Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $53
UTG+1: $19.50
CO: $71.75
Button: $76.50
Hero: $60.45
BB: $46.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 4 J T J
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 4 T J ($3, 6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $5.5, BB folds, UTG calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 5 ($15, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG calls.

River: Q ($45, 2 players)
Hero??

any advice here other than "SIGHS AND QUITS POKER BECAUSE HE CAN'T F*CKING DODGE A F*CKING DRAW TO SAVE HIS LIFE"?????

These spots are so gross in deep stacked PLO. With the rainbow board on the turn, you know he isn't calling with a flush draw. He *could* have a lower set here quite often though. But knowing if a villain is capable of making a stone bluff when a draw completes (or knowing when to turn a hand like 44, TT or even JT into a bluff to induce a fold) is a very valuable asset.

If the river was a 9, I would say very easy check-fold since the most common draw to call a pot bet with there is 3 or 4 cards out of 9QKA (or perhaps something like 89Qx). With the river being a Q, only the AKQx/89xQ combo now has a straight.

So all in all, tough spot. Good news is that not as many of his straight draw hands have made a straight on the river. Bad news is that 1) He is unlikely to have a set or two pair, since we know where 2 of the 4's, 2 of the T's and 3 of the J's are. 2) Even if he doesn't have the straight, he may well bluff as if he has it once he sees us check.

I think I check-puke-fold to any meaningful bet, because most people who bet will have it here.

If I were in this spot I'd probably lead for about $10 just to make it harder for the villain to go for an outright steal: if he raises in this spot you know you're beat, if he calls you might (somehow) still be good (if he's an idiot). I realise that's quite an expensive play but I guess the way I'd look at it is, if I was somehow good (looks unlikely, I'll freely admit), my only hope of getting what's in the pot would be to bet. Certainly, I know that if I was the villian and still had nothing on the river, but you checked, I'd find a pot-sized bluff irrestible!

You know we have a set, yes?

I don't think he will bluff most of the time there. I check/call a reasonable bet. check/fold to a big bet.

If you check this river to me I'm shoving with most hands because you never have AK there.

That's just me though.

How can he call with that???







Sounds familiar?

Sigh.

So what's the consensus here? Bet/Fold? Check/Call small? Check/Fold?

Check/fold. No value in betting, and no value in subsequently calling (he has a straight too often).

Easy check/fold. If he actually does have a lower set, he won't bother trying to bluff and there's a good chance that he'll check behind with two pair too. There are no missed draws to worry about so it's going to be a straight about 90% of the time when he bets.