just want to intimidate people without firing anything, you could simply get this prop version.

The going street price for one of these suckers in Taiwan is around $7000-9000, just in case you're tempted.



ajs510
Well that's practical...

I liked Kurt Russell's little bullpup from Dark Blue personally...unfortunately they're illegal just like every other cool shotgun in the world (Spas12, AA-12, Striker)...

PokerPiper
QUOTE (Jeepster80125 @ Tuesday, February 16th, 2010, 10:51 AM) *
Shotgun revolver makes Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum look wimpy

Dirty Harry might have thought that his .44 Magnum was "the most powerful handgun in the world", but I guess he never ran into a Chinese gangster with one of these. Home made handgun revolvers using standard 12 gauge shotgun shells are becoming increasingly popular with Taiwanese gang members, and this one was confiscated from a 19 year old gang gun runner.

While it's not the first shotgun shell revolver, Taurus makes one called the Judge, this is the only one I've encountered that fires a regular 12 gauge round. That handle on the front isn't just for looks, as it's hard to imagine the kick this thing would deliver. Of course if you just want to intimidate people without firing anything, you could simply get this prop version.

The going street price for one of these suckers in Taiwan is around $7000-9000, just in case you're tempted.





Wow a new killing machine we really needed one of these.
Dirtydutch
Dutch needs a rifle:

Dutch is very bored this week, and is invented new chores instead of taking care of meaningful ones. For instance, for a variety of complex reasons, I plan to start deer hunting next season, but mostly I just like sweetass rifles I won't use. I know very very little. I'm thinking about some sort of Remington 700, but am willing to pay unnecessary money for an unnecessary gun just because I like the idea of it.

Also, I literally have no clue at all about scopes.

Anyone have advice?
speedz99
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Monday, March 15th, 2010, 7:37 PM) *
Anyone have advice?


Yeah, be a real man and bow hunt.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Monday, March 15th, 2010, 8:46 PM) *
Yeah, be a real man and bow hunt.


If I were to bow hunt, I would still need the rifle, though, because I like to imagine that I'm a sniper.
hank213
Well if you wanna get ridiculous, let's get ridiculous.

The Barrett .50 caliber. Used in confirmed sniper kills of about a mile.


If you want to go ridiculous but a bit more rarified there's the Cheytac M200, as made famous in the movie Shooter. Why would a gun made famous in a movie be rarified? Because it is a customed designed .408 round which costs approximately $7 a shot.


I'll try and think of more.
speedz99
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 11:35 AM) *
Why would a gun made famous in a movie be rarified? Because it is a customed designed .408 round which costs approximately $7 a shot.


I feel like that shouldn't be an issue. Using that fucker, you shouldn't need more than one bullet to bag a...well, a whatever the hell you want to kill.

Unless we talkin' 'bout practice.
hank213
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 1:46 PM) *
I feel like that shouldn't be an issue. Using that fucker, you shouldn't need more than one bullet to bag a...well, a whatever the hell you want to kill.

Unless we talkin' 'bout practice.

Well you would have to at least zero the scope. Could spend $42 bucks just doing that.
speedz99
QUOTE (hank213 @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 11:58 AM) *
Well you would have to at least zero the scope. Could spend $42 bucks just doing that.


You have to do that every time you take it out of the case?

Still, $49 ain't so bad for all that venison.
Dirtydutch
I'm sure those are both illegal for hunting in GA. In fact, I think anything that holds more than like 6 rounds or something is illegal for hunting here.
ajs510
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 9:19 PM) *
I'm sure those are both illegal for hunting in GA. In fact, I think anything that holds more than like 6 rounds or something is illegal for hunting here.


So just put them in one at a time.
speedz99
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 5:52 PM) *
So just put them in one at a time.


Well if you're going that route, just try to buy a minigun and tell them you're only loading 6 at a time.

But don't legit sniper rifles, as a general rule, chamber only one at a time?
ajs510
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Tuesday, March 16th, 2010, 10:01 PM) *
Well if you're going that route, just try to buy a minigun and tell them you're only loading 6 at a time.

But don't legit sniper rifles, as a general rule, chamber only one at a time?


Yes, as do pistols, assault rifles and shotguns. He's talking about a magazine fed rifle (which most of them are) and the magazine holding more than 6. More than one round in the chamber is how guns REALLY go boom.

If you really wanted to hunt with a Barrett (in which case I'd have to assume you're hunting rabid moose or polar bears), I'm sure you can purchase magazines that hold 5 or less if that isn't the way they come from the factory (pretty sure they come with 5 round mags though).

speedz99
It's official: I'm arming myself. So the obvious question is...what do I get? I'm thinking in the $300-$400 range, and I've been going back and forth between a .22 and a 9mm. I've always wanted a semi-automatic handgun, but then my buddy who's got a handful of guns showed me the picture below, and all of a sudden it became an option. I'm not really looking for home-security...I'm more comfortable with my baseball bat for that. I'm not a hunter, so this would be purely for fun at the firing range. I thought a 9mm would be the best for that, but my friend was telling me that besides feeling slightly badass with the whole assault rifle feel of the .22 (like the picture below), it has a big magazine, is more accurate, and can would be decent for longer distances at the range. So now I don't know.

So, I guess there are two questions. Which do I go with and then which would be the best within the categories to take a look at. Right now I'm still leaning towards the 9 mm...although the .22 would be better in case of a zombie apocalypse. Thoughts?

El Guapo
That's a really hard question, because they are really just not comparable.
speedz99
Can you think of some positives for having one over the other, or is it totally just totally a personal preference thing with rifle vs handgun?
El Guapo
Honestly you should get both.

I only have two guns right now, a .22 Springfield rifle and Smith & Wesson 9MM.

Ultimately, I think you would have more fun with a rifle. What do the people you will go shooting with have? Because with my friends we all shoot each others guns, so it's cool when everyone has different guns, so you can shoot a lot of different types and caliber of guns.

This is a really fun gun. Its a Sig Sauer Mosquito. It's a .22 pistol. Very light.




Also, not sure if this factors in, but .22 shells are a lot cheaper.
AmScray
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, July 16th, 2010, 8:46 PM) *
I'm not really looking for home-security...I'm more comfortable with my baseball bat for that.

Thoughts?



Does "LOL" count as a thought?
Get real. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to defend your home and you own a firearm, that baseball bat won't even be a consideration.

If you're just looking for a range toy, then get whatever strikes your fancy. Those 'mean rifle' clones in .22 are pretty neat and it's only a matter of time before you won't be able to walk into a gun store and buy them as a newly produced product... 2 years, 4 years, 8 years, whenever.

Nothing wrong with a 9MM, as long as you learn how to hit what you're shooting at. It's harder than it sounds. A 22 is pretty much a no-brainer and everyone should own a .22 handgun and a .22 rifle. Getting a 'mean-rifle' clone in .22 is flashy and fun and probably a good investment in years to come... I don't know how reliable they are, since those came after I was out of the game. If I had to pick a 22 rifle to get odd looks at the range or impress duck hunters, it would be one of those. If I had to pick a 22 rifle to be stranded on a deserted island with, it would be a 10/22 (you can get big mags for those too). Again, back during the ban years, those big 10.22 mags were ****ing pricey as hell.
speedz99
QUOTE (AmScray @ Friday, July 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM) *
Does "LOL" count as a thought?
Get real. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to defend your home and you own a firearm, that baseball bat won't even be a consideration.


True. I guess the only consideration would be how long it takes to get a gun out of a safe. Baseball bat stays under the bed.

QUOTE (AmScray @ Friday, July 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM) *
If you're just looking for a range toy, then get whatever strikes your fancy. Those 'mean rifle' clones in .22 are pretty neat and it's only a matter of time before you won't be able to walk into a gun store and buy them as a newly produced product... 2 years, 4 years, 8 years, whenever.

Nothing wrong with a 9MM, as long as you learn how to hit what you're shooting at. It's harder than it sounds. A 22 is pretty much a no-brainer and everyone should own a .22 handgun and a .22 rifle. Getting a 'mean-rifle' clone in .22 is flashy and fun and probably a good investment in years to come... I don't know how reliable they are, since those came after I was out of the game. If I had to pick a 22 rifle to get odd looks at the range or impress duck hunters, it would be one of those. If I had to pick a 22 rifle to be stranded on a deserted island with, it would be a 10/22 (you can get big mags for those too). Again, back during the ban years, those big 10.22 mags were ****ing pricey as hell.


This is helpful, thanks.
speedz99
I'm thinking about the GSG-5.
Pot Odds RAC
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Saturday, July 17th, 2010, 12:46 AM) *
It's official: I'm arming myself. So the obvious question is...what do I get? I'm thinking in the $300-$400 range, and I've been going back and forth between a .22 and a 9mm. I've always wanted a semi-automatic handgun, but then my buddy who's got a handful of guns showed me the picture below, and all of a sudden it became an option. I'm not really looking for home-security...I'm more comfortable with my baseball bat for that. I'm not a hunter, so this would be purely for fun at the firing range. I thought a 9mm would be the best for that, but my friend was telling me that besides feeling slightly badass with the whole assault rifle feel of the .22 (like the picture below), it has a big magazine, is more accurate, and can would be decent for longer distances at the range. So now I don't know.

So, I guess there are two questions. Which do I go with and then which would be the best within the categories to take a look at. Right now I'm still leaning towards the 9 mm...although the .22 would be better in case of a zombie apocalypse. Thoughts?

A .22 just isn't much of a weapon. Yes, it is better than nothing and Scram is right everyone should have one, but even when it comes to the range "fun factor" it isn't all that. A good 9mm is a much better option for just about any scenario ranging from good defense to target practice fun. Although I'd suggest something like a S&W .357. Great weapon. You can load with .38 Special all the way up to full load 357. The .38 spl loads are easy to plink at the range, and a .357 sounds like a cannon and gets EVERYONE''S attention up and down the line. The belching flame is an added bonus.
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