Pretty straight forward preflop action with AA. Flop blows as it comes KKT. I check and call a minimum bet and hit gin on the turn. Am I correct to lead out here?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($4.75)
BB ($14.65)
Hero ($29.50)
UTG+1 ($25.75)
MP1 ($4.50)
MP2 ($17.35)
CO ($20.90)
Button ($14)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) K, K, T (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.25, Button calls $0.25, BB folds, Hero calls $0.25.

Turn: ($4.85) A (3 players)
Hero bets $3.5

look at the action. a K or a straight probably isn't folding for any reasonable amount. what we want is the dead money and a stack. i'd be more inclined to check, hoping MP2 bets again and button calls before we raise. even if MP2 only bets $1 were gonna get the whole stack of whoever comes along for the ride.

if MP2 has KJ and decides to call down a PSB on the river, it's still gonna leave him w/ a few bucks.

if the button had bet the flop, i would lead.

of course betting isn't terrible.

My thought here is that the board is pretty loaded and anyone with a random K is coming along for the ride. Build the pot now and let them hang themselves on the river. Know what I'm sayin'?

i don't think you know what i'm saying.

You got the non quad nuts and four players in?
I slow down to $2 and let teh shoving start

i know what you're saying, but if MP has Kx, he's already shown some FPS. if we bet, there's a good chance he just calls, and more dead $ comes along from the button (flush redraw, naked A, sweetest of all a turned gutter). if we check, there's a good chance MP gets FPS again and bets small, which means we're not losing that much by not getting button's dead $ if we decide to lead instead of c-r, but there's a chance we get a lot more of button's dead $ if we lead.

bet's definitely too strong and unneccessary. Some draws got there and weaker big hands too, let them put money in. If someone's got a boat your action doesn't matter, but qj could get pushed out before being bled w/ this action.



Also, just post the reasoning for your move in the OP. It comes off weird when you defend your action after one reply.

It's strat, give all the info you have and your reads then sit back a minute unless you have questions.

I am sort of OK as played. Perhaps a bit too strong. If the Scoundrel is a Fancy Pants player, then bet smalller to let him hang himself. Even a "Hollywood" Check/Call on the Turn could get him to hang himself. Checking the River could be too fancy and result in lost opportunity.

There was a hand in a Tourney on TV the other day (WPT Bad Boys #2) where Men Nguyen catches a Straight and then keeps checking, hoping for a Check/Raise opportunity. Problem is no one bet and he got ZERO value for his big hand.

I might lead, but for about half of what you did. I don't think the ace changes much unless one of the villains was hanging around with some kind of 10-8, so as long as they're not too much heat they'll stay in with their pair & draw, etc. We want two to this river.

I think you overbet the turn and should've bet around $ 1.5 - $ 2.25

agree with above, either weak bet it to bloat pot or c/r oop.

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i don't think anyone is worried about the aces over kings, but i wouldn't have bet because they now have to be scared of kings over aces (with you possibly holding ak) if i did bet it would've been a lot smaller and then i'd raise anyone who bets (because whoever raises you will probably think they have the best hand)

Considering your opponents only bet and called a min bet on the flop, I think you fired way to much being first to act on the turn. I like either a small bet to bloat the pot or checking to see what happens behind you.

for the record, i disagree so much with what's being said in this thread.

if you're gonna bet the turn, OPs bet size is perfect.

What's everyones thoughts on Heros flop play?

As played, personally I would check-raise the turn.

I guess my thought was build the pot. If anyone has an actual hand they'll at least call me down. If I check raise, would it be too strong of a move on a paired board to continue getting action? Guess I could have check raised.


Anyway, the both folded. I'm guessing neither had much of a hand in the first place and I may not have gotten much out of them unless the river completed a straight and I ran into someone too stubborn to fold. Maybe it was just one of those hands where I'm not destined to win much.

you probably were bet into by like J T "trying to figure out where it was at... "



i dont think check-call-donk-ing would be too bad here... gives one last opportunity for hands that aren't calling a bet to perhaps bet again... maybe one last chance for someone to hit a gutter ball etc...


also, if you're betting the turn.... i like you're ammount... you're hand looks like some A Q / A Js type holding...

also, if you're vs the K this lead is PERRRRRRRFECT imo.... then again, the flop action suggests no K....



can't get action that isn't there

I think I'm checking this turn 100%. I don't want anyone getting scared, and obviously the only river that we're afraid of is one of the last two kings. Our hand is uber disguised too. If there is more action (depending on how much) I'm either raising here, or c/c and donking the river big.