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BigLebowski
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.90
Hero: $25.15
Button: $22.90
SB: $35.95
BB: $23.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_spade.gif Q icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_spade.gif
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif ($1.8, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.9, BB calls.

Turn: J icon_suit_heart.gif ($3.6, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: Q icon_suit_club.gif ($3.6, 2 players)
BB bets $3.6, Hero raises to $11.75, BB raises all-in $21.75, Hero ????



I have the 2nd and 3rd nut on a tight board with the Ac. Must I donate this $10 even though it is pretty obvious what he has? Opponent has done nothing to make me think he is pulling off some super bluff.
KoRnholio
I'd say chances are about 50/50 that he has the straight flush or is going nuts with KK/AA here. Gotta call.
ghostlove
um yeah. u have to.

the only hand that can beat u is the 9c10c X X

um, yeah. 2nd nuts. why wouldnt u put him on just a flush or a straight?

i mean, it is .10/.25


anyways, yeah id call

and u prolly did and he turned up the straight flush, right?
bdc30
If he has the straight flush, that's just disgusting, but you have no choice but to pay it off.

Why didn't you bet the turn?
BudBundy
Not going broke here is very very weak.
KowboyKoop
I mean...I know this is PLO......hand standards are a lot different than holdem...but good lord, can this EVER be a fold...........if this is a hand that you have to fold sometimes in this game, than I will never ever play. Seems absolutely rediculous to me.......especially at low limits.....
simo_8ball
I don't fold.

I think it should be a fold.
BigLebowski
As bad as people talk about this limit type of player, there are very very few of them that would do this with anything short of a solid hand.

I obv didn't fold and paid off the straight flush. I know I can't fold, but if there is an instance where you just know you have to beat then this is it.
iggymcfly
If the guy's a regular and you really know his play well, then yeah this is foldable, but against anyone you have <500 hands on, I think paying it off's the correct move. The other day, I was playing with a guy with tight stats who reraised me on the river on a paired board and I folded the 2nd high boat (behind top boat and quads), thinking he'd have to have a good boat there to reraise and it turned out he though he was value raising an A-hi flush because he was tilted that I'd made a "crazy push with QQ" against his AA earlier when I had 14 outs. The point is that at low stakes, people make a lot of crazy plays. It's not really something exclusive to low stakes either, but moving down lately, I've noticed that I'm better off calling down with weak hands against a lot of players until I really get a feel for how well they understand the hand values in PLO.
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