alright mods give me like an hour before u move this. so i am in this classical myth class and have an essay on the aeneid tomm and could use some help. anyone who has read it here is the prompt and hopefully i can get some good feedback due to the fact i didnt buy the book or read it

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Below you will find the essay prompt for your third exam. Read it carefully. You may write notes, an outline, quotes, etc. on this sheet to assist you in writing the exam. This means that you must print this sheet out and write your essay notes on it—not on a separate piece of paper (those will not be allowed). You will be permitted to only use notes that are written/printed on this sheet. You may NOT write out the entire essay—that must be done during class time. When you arrive to class on exam day, take this sheet with your notes, attach clean writing paper, and give both to me before class begins. If you do not have this sheet, another will not be provided (and you won’t be permitted to look at someone else’s prompt). After you have turned in the objective part of the exam, you will pick up your sheets and have the balance of class time to write your essay.

Writing Prompt: On the last essay exam, many of you noted that one of the reasons that Homer told the story in the way he did was to show all aspects of Achilles’ character. Achilles is portrayed in battle, on the sidelines, interacting with his mother, grieving over a friend, challenging the king, etc. The audience also learns about Achilles through other characters talking about him. How can Vergil’s Aeneid be compared to the Iliad in regard to the development of Aeneas’s character? Does the reader get to see all facets of Aeneas’s like he/she gets to see Achilles’s character? What do you think and why? Why would this be important (or not) to the Aeneid?


Your essay should contain an introduction with an overall point that addresses the prompt and specific reasons that support this point. The essay should be organized by these reasons and supported using specific information from class notes, discussion, and reading. Your essay should also contain a conclusion that does not merely restate the introductory paragraph.

common i know someone here has read this wonderful piece of me wanting to take a nap

I have read it, but I (probably like everyone else here) can't remember a damn thing from it.

that is the exact reason y i didnt read it. i usually get "help" from other people in the class during the exam but the kid i usually get "help" off of is leaving early to go home for the weekend to philly and isnt taking it with us

You don't need feedback, you need someone to write it for you. Good luck with that.

When I saw the thread title I thought that you were an extraordinarily bad drunk typer trying to say "I need help". Obviously I wasn't a big fan of the classic myths.

lol no i was meaning i need the outline done lol hoping someone has something on it and it was fresh and trust me i hate classic myth especially when the teacher is a feminist who hates me.

Read it (in Latin), CRADT.

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page will have a copy if you feel like reading.

Perhaps she hates you because you're a cheating plagarist who wants to skate through her class without even bothering to try and do the basic assignments?

Nah.

nah i would go witn me taking naps during class and actually answering a phone call in there but w/e we want to go with.

Never read it, never heard of it.. Good luck, bum.

reaaaalllllllllllllllllllllly never would have guessed lool

Yea I dunno. Even if I did remember enough of both stories to help you I probably wouldn't. You're coming off as a total douche.


Anyway, try spark notes.

Your entire should focus on the two most important points in Aeneas' life: his parting with his father and his killing of Turnus. I would also discuss when on his way to Italy when he stops to weep before a memorial of the Trojan War. These moments more than any others outline his character.

Your main point should be that Aeneas is a pussy. Honestly, this is quite true. The guy carries his father though a battle when it's clear that his father isn't going to make it and is holding him back. He then embarks on his epic quest to begin the Roman Empire, the greatest empire in the universe (according to the intended audience of the author). But on his way, he sees a little picture and starts crying. I mean, what a total loser. This is supposed to be our great hero? Come on.

In this way, he's very much like Achilleus. He was a total loser as well. The beginning of the Iliad began with him whining over some girls that were taken from him. Boo frickin hoo. You're supposed to be the greatest warrior of all time! You're supposed to be gaining immortality though battle. You're supposed to die a glorious death on the battlefield and be remembered forever for it. That's how the Greek mind worked: there is nothing greater than being heroic. Yet the two most important heroes of the Trojan war were total pussies.

I mean, look at the last two sentences of the book. Aeneas has his arch enemy wounded on the ground. He has his sword in his hand. Yet he has to stand there, wondering whether or not he should kill him. THERE SHOULD BE NO HESITATION!. You jam your sword though his heart, win the battle, found Rome, and be remembered forever.

Anyway, I'm not so sure as to exactly what the question wanted, but I think you could write a strong essay comparing Aeneas to Achilleus, and I would use the three examples that I posted above as the main bodies of your essay.

Nah.

No worries, it's only probably the most important piece of literature ever. I'm sure it's no big deal.

I'm just an ignorant tard.

PS. Tell that to PSU, the person who actually has to read it.

I think you're a grad student? Anyway you might be able to relate to this.

I was proctoring a test and two people were trying to share a calculator. How retarded is that?

at least i have heard about it u turd

btw i thought everybody poops is most important literature of all time i guess just me

Dude, it's so uncool that you stopped them. Fucking narc.

Are you going to hijack your own thread?

Okay, I'll go with it................. The only reason you've heard of it is because you HAVE to read it. Now get reading.

u im doing my essay on this

it would've been so awesome to rip a test in half though

It would have been...but you were probably right not to. I hope you did your best to embarrass them at least a little.

I think me walking up to their desks scared them enough. me having to tell them that sharing a calculator is not proper procedure was probably embarrassing enough or at least rattled them a bit.

alright i just had my friend read this and she said that the teacher will not like it becuase it makes fun of him for having feelings and she is a feminist so she wont be happy with that but im going to use it anyways so ill keep everyone know how it goes.

p.s. if anyone else has some good idears let me know since i have no clue about the boook and need all the info i can gets

I'm really enjoying this thread.

lolz glad i could be of some assistance

Edit: Aww LLY you complete me.

gracias, amigo

Dude, fuck that, drop the class.

I could go into a longish-type rant about the evils of Feminism*, but I'll do that while I'm working on my 10 page biography of President Truman for my History Class.

*At least, if I'm correct in my interpretation of the way psu describes it.

easy, doctor, easy.

Any commentary on the Aeneid should be written in dactylic hexameter.

Based on the content and style of his posts in this thread do you really think he's accurately describing anything?

aeneid sounds like 'i need'. i picture it being said by the fifth element. i giggled.

LLY wins (that's obv what the teacher/prof is going for), except for the fact that he thinks the aeneid>the odyssey.

edit: maybe that's not what she's going for, but LLY is right. if you wrote that essay, and wrote it well, she'd have a damn tough time not giving you an A. if she's really committed to the idea that complexity of character to the point of weakness is presented as an unequivocal virtue in hellenic times, she's a stupid slut.

Too lazy to even check SparkNotes and Wikipedia, huh?

dude youre a moron. wikipedia could have told you all that you need.

I don't know why I find this post so funny. I think it has something to do with the fact that you have been a huge asshole lately, and now you ask the forum for help.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you, I just think it's hilarious.

lol donkaments

Milla Jovovich? She is hot. (to me anyway)



I think I see what you're doing there.

yup, said in her just-learning-english voice. "aeneid... hellllp...."

Yea, that part gets me going. She seems very vulnerable and open to suggestion.

see the aeneid and the ilyiad and what not (however you spell them), all that old greek and roman stuff was good. all about fighting and kicking ass and the occasional banging of some foreign chick. good entertainment. but you know what really freaking sucks? beowulf. total garbage. and now they're making a movie out of it. what the hell people? was there no more shakespeare left to do? I'd much rather see any shakespeare play made into a movie than that freaking beowulf. well except for a midsummer nights dream. that was crap.

Harry Potter books are much more relevant. Especially now that dumbldore has been outed.

They already did that in 2005 - it was called Grendel.

the 1981 animated grendel was very good.

Aeneas has to hesitate there. He is a rational, thoughtful hero specifically contrasted to the violent, brutish enemy. He represents reasoned judgement whereas Turnus represents unrestrained emotion. He's not a pussy, he's just civilized.

so now there's gonna be 2 movies about it? jesus mary and joseph. well just go ahead and make a movie about oprah's life you fucking faggots. jesus.

No, he was just a pussy.

Hey, you take a trip to the underworld and back then you can call him a pussy.