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BudBundy
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $60.25
CO: $17.75
Button: $13
SB: $163.90
BB: $48.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 8 icon_suit_heart.gif A icon_suit_spade.gif 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_diamond.gif
Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J icon_suit_diamond.gif 3 icon_suit_heart.gif 6 icon_suit_diamond.gif ($5.75, 3 players)
SB bets $5.75, Hero calls, CO raises all-in $16, SB calls, Hero

fold/call/push?
simo_8ball
Raise the flop.

As played, I shove.

I icon_suit_heart.gif AA+FD
bdc30
I'd probably flat call, but be ready to get it in if the SB pushes.
KoRnholio
SB already called on the flop. Sets push over here almost always. Puuuushhhh
BudBundy
Simo why do i raise the flop?

Don't we want CO to stick around with the tiny stack of his? If i raise he is calling with any set and probably folding a weaker flush draw or 54 or something. But if i call he may flat call or push with KK with FD or top pair + FD or something. Why do i raise and charge CO?
simo_8ball
I'm scared of playing postflop poker so I just mash the pot button frantically until I either win the pot or donk off a stack.
simo_8ball
I don't mind flat calling but we are going to be HU on the turn most of the time, probably facing another large bet with no idea where we are. We don't really want to see any (non diamond) 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, J on the turn.

I'd like to take the initiative in the hand and prevent SB's TdJxQxKd from catching two pair without paying.
BudBundy
Yeah it sounds good. I think i was relying on my position.
iggymcfly
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Tuesday, October 23rd, 2007, 2:38 PM) *
Simo why do i raise the flop?

Don't we want CO to stick around with the tiny stack of his? If i raise he is calling with any set and probably folding a weaker flush draw or 54 or something. But if i call he may flat call or push with KK with FD or top pair + FD or something. Why do i raise and charge CO?


We raise because we don't know if our AA is good or not. We're never getting it in bad with 11 outs to the nuts, but we can get it in really good if we're up against a combo draw or something. Even against two pair, we're getting it in in a favorable situation and we may have some fold equity there too. In general in PLO, when you have a hand where you're not su what turn cards you want, but you know you won't be worse than about 40% on the flop, you're best off raising and trying to get it in.

As played, SB's basically saying he does have a combo draw or maybe even a naked wrap, so definitely push.
bdc30
Iggy, I thought you were going to jail last we heard - all that work out for you?
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