Amen.
I shot my first pistol (I believe it was a .41 mag) with my dad and his dad when I was six. Just a couple rounds and he was basically holding up the gun for me. Went and dug the slug out of the mountainside it was pretty clear what that could do to someone. I think the biggest realization came from when I got my BB gun and shot a bird and watched it die slow and bloody. I realized that it wasn't always like the movies where something gets shot and *plop* falls down dead. That was enough for me to realize it wasn't a game and there could be immediate and horrible consequence to a screw up.

First pistol I shot was my dads old standard police issue .38 special. Man that thing kicked, at least to me as a little kid.

Rifle - 22, 30-06 and 308

Shotgun - 10 gauge, knocked me on my ass!

Alright, I have a question gun owners... I originally pm'd this question to Scram, but he's gone on Hanukkah vacation, so I'll ask all of ya'll


So, as some of you may or may not know, my father passed away about 3 weeks ago. He left the bulk of the estate to my mother, including personal property. Part of that personal property is a 92FS CAL 9mm Parabellum Beretta. The gun appears to be in pristine condition as my dad was an anal neat freak and I'm sure cleaned it religiously after use ( and shot it very little) .My mother is terrified with guns, so she gave it to me. Lincoln/Nebraska apparently has extremely loose gun laws, because I called the sheriff's department, to ask if I needed to register it, and I found out that 1) guns can transfer within family without needing any paperwork.. 2) registering handguns in Lincoln is 100 percent optional, and done for the purposes of recovery if it was stolen. So, I have to do exactly zero paper work to take possession of it.

I am not a gun guy, I have shot guns maybe 5 times in my life. I am probably not going to keep the gun, and my decision is to keep it is going to be based on 1) how much is the gun worth 2) how close to that value can I actually get if I try to sell it. 3) where and how can I sell it 4) how easy is it to sell a handgun ( or rather, is it easy to sell a gun for close to it's "book Value") .

If the gun isn't worth much, or is hard to sell, I'll just keep it and use it as an adult firecracker type toy, shooting it at a range maybe once a year or something. But really, I have no desire or use for a gun, and the only thing I can really see me using it for is to hold sideways gangster style while I listen to "Gimme the Loot" ( which, I admit, has been fun so far, but I'm sure the novelty will wear off soon)

So, if you gun guys can give me some 411, that would be great.

It's worth give or take $500. You can do a private party sale with no paperwork. Basically a cash deal. Similar to what the Sheriff told you. There is no registration necessary. For me I would rather have the gun that $500. Beretta makes a decent 9MM. There biggest grip was always in combat that someone could disarm you by pulling the slide off, rendering the weapon useless. This is obviously not and issue unless you plan on doing some home invasions in 2009.

It's a sweater!

Guap is pretty accurate with price for new but not necessarily with the dismantle thing (he's watched lethal weapon 4 too many times methinks). I'd say right now is a pretty good time to sell it. Everybody has their panties in a twist over a dem in the white house and it's becoming a bit of a seller's market. One thing you may want to consider is if it comes with 15 round mags you may want to wait. If we see another legislative move toward banning "oversize" clips again you may be able to get a few more bucks for it. If you wanna go shoot it sometime let me know, there's an indoor range a few blocks from my house.

The movies obvioulsy played it up. But it was an issue in hand to hand combat, and don't think for a minute that movie stuff did not hurt their sales. Beretta was once the epitome of 9MM. No longer the case.

god damn mel gibson.

are you hank?


It is a 15 round magazine, and apparently my dad had two extra magazines and a shoulder holster. My dad was a big hat no cattle sort of cowboy, I doubt he shot this gun more than 5 times.

I'm calling bullshit. To field strip a Beretta you have to pull the slide, raise a bar to hold it open, press a button, and lower another bar. See page 11 of the pdf file (pgs 21-22 of actual manual). Now even if we were taking shortcuts, an assailant would need to depress a button while lowering the release lever, all without getting shot, kicked, or punched.
http://www.rangereport.com/guns/beretta/92...l/92_series.pdf

yes i am. got tired of loggin in & out at work and home.


hmmmm....I might be interested in purchasing....

Yeah, but for me it would just be a toy, it would have no use, I have terrible hand-eye coordination, so it would be a joke as self defense, I'd be better off the the dropping to my knees and begging for mercy tactic. If I was a hobbyst or shot it for fun or what ever, I could understand it, but seriously all it's ever going to be is a prop for listening to gangster rap, and 500 bucks is worth more to me than that.




From the beretta, puttin' all the holes in yo sweata,

well, let me know. I would go the 500 guapo suggested.

Give me the week to make a decision.

Sure thing. It will give me some time to pretend to do drive by's. Plus, you'll get to see how big my head actually is, as a bonus.

Is it sad that this is the firs thing that came to mind and that I only want Hank to purchase that gun so I can get a first hand description of your noggin and possibly a candid cell pic.

I'm starting a fund, if I raise half I'll post a pic of his cranium and he can cry himself to sleep on his huuuge pillow.

BigD, after much deliberation I've decided against the purchase. I'm hoping to get to Vegas in the next few months and I'd rather use the cash on debauchery. I'm sure you understand. Thanks though and if I hear of anybody wanting to purchase I'll let you know.

I went shooting today because nothing says Christmas like sending hot lead down range. Shot my dad's new Berett 90-two. An excellent pistol imho.

As you wish...

Mac, just a piece of unrequested advice: Don't sell your Dad's gun. It's cash value doesn't hold a candle to it's sentimental value, even if it doesn't hold much of that right now.

There will come a day where you wish you hadn't, and it will be too late. If you don't want to use it, give it a good cleaning and oiling, put it in a nice box and put it in your closet. The missed $500 today will be absolutely meaningless 30 years from now when you're passing Grandpa's antique 9mm on to your kid.

I am probably the least sentimental person alive, when it comes to material possessions at least, so this really isn't an issue for me, but thanks for the suggestion.

anyone get their new issue of American Rifleman yet!?



mine has yet to come!


wtf

Got mine a week or so ago.

godammit

I think. Let me finish this tourney and I'll check the cover.

--edit
Yep. January issue.

That looks nice, I had not seen those yet. 9mm or .40?

It's a .40. It's basically a re-engineered model 96. A little sturdier for longer life if fired frequently as well as easier to modify the grip and add a flashlight/laser under the barrel. I fired ten rounds total and all ten were in about a 4 inch grouping center mass. Speaks a lot for a weapon when someone who has never fired the weapon can pick it up and shoot well with it.

After this weekend I will be a pround owner of a handgun by the end of the week. God Bless America!!!!! and as Public Enemy would say I found out "911 is a joke in my town"

just ordered a new book too. "In the Gravest Extreme" by Massad F. Ayoob. As recommended to me by my boss

went to lunch and am now a proud owner of my first handgun. glock 40 FTW

Did I read in another thread that you have a kid/kids? If so, you may want to also pick up this:
http://ayoob.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/me...egory_Code=AMAB


Good gun. But, for a carry piece (if that is your intention) I prefer guns without the integrated trigger safety. As far as an all around personal defense weapon and something easy to care for, shoot, and clean you've chosen wisely.

sometimes i wake up in the mourning and put a helmet on before i go to work, just in case.

To the people who carry guns on a daily basis, why dont you wear a kevlar if you are so worried. Or do you?

i can get past carrying a gun, but lets just face it. Its because you feel like a badass. That or your all dealing drugs

such the truth. every time I clean my glock I feel like I'm forgetting something because it's so quick to do. not to mention if I clean it after I clean my M4. hank you know what I'm talking about.

you were looking for this thread: http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=111780

I don't carry a gun because I'm a violent, convicted felon who isn't legally able to own them, but I live in a city full of similarly violent, convicted felon Negroes and Mexicans. If you lived here, you'd understand why totally honest, completely law abiding, very sane people decide to carry a gun.

I couldn't care less if a bunch of canadians or brits don't carry guns, but I do LOL when they think they know what's best for a white girl living south of the loop.

This is where i cant say anything. because your 1000% right although id ask her what she was doing out at a bad hour (if that was the case)

I really have no problem with people who have a good reason to own a gun. I actually am a gun enthusiast and if i was able i would own a few as well.

What makes me nervous are a bunch of in debt yahoo's with an IQ of 80 running around with a fully loaded weapon.

If everyone was like you amscray it'd be fine....alas i dont want to clutter this thread anymore with my bologna. Good day gentlemen.

Nothing is worse than an idiot carrying around a weapon with a partially loaded chamber....

You said it, brother.

I knew this one guy who asked me if he should buy a gun. He started talking about having to protect himself and how he liked going to ranges and stuff like that. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Finally I had enough and I shouted out, "You have four maxed out credit cards, a student loan, and a car loan, and you want to get a gun?!"

First rule of gun ownership: be debt free.

Do you really have an M4?

Did you ever post a pic?

You know my stance on guns but I have no problem saying that I think M4's are the tits.

That is interesting, because I have always thought they were the bee's knee's.

The true mark of a man who's played a LOT of COD4.

Second rule of gun ownership: carry fully loaded.

True story: My SIG will hold 12 in the mag, 1 in the pipe, but I've never ejected the mag to squeeze that 1 extra round in after chambering.

I don't know why, I guess I figure if I really need that 13th round I probably deserve my fate.

I do carry a spare 12 round mag though...lol.

lol I would be lying if I said that was not true.

I always pull back the slide, put one in the chamber, then close the slide and put the mag in



That started from the old nineteen eleven single stack mag days

Hmmmm. I guess that is faster. I always load the clip, chamber number 13, eject then add a round, pop clip back in.


Well at least my way looks cooler.

Whats on your arm?

Is that a 30-06?

Tattoo of a devil woman.

Yes. It's a Springfield 1903. Love that gun. It belonged to my gramps and I shot it when I was ~16 4 of 5 at an antifreeze jug. I vowed one day it would be mine. Oh yes, it would be mine.

So gramps gave it to dad about 10 years ago then dad got married. About after the wedding his wife wanted a .380 so I traded my Browning .380 for the 1903. Then a few years later I was looking to pickup a .380 but they quit making the Browning model so I offered to buy it back from his now ex wife and she sold it cheap.

The lesson to be learned here is never marry a woman with a firearm preference.