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cwik
Alright, this is my second hand at the table. Never played with villain before.

Is turn c/r, c/f, b/c, b/f?


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $263.25
UTG+1: $175.32
CO: $218.10
Button: $194
Hero: $198
BB: $93.57

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with as.gif ad.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $11, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6c.gif 10h.gif 5h.gif ($46, 4 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Turn: 9h.gif ($118, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $60, Hero ???
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (cwik @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:46 PM) *
Alright, this is my second hand at the table. Never played with villain before.

Is turn c/c, c/f, b/c, b/f?
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $263.25
UTG+1: $175.32
CO: $218.10
Button: $194
Hero: $198
BB: $93.57

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with as.gif ad.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $11, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6c.gif 10h.gif 5h.gif ($46, 4 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Turn: 9h.gif ($118, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $60, Hero ???


Checking opened the door. Calling this means getting stacked with one pair with a flush on the board at the turn and four people having seen the flop. I really don't like calling here. Go away quietly.
bdc30
With 3 limpers I think if you're gonna raise from the small blind here, you have to make it a lot more expensive than $11 to see the flop. As the above poster said, with 4 to the flop and the straight and flush draws out there, you can let this go.
Acid_Knight
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nomad_monad
as others said, raising more pf would be good.
on the flop, with 3 other players in the hand and the board being so draw heavy, i'd full pot it.
c/f the turn. the only thing you beat is Tx or a bluff. really doubt UTG+1 decided to float on you in a multiway pot, not closing the action. also, Tx checks behind here a lot. villain's committed to the hand when he bets the turn - give him some credit until he shows you otherwise.
heads up, you could make an argument for a CRAI.
Money022
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:00 PM) *
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Honestly? And why is this?
Snamuh
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:00 PM) *
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joke?

Maybe if we had the Ah....
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:00 PM) *
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Drunk.
Obv.
cwik
QUOTE (Money022 @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:33 PM) *
Honestly? And why is this?


heh, I think he just knows the results already.
krup24
i bet at least the pot on the flop and i c/c the turn
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:51 PM) *
Checking opened the door. Calling this means getting stacked with one pair with a flush on the board at the turn and four people having seen the flop. I really don't like calling here. Go away quietly.

Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 6:52 AM) *
Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad.

He's a big proponent of the whole "I opened the door to let him take it away so he must have it" school. Either that, or the "I checked and he bet becuase I checked so I can't fold now" school. Both have crappy classes.

I wasn't drunk when I posted that. I did already know results. What I told cwik in AIM was that I'd probably just flip a coin in this situation, but I'd lean slightly towards shoving. I'd never bet the turn here FWIW unless I knew the villain was a station. Sometimes I c/f and sometimes I CRAI, none of that silly c/cing.
Temporary Nuts
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 9:52 AM) *
Checking doesn't cause him to have the flush, so I'm not following why the check is bad.


This also filled up 8-7 FWIW
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Temporary Nuts @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:23 AM) *
This also filled up 8-7 FWIW

Yeah, and I think that's why we should overbet the pot on this flop: the turn is hard to play because we don't know what the villain is drawing to.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:19 AM) *
He's a big proponent of the whole "I opened the door to let him take it away so he must have it" school. Either that, or the "I checked and he bet becuase I checked so I can't fold now" school. Both have crappy classes.

I wasn't drunk when I posted that. I did already know results. What I told cwik in AIM was that I'd probably just flip a coin in this situation, but I'd lean slightly towards shoving. I'd never bet the turn here FWIW unless I knew the villain was a station. Sometimes I c/f and sometimes I CRAI, none of that silly c/cing.



I hate it when you people talk about me like I can't read your posts.
You all are going to turn me into a cranky old man.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:47 AM) *
I hate it when you people talk about me like I can't read your posts.
You all are going to turn me into a cranky old man.

David asked a question and I answered it, that's all. I honestly don't say anything in here that I don't think that I could reasonably back up with a little rummaging through posts. smile.gif
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:49 AM) *
David asked a question and I answered it, that's all. I honestly don't say anything in here that I don't think that I could reasonably back up with a little rummaging through posts. smile.gif



goddamnit

get off the grass
Temporary Nuts
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:52 AM) *
goddamnit

get off the grass


God damn kids and your hippity hop music!
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:52 AM) *
goddamnit

get off the grass

Never smoked in my life.
Royal_Tour
raise to 16 18 preflop.

then your hand plays differently.

/end
cwik
I shoved the turn and the villain timebanked then called w/ ks.gif 5c.gif
Moneyball16
Lol. Expert call.
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