That, uh, seems more like my speed.

I like that sling, what kind is it? I know you talked about them in here before, but, you know, I'm super lazy.

It's a 3 point tactical sling.

http://www.slingsonly.com/m4_tactical_sling.shtml

It was 12 bucks but there are some better ones out there in the 25-30 range. I went cheap because there was a single point sling I wanted to try too. I like the 3 pt better.

okay that is cool, the M4, don't care too much about the old thing. Maybe when I go out to vegas this Sept I will go to that range and fire one.

Damn that M4 is sexy. Ive been owning noobs with that thing since i was 10.

so anybody else just recently spend over $2,300 on firearms and firearm related products? just me? ok.

what did you buy? pics?

Srsly, pics immed, imo.

don't actually have "possession" of anything yet. put the order in for the m1a (still hoping that they don't put a ban through before I get it or hoping it could be grandfathered in or something if so), and then just ordered 900 bucks worth of ammo today. does that officially make me the biggest gun nut in this thread? (obviously leaving beans out, he's the biggest everything nut on the site)

THASSA LODDA BULL ETS.

god damn right. 2012 will be here before you know it.

so if things do go all road warrior in 2012 can i borrow a set of assless leather pants from you? i mean, how many pairs does one guy need?

one guy needs 13. 13 pairs.


SO NO.

I've gotta say, I don't think M1's are real high on the banhammer list for the new administration.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't think they'd be near the top.

That's the thing about a ban list. There's not necessarily a lot of intellectual reason behind putting a gun on the list. Sometimes just a visceral reaction to or fear response by an anti-gun proponent seeing a certain gun can be enough for it to get tacked onto a ban list.

nah, they shouldn't be, but they're on that line. I'm not really worried so much about the gun as much as I am about the magazines. they come in 20 rounders and they would almost certainly be on the chopping block.

thing is about the m1a's though, they do have several of the characteristics that the last ban outlawed (over 20 rounds and flash suppressor thing), and the next one will probably be much more comprehensive, so I'm just being cautious.

Yeah, I just checked and I guess the M1 was a big one with the Clinton ban.

Lots of crimes being committed with those, I'll bet.

well as we all know, the scarier a gun looks, the easier it is to kill babies with.

That thing probably kills without you even touching it. You're a monster for even wanting one.

THAT'S what makes him a monster?!?

Sorry if this is old; I don't know if it's real:
-------------------------------------------------------

"I was the white guy with the black Burrberry jacket that you demanded I hand over shortly after you pulled the knife on me and my girlfriend. You also asked for my girlfriend's purse and earrings. I hope you somehow come across this message. I'd like to apologize.

I didn't expect you to crap your pants when I drew my pistol after you took my jacket. Truth is, I was wearing the jacket for a reason that evening, and it wasn't that cold outside. You see, my girlfriend had just bought me that Kimber 1911 .45 ACP pistol for Christmas, and we had just picked up a shoulder holster for it that evening. Beautiful pistol, eh? It's a very intimidating weapon when pointed at your head, isn't it?

I know it probably wasn't a great deal of fun walking back to wherever you'd come from with that brown sludge flopping about in your pants. I'm sure it was even worse since you also ended up leaving your shoes, cellphone, and wallet with me. I couldn't have you calling up any of your buddies to come help you try to mug us again. I took the liberty of calling your mother, or "Momma" as you had her listed in your cell, and explaining to her your situation. I also bought myself some gas on your card. I gave your shoes to one of the homeless guys over by Vinnie Van Go Go's, along with all of the cash in your wallet, then I threw the wallet itself in a dumpster.

I called a bunch of phone sex numbers from your cell. They'll be on your bill in case you'd like to know which ones. Alltel recently shut down the line, and I've only had the phone for a little over a day now, so I don't know what's going on with that. I hope they haven't permanently cut off your service. I was about to make some threatening phone calls to the DA's office with it. Oh well.

So, about your pants. I know that I was a little rough on you when you did this whole attempted mugging thing, so I'd like to make it up to you. I'm sure you've already washed your pants, so I'd like to help you out. I'd like to reimburse you for the detergent you used on the pants. What brand did you use, and was it liquid or powder? I'd also like to apologize for not killing you and instead making you walk back home humiliated. I'm hoping that you'll reconsider your choice of path in life. Next time you might not be so lucky. If you read this message, email me and we'll do lunch and laundry. Peace!

well, for the longest time now I've said that I don't really see myself looking for another handgun as I own pretty much what I consider the best one available for my needs, the Glock 23 .40 cal. well my friends, that time has come to an end. I now have a new mission, an new "quest," if you will. may I present to you, the new object of my affection, the Sig Sauer P220 Combat:



"Designed to meet, and exceed, rigorous military standards, the P220® Combat performs like no other .45ACP available. Each pistol features the military’s Flat Dark Earth finish on its alloy frame and SIG’s Nitron® finish over a stainless slide. Internal parts and controls are phosphated for extreme corrosion resistance and reduced friction while the barrel is hard chromed and finished in Nitron® which easily passes the military’s accuracy requirements – even after 20,000 rounds. The P220 Combat also passes the military’s 240-hour salt spray corrosion test. Additional features include a M1913 Picatinny rail, vertical front strap serrations and SIGLITE® night sights."


it will be mine. oh yes, it will be mine.

You can't go wrong with a SIG, I highly recommend them.

My current quest is for a highly-concealable handgun in a capable caliber, something I can carry in the front pocket of jeans or khakis without worrying about excessive weight or weapon-printing. This would be an everyday, carry it everywhere I go weapon.

I'm currently between the Kahr PM9 (9mm auto) and the Smith and Wesson 340PD (.357 mag revolver), both run about the same in cost, which is high. Neither suits my needs/wants perfectly, so I'm still looking for something better, or hoping that something hits the market soon that will be exactly what I want.

Kahr:



Smith and Wesson:

The P220 is pretty awesome.

That Kahr (never heard of it) looks tiny.

I would highly recommend looking at this gun (Kimber .45):



It's not the prettiest of weapons, but it shoots amazing.

I happen to think those Kimbers are very pretty guns, but they're holster weapons, bulky and heavy. Not suited for what I want right at the moment, I already have my bedside-table baby.

Ah, see I did not read your first line for some reason. So you want concealable, light, w/ stopping power? Is that correct?

I used to have stopping power as one of my perks.

deadly silent, too.

Seems like you're gonna have to compromise somewhere. You want a heavier caliber without weight or size that will give a profile in your pocket so something has to give. May as well get a derringer.

Yes, precisely.

and so it starts...

So your backyard is part of the NPS?

Nobody's sayin' you can't own a gun.

Nobody's even sayin' you can't carry a gun.

All we're sayin' is you can't carry a gun in town.

That's not so bad, is it?

It looks to me that even if this gets passed I can still go get a gun and carry it in my pants like a badass and I won't be breaking any laws, unless I go to a National Park. Well, I guess that would be bad if I ran into a gang of squirrels deep in the woods, but I can still legally carry a trapper keeper.

Ron Mexico WageSlave will get when I'm saying.

yeah, kinda



the point isn't what effects me personally, it's the erosion of rights in general.

Well welcome to the club then, the government has been taking away rights for the last 8 or so years. Now they are going after something important to you. Have fun, it sucks.

you left off a zero. I fixed it.


and yeah, typically I'm all for government taking away rights. this is the first time it's upset me.

Law just don't go 'round here Mr. Kansas law dog.


On the contrary, you'd be breaking several.

Your friends may get me in a rush, but not before I turn your head into a canoe.

http://www.infowars.com/democrat-proposes-...rance-policies/

Illinois — the land of Obama and the Blagojevich mafia — is serious about making the Second Amendment so expensive only the rich will be able to exercise it. Kenneth Dunkin, a former social worker and Democrat member of the Illinois House of Representatives, has introduced HB0687, entitled the “Firearm Owners ID-Insurance” bill. It is currently in the Rules Committee.

Dunkin’s bill amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, a previous bill aimed at chipping away at the Second Amendment. Dunkin’s amendment states “that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person.”

A million dollars!

Can you imagine the premium on such an insurance policy? It would be astronomical and out of the reach of most people in Illinois.

If the firearm owner cannot afford the insurance or decides that it is simply crazy and also unconstitutional and refuses to participate, “the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner’s Identification Card,” thus making the the firearm illegal and the owner a criminal.

If Dunkin’s bill makes it out of committee and is passed by the Illinois General Assembly, a whole lot of people will have their firearms confiscated by the State Police.

It will be shot down by the supreme court if it does pass Illinois legislature. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Edited - I can't find anything to back up the authenticity of what I posted.

I am looking for a little advise for my first handgun purchase. I want a good multipurpose gun. My funds are a little limited though. I will have about $600 to spend to get the gun. Accessories can come later. I have looked at a Taurus 40 S&W. What is the difference in the Millennium and the 24/7?

Also I live in Oklahoma but guns are much cheaper in Texas. My uncle and cousin are both willing to buy and transfer it to me but we don't know how that works. Anyone know how to do that or who to ask?

For private transfers it doesn't look like any sort of permit process is necessary.
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_tx.htm
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_ok.htm

I've heard that Taurus has improved recently but I'm still not fully on board with them yet. I recommend a .40 caliber. You can find a lot quality weapons in your price range in that caliber. Unfortunately, the popularity of the caliber has raised the price of ammo over the past couple years. The Beretta storm is a quality gun, easy to shoot, and fits well in the hand. But hears a good start to do some comparison shopping:
http://www.gundirectory.com/body.asp?gun=P...mith+%26+Wesson

I would recommend buying a 9mm. The cost of ammunition adds up fast if you go to the range often. If you buy good ammunition a 9mm is plenty powerful to take someone down. Shot placement is more important than caliber.

Check out the Springfield XD 9. It's a great gun for the money. It comes in a subcompact if your intentions are to carry it.

I was never a fan of Glocks until I bought a used Glock 17 for $300 this January. The gun is amazingly accurate. It is a little to big to conceal so you could look into the Glock 19. It's the same gun just a smaller version.

Don't let the cost of a gun deter you from buying the gun you want. You're going to have it for a long time so buy the one you want. Do some research then go to a gun range a rent the guns you are interested in. It's pretty much all personal preference.

Haven't been out shooting in a very long time.

I gave my Browning High Power 9 a light cleaning this weekend. Man, I forgot how heavy that thing is.

Looking for another stock/grip set up for the AK too. Not sure what is legal anymore to be honest.

It came with the Israeli assault set up (has the little cleaning kit stuffed into a snap hole in the stock and has the pistol grip separate from the stock) but I took that all off because I was told it was not legal and put on an aftermarket thing with an all in one stock and grip. It really suck ass and looks horrible.

swoon

I ain't easy and I ain't your kid. You take sorry and shove it up your ass.


I hope you crossed me out because you knew I'd almost never open this thread. I saw the guy below me posted and I decided to read it...


I was sorely disappointed

I saw them talking about that rifle on Top Sniper a couple weeks ago. giggidy. I also saw a bit about this pistol and was intrigued

The P250®, a modular pistol that allows the shooter to change caliber and size at will....

The SIG SAUER® P250 was designed specifically to address the future needs of the military, law enforcement, and civilian shooters around the world. The P250 will be available in the most popular calibers (9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP). The P250's innovative design enables the shooter to quickly remove the functional mechanism and place it into the polymer grip of his choice. This allows an immediate change in caliber and size;(subcompact, compact and full). And after any change the pistol delivers both outstanding accuracy and reliable functionality. Its modularity not only provides incredible ease of maintenance, but also provides a solution for accommodating different hand sizes - there are 6 different ergonomic combinations for each size, accomplished by changes in grip circumference and trigger style. Now you can own the world's only modular shooting system globally engineered to deliver the "To-Hell -And-Back-Reliability" you've come to expect from Sig Sauer.


Item Number 2509005 (9mm) 2504005 (.40 S&W) 2503005 (.357SIG) 2505008 (.45ACP)
Caliber 9mm, .40S&W, .357SIG, .45ACP
Action Type DAO
Trigger Pull DA 5.5 - 6.5 lbs
Trigger Pull SA N/A
Overall Length 7.2 in
Overall Height 5.1 in
Overall Width 1.3 in (Std. Grip)
Barrel Length 3.9 in
Sight Radius 5.8 in
Weight w/ Mag 25.1 oz / 26.9 oz
Magazine Capacity 9mm 15 Rounds (9mm) 13 Rounds (.357SIG - .40S&W) 9 Rounds (.45ACP)
Sights SIGLITE® Night Sights
Grips Interchangeable Polymer
Frame Finish Polymer Grip Shell with Stainless Insert
Slide Finish Nitron®
Accessory Rail Yes
Features Interchangeable grip sizes and calibers
MSRP $750.00 (9mm, .40 S&W, .357SIG ) $810.00 (.45ACP)
CA Compliant No
MA Compliant No