BigLebowski
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 1:40 PM
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
ConverterStack sizes:UTG: $28.90
Hero: $25.15
Button: $22.90
SB: $35.95
BB: $23.50
Pre-flop: (
5 players) Hero is CO with A

Q

Q

J
UTG folds,
Hero raises to $0.85,
2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: J

8

J

(
$1.8, 2 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $0.9, BB calls.
Turn: J

(
$3.6, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
River: Q

(
$3.6, 2 players)
BB bets $3.6,
Hero raises to $11.75,
BB raises all-in $21.75, Hero ????
I have the 2nd and 3rd nut on a tight board with the Ac. Must I donate this $10 even though it is pretty obvious what he has? Opponent has done nothing to make me think he is pulling off some super bluff.
KoRnholio
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 1:44 PM
I'd say chances are about 50/50 that he has the straight flush or is going nuts with KK/AA here. Gotta call.
ghostlove
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 2:02 PM
um yeah. u have to.
the only hand that can beat u is the 9c10c X X
um, yeah. 2nd nuts. why wouldnt u put him on just a flush or a straight?
i mean, it is .10/.25
anyways, yeah id call
and u prolly did and he turned up the straight flush, right?
bdc30
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 2:09 PM
If he has the straight flush, that's just disgusting, but you have no choice but to pay it off.
Why didn't you bet the turn?
BudBundy
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 2:36 PM
Not going broke here is very very weak.
KowboyKoop
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 3:59 PM
I mean...I know this is PLO......hand standards are a lot different than holdem...but good lord, can this EVER be a fold...........if this is a hand that you have to fold sometimes in this game, than I will never ever play. Seems absolutely rediculous to me.......especially at low limits.....
simo_8ball
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 4:27 PM
I don't fold.
I think it should be a fold.
BigLebowski
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 5:28 PM
As bad as people talk about this limit type of player, there are very very few of them that would do this with anything short of a solid hand.
I obv didn't fold and paid off the straight flush. I know I can't fold, but if there is an instance where you just know you have to beat then this is it.
iggymcfly
Wednesday, October 24th, 2007, 8:54 PM
If the guy's a regular and you really know his play well, then yeah this is foldable, but against anyone you have <500 hands on, I think paying it off's the correct move. The other day, I was playing with a guy with tight stats who reraised me on the river on a paired board and I folded the 2nd high boat (behind top boat and quads), thinking he'd have to have a good boat there to reraise and it turned out he though he was value raising an A-hi flush because he was tilted that I'd made a "crazy push with QQ" against his AA earlier when I had 14 outs. The point is that at low stakes, people make a lot of crazy plays. It's not really something exclusive to low stakes either, but moving down lately, I've noticed that I'm better off calling down with weak hands against a lot of players until I really get a feel for how well they understand the hand values in PLO.
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