Ok, I just got a new job, and its a pretty good job. Its with the largest HMO in the country. The pay is not spectacular but not bad, and it has an amazing benefits package (including totally free health care and 30+ paid days off in the first year), and opportunity for very fast advancement if I dont **** up. Anyway, the wife and I have some credit card debt right now and we're pretty much paycheck to paycheck at the moment, but after I'm settled in this job for a few months we should be a lot more comfortable.

So, I want this watch and I don't really want to wait. Its right around $1k. Would it be selfish of me to cash it out 1k from my poker BR and buy it right now?

The watch is a Movado Series 800...

I don't see the problem if your taking it out of your poker money. Nice watch.

I think it's a pretty bad idea to drop that kind of dough on something with less function than a $20 Casio when you're in debt...but then again, I have more money than I could reasonably spend, and still prefer the Casio. So I'm biased.

(It has a calculator, homos.)

Stupid maybe. But it's not selfish if that money wasn't going to be used for the household either way.

I'm not a watch guy, but I would like to congratulate you on bringing Dutch out of hiding. Well done!

If you're living paycheck to paycheck, why do you even have a poker bankroll?

Or, you could just buy this one from me for a lot cheaper.

i usually like movado watches. that one just doesn't do it for me. it still has that movado sleekness to it but its just too busy. not that you asked for my opinion but i felt like giving it anyway.

Is this the watch Tom Brady did a commercial for?

If so..

Go figure

Edit: and congrats on the job.. but the colts are gonna win tommorow

NO!
NO!
STOP RIGHT NOW!!
WORTHLESS GAYLORD QUARTZ "FASHION" WATCH

For that same price, you could get a nice, Vintage Omega Speedmaster, a Fortis, a Tutima or any number of watches that are wildly superior! If you really want a Chrono, a Poljot is 10X the watch of that stupid Movado for less money! AND IT ISN'T QUARTZ!

Please- do some research. Movados, Gucci- brands like that are just so much garbage. On it's best day, a Movado chrony is nothing more than an overpriced Seiko.

scram, he doesn't care. He just wants a watch that looks cool and has name brand recognition.

I just don't see the points of watches anymore. Sure, they make you look good, but with everybody having a cell phone, you will never walk into a room and not have somebody know the time. They just need to whip out their phone and you have the time.

Exactly. And as it happens, I just happen to have one thats NEVER BEEN WORN, that he can purchase from me! Still even has the price tag attatched! Id sell it for the bargain price of 50% off!!

Not selfish though.

I understand, but that is just such an epic failure of a purchase, considering that a Movado chrony is a $90 watch with a $1000 pricetag.

For about the same price, he could have a geniune Breitling Calisto chrony with a mechanical Lemania movement, solid gold accents, etc.





THAT is a $1000 timepiece.

I do care, I'm just ignorant when it comes to watches. I've never had a watch that costs more than $50 before and I've never really wanted a nice one until now. I'll do some research. I will admit that something that looks good is important to me, but I do want a quality watch.

That is about the ugliest watch I think Ive ever seen.

agreed. I like my watches poorly made and covered in bling.

I can help with this.

One thing you have to remember with higher end watches is that ALL of them are overpriced when you buy new.
A $10,000 Rolex or Zenith is really only about $5000 worth of watch.
The catch on Movados is that they're really no better than a $99 Seiko, yet in a retail setting, they ask obscene prices.

There is very, very little value in quartz movements. Yes, some are better than others and they are functionally superior to mechanical movements, but the "value" in a watch lies in its hand-fitted and finely tuned mechanical movement.
There are a few examples of extremely high end quartz movements (Audemars Royal Oak quartz, etc) but for the most part, all quartz movements are made by ETA and are common to $50 watches and $500 watches alike. (Very few outfits still make their own proprietary movements- even "high end" watches like Omegas and Panerais use tuned ETA ebauches)

Brands like Movado, Gucci, (modern day) Hamilton- all of them make nice, functional watches but don't remotely deserve the prices they bring, given that they aren't a whole lot better than their $39.95 clone.

If you want to spend $1K on a watch, you can get in the door with some pretty nice timepieces.
If you are willing to go vintage, you can get some truly impressive watches at that pricepoint.
New, your options are a bit lower (The $1K mark is where the quality level really seems to break, just like it breaks again at $3K and again at $8K) but there are still some tremendous watches out there for under $1K that you would be proud to pass down to a kid. In 10 years, that Movado will be a $150 watch on ebay, whereas if you buy something like an entry level (or preowned) Tutima, there's a very real chance that it will be worth as much 10 years from now as the day you bought it.

I'm sure your tastes are highly refined when it comes to picking out fine timepieces.

Now we're talkin'. There's a watch you can set your clock to.

Obviously, because a female must not know a thing about watches.

Correct. Women don't know shit about watches (because watches involve math and engineering)

Rings, necklaces, bracelets or other shiny trinkets that just "dangle"- women are co-equal with men as far as knowledge and understanding. Complex watches- no. Never, ever. Ever.

I love Scram soooo much.

Im an MIT grad and also have a degree in engineering, so I guess you picked the wrong chick to throw that out to.


Or, I could totally be lying and have no other argument because math is hard and engineering, well.. nevermind. Im a chick so I have good taste and the watch you posted was ugly. The one I posted was Erik Ryland baller.

I like you.

Seriously, though, that first watch scram posted looked kick-ass, to me. Does it do graphing, though?

Also -- and as with other recent displays of my increasingly delusional state brought on by drugs and seclusion, I assure you this is true -- I tried to gank a Breitling Callisto off torrentz.com, before realizing that I could only steal intellectual property from comfort of home. This is sad for me for several reasons.

LOL if this is true, and not artistic license in all seriousness, you should consider checking yourself into a hospital.

It was a subconscious thing; I'm so used to being able to download anything I want.

But, as I think anyone will confirm, I'll end up locked up at some point. If you had any clue all the weird browser tabs I've got going, you'd be a little freaked.

feel free to pm them, I don't freak easy

Scram- I have a lot of money that I don't need. Please holla at a negro about some watches. Ty

7 poker tables, 13 (13) watch-related sites, now, 2 porn sites, another porn torrent site, a site where you can customize a several thousand dollar sex doll, TMT, TMZ, the blog of a model I've become obsessed with, 4 Google searches of things found in that blog, a Google search for "Hotpocket alternatives," 2 chess articles, the Wu-Tang wiki page, and a Google search of an actress I've recently become obsessed with.

One of these things is fake.

What type of price range are you looking at- also, are you looking for a Sport type watch:



or a "dress" type watch?

the hot pockets alt?

Who's the model and who's the actress?

You did see this watch, right? what more do you need?

So what makes a good watch in the watchfan world? Keeping very accurate time? Longevity?

edit: oh, and the watch scram posted wasn't ugly, but it would only look right on an old man sitting in a golf clubhouse

It was the sex doll. There's a reason for the Hotpockets that I won't get into.

Model:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elyse_Sewell

http://elysesewell.livejournal.com/

Actress:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbie_Cornish

What about a skinny Asian kid who needs a special child's band?

I assumed that was a given. Everything looks fashionable on skinny Asians.

If I'm any guess of the professional poker player, I think he wants something a little more.. gaudy, but also something that combines the gaudiness with quality workmanship, not just pure bling.

Accuracy over time is a big one. Durability is another one. Quality of materials is the biggest.
For example, a cheap watch has a pallet fork that is CNC'd and installed. A good watch has a pallet fork that is hardened, fitted, polished and tested for perfection, one at a time. It's the difference between 20 minutes and 5 hours- for one single minuscule part. The microscopic little gear teeth inside of a Breguet are individually polished.

Complications and functions add value (Like, remember when that dude on HSP had that disgustingly ugly bling watch- someone jokingly asked how much it cost and Hellmuth looked at it, saying that it couldn't be too expensive because it didn't have a "tore-bill-on" - he was talking about a "tourbillon" (tour-bee-yon) which is a rarified sort of movement with a wee little rotating subwheel reserved for only the very top timepieces.

Fitting and general attention to detail is a huge one and adds immensely to the expense.
You can never understand what goes into a good watch until you see the inside of a Zenith under microscopy- and then, you still don't really understand until you see a Patek or a Roger Dubuis under the same conditions.

For example- Jacob watches are high end "fashion" watches. They're basically diamond encrusted bracelets that just so happen to keep time as an afterthought. Patek Phillipe watches are extremely hard-core and precise timepieces that involve massive amounts of hand-fitting, complex manufacturing, high level engineering, etc. The value in a Jacob watch lies in what it could be sold for if the diamonds were picked out and the precious metals were melted down. The value in a Patek lies in the miniature little engine that is so insanely precise, it takes thousands of man-hours to assemble.

Damn, now I'm going to buy an $3,000 watch on impulse, just because I'm bored.

Scram- I currently have a TAG heuer, that I guess you would call sporty, so I'm looking for something a little more subtle and classy. RE: Price range. Nothing over 5k.

So realistically (real world functionality) those top notch timepieces don't do much for anyone that doesn't have to be somewhere in five years at a particular second without ever re-calibrating their watch?

I kind of want to wring your neck for being an idiot. But I won't...possibly because we don't know each other in real life so I can't find you, but mostly because I'm too out of shape to try and attack a 17 year old.

as far as keeping time, there's very little that those watches can do that like a 10 dollar quartz won't do. The point is the craftmanship in the clockwork, not the literal time keeping ability.

are vintage pateks as accurate as new ones? do they work forever? is service on them nearly impossible for less than a small honda?

That was as ignorant as it was out-of-line.

They also allow you to be all smug and uppity with people who wear lesser watches. It seems like I'm being sarcastic, but that's a major drawing feature for someone as insecure as I am.

I want a nice watch, and by "nice" I mean under $200. Just something classy to wear for interviews and formal events etc or possibly a night out on the town. I figure this is probably the best place of any to ask even for such a low price.