Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.45
UTG+1: $36.40
CO: $25
Hero: $43
SB: $24.20
BB: $33.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q 4 J Q
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $1.1, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: Q 8 7 ($5.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.75, UTG+1 raises to $13.75, Hero??

You cannot be serious. BBFIDTS.

um, ya I am. no bbf required, I didn't lose, but I'm still not convinced that shovelling is the right play with 250 draws out there.

It definitely is. UTG+1 is going to have a lower set more often than any other hand and UTG could easily fold to a push here. I guarantee you make at least $10 on average by pushing here. Probably more.

Instashovel AINEC.

If you shove and get one caller your worst case scenario is facing a wrap and flush draw hand like J 9 T 6 in which case you are only about a 55:45 dog and still might make money in the long run because of how much is already in the pot.

If you shove and get two callers your worst case I can think of, wrap and flush draw for one hand and KKAA for the other, you would still have more than a 35% chance of winning the hand.

So even in worst case scenario you are barely -EV (possibly slightly +EV with the dead money in the pot), which in no way will offset the 90+% of the time you are a big favorite.

Never fold top set when it's the nuts on the flop. Ever.

Damn you, i'm 0 for 4 in situations like this so far in my omaha career.

But yeh, don't fold here.

so ya, I shoveled, turn 9x, river was a - both draws hit - buddy flips over Q7, for top and bottom pair, NO redraw, and I tid.