Only an idiot would take a bet without seeing the matchups. I'm a little disappointed there are only 2 games, I was hoping for 3.

oh and I wish the Outback would have taken Ole Miss instead , lol......south carolina is prolly the worst sec team in a bowl game this year. In fact, yes, they are the worst.

Shonn Greene, Sir.





Iowa would beat LSU, Ole Miss or South Carolina with very little problem. Rest assured.

maybe, maybe not

but yeah i do think they should beat South Cacky in the outback but I'm takin the bet for shits and giggles anyways

Iowa may be the best team in the Big10 as far as how they ended the year

4 losses by 12 points..that's unreal.

See I really don't get this. It's not like they were gonna match up Florida vs Minnesota or something crazy like that. You had to know coming in that the matchups would be roughly based on where the teams end up finishing. And acoording to you the Big10 is roughly on par with the SEC. You didnt step up when you had a chance to. As it turns out, I think between the two games we are wagering on, its gonna come out 1-1. What would have been sooo stupid to take this bet when first proposed it? I'm pretty sure you were prolly worried that either Penn State/OhioSt would have had to played Florida/Alabama. I guess if you were worried about that happening then hey, I dont blame you for backing out because that one would have been a freebie for me.


Oh, and somehow the Big 10 gets two teams in the BCS which is a ****ING JOKE. Maybe after Penn State and OSU get OWNED people will finally realize that its a joke and these teams can't hang on the big stage.

I'm gonna quote this just in case.

boy you're walking out on a limb there
just lol

I think they'll likely lose both BCS games, but to act like it's a foregone conclusion is just plain silly. Penn State's defense is VERY good and it's not like this USC team is setting the world afire. Derrick Williams is a poor man's Percy Harvin. Ohio State can win if Pryor and Wells play to their full potential and the defense with Jenkins and Laurinaitis can somehow hold down McCoy.

You know whats a bigger joke... preseason rankings. Georgia #1...

Gene Chizik was just named the new head coach at Auburn.

Yes, that Gene Chizik..the one who just led Iowa St. to a 2-10 record.


HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH......epic fail. Firing Tuberville was so, so stupid.

lol Auburn just looks really really bad right about now

I thought Bama firing Mike Shula a couple years ago was too hasty and a little foolish....but at least they replaced him with an obvious upgrade and a proven winner. Auburn is just so stupid right now.....replacing a proven winner with Gene Chizik. That's just as bad as it gets....

Since this is the default SEC thread...

ISU's coach leaving for Auburn has been getting a lot of airplay around here, and today I found this article interesting.

I was just coming here to post the same article. I'd have to say he's dead fucking on. It's a shame this kind of thing is still present in the deep South.

As far as football goes...it'll be fun to beat up on Auburn for the next few years while this clown is the coach.

Just a quick question. Why is that crappy team from the mediocre SEC whopping the shit out of Georgia Tech?

Get my SEC bragging in while I can, I still think Bama is going to lay an egg.

...and the first few minutes of the Sugar Bowl go exactly as I predicted. Alabama has come out completely flat and clearly doesn't feel like playing. Wide open pass dropped, two botched blocking assignments, confusion on a snap count..all in the matter of four plays. Utah gets the ball and they score in 1:19 as the defense stands around and looks at their dicks. I predict a Utah rout. We have mailed it in.

I'm really happy everyone is getting to see the MWC can hang with the big boys, it's really huge for the conference.

21-0 Utah. Saban should just put the 2nd team in at every position. Our guys clearly don't want to play. Nice effort douchebags.

Utah looks amazing though.

It's really too bad that college football is so stupid that a team like Utah literally has zero chance to win a national title, no matter what happens all year. Truly a pathetic situation.

It's as if our players have actually forgotten how to play football. I mean that in the most literal way possible. I have never seen so many mistakes in one quarter. Mind-boggling. I guess if you're gonna play bad, you may as well go all the way. I hope we give up two safeties later just for fun.

well the Bama marching band sounded good atleast......

In all seriousness Utah came out and just exploded and Bama was on their heels. The 2nd quarter Utah's offense kinda came back to earth. Gonna be tough for Bama to come back because they dont really know how to do that, havent had to all year. They gotta stop Utah on first possession of 2nd half and Bama needs a quick TD........if that happens then Bama wins imo

Props to Utah, definitely impressive

Bama is still playing pretty god-awful. Utah is executing pretty well. Just way the fuck too many mistakes to even think about winning this game. Picked a pretty bad time to play the worst game of the year.

QFT

Even if they hold on to win tonight, in the final polls/standings they'll be behind the Fla-OU winner, USC, and Texas if they win.


Run the table undefeated and finish #4 is a little nuts.

can't wait to hear what the BCS officials have to say now........

Just a quick question, why is a SEC powerhouse that was rated #1 for 5 weeks about to lose to a team from MWC?

Oh, Michigan only lost to them by 2 points by the way.

..because if you had listened to me as I've been saying for a while now, we came out flat and clearly weren't interested in playing.

I love how you try to play some margin of victory game. I am sure you will be saying that Utah is the true national champion now, you know, since Florida only beat Bama by 11 and Utah beat them by 14..thus, Utah > Florida, right??

We played awful b/c we simply weren't motivated and Utah was, simple as that. Happens in sports all the time. Oklahoma lost to Boise St. a couple seasons ago...I'd say their program and conference has turned out okay.

LOOOOOOL

I was very impressed with Ole Miss and their game plan going into the TT game. I picked them to win and they sure made me look smart. I think if there wasn't as big of a break before the bowl game then Texas Tech would have had a lot bigger advantage. I just wish Ole Miss beat Bama earlier in the year so Bama couldn't go to the Sugar Bowl. (no clue if they'd still be there if they lost to Ole Miss)

Listen, the only confrence that really has the right to crow is the Pac-Ten, which is 5-0 in bowls. Everyone else has had extremely mixed results. And next year the pac-10 will be mocked as weak ( except for USC, obv), same as it always is.

The Pac 10 is still weak besides USC. That didn't change.

And if that's true, then all of you and koop and every else's crowing about bowl results is meaningless.

Pretty sure the only crowing I've done is about Iowa winning and laughing at Koop for Alabama's implosion.

The more I look at it, the less I think bowls are any real measure of anything. Lotta times there's too much of a layoff or no real reason to play other than pride.

Also, it's just a bit goofy. Think of it like this.. if Oregon State had beat Oregon, the Big Ten probably would've won at least 5 bowl games. Penn State would've beat Oregon State again, Ohio State would've beat Georgia, Michigan State would've beat South Carolina, Iowa probably would've beat Missouri, Northwestern probably would've beat Kansas and Minnesota would've been a coinflip against Florida State and Wisconsin would've played the Blind Women's Sewing Circle Bowl and lost because they're terrible.

Instead, getting two teams in the BCS made their matchups way less than favorable. So by having two very good teams, the conference's reputation suffers..that's ridiculous.

I agree. That's why I always take dogs in bowl games. It seems to me that the underdog has much more to play for than the favorite, who probably thinks they deserve to be in a more meaningful bowl against a better opponent.

Shhhh, logic isn't allowed when discussing the SEC and how much better they are than everyone else.

dude you live and die by the Big10s bowl record vs. the SEC.......and now all of a sudden you agree that bowl results are pretty meaningless because the Big10 is getting owned this year. You would be the last player picked in a debate team draft imo

Actually I'm agreeing with him that matchups are fluky, and how all the Big-10's matchups were decided by a game that didn't even involve a team in the conference.

I also think it's hilarious how the Big-10 gets ripped for losing to regularly to USC in the Rose Bowl, when the same thing would happen to pretty much any SEC team that went out there the last 5-7 years.

SEC delivering

In all seriousness, though, Alabama is way ahead of schedule.. They may have crapped the bed against Utah, but I think Utah is better than people give them credit for. With Satan as their coach, 'bama's going exactly no where, and Neither is Koop's outlandish pro-bama hype, unfortunately.

Why you think I'm rubbing this in now?

*yawn*

So...let's see...6-2 bowl record, Florida holding that "unstoppable" OU offense to 14 points...bwahahah

Three straight national titles from the conference. The SEC championship game was the national title game. This was just an afterthought. OMG I'm just loving this right now.


SEC..the best conference in college football. Suck it Big 12, you were overrated just like I said you were two months ago. It's just amazing that so many people get fooled by teams racking up big points against sh*tty defense. One day perhaps people will learn that football is about defense and the offensive line and controlling the ball..ALWAYS. That's why the SEC is the best...all that fluke sh*t that works in the Big 12 all whatever just doesn't measure up.

Yeah, I'm an a$$hole..and I'm also right 95% of the time. Eat it haters.

Oh, you are an asshole, but I'm right there with you on this one.

Pretty sure I called this back in September.

I'm as big an SEC homer as there is but I disagree with this. We saw the two best teams playing tonight for the title. Maybe USC and Utah, yes I said Utah, have a slight argument. I respect Alabama(well more Saban than the school) but they arent a top 4 team imo.

BTW, I'm waiting for someone to start a "Big 10 Delivers" , "Big 12 Delivers", etc thread........why isn't there one?



















oh, nevermind

Pac-10 is 5-0 in bowl games and aren't nearly as bad as everyone thought clearly. Makes USC's argument as the best 1 loss team in the country very legit. Utah has plenty of wins over top 25 teams and are undefeated. This is the BCS title, not really crowning the best team in the country because without a playoff we never truly know.

Alabama can't beat Utah, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, PSU, OSU, or USC.. LOL at Koop trying to make Alabama look good because a different team won.

Also the Big-12 just went through the same thing the SEC did the last few seasons. They look good only losing to each other while not playing any real ooc competition and inflating their ranks so that when they do lose they don't drop off as much as they should, and then look what happens to them.

Florida is the only really good team in the SEC this year, second best team was Ole Miss anyway, not Alabama.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!! Okay.....keep dreaming. I don't need to make Bama look good, they had a great year and gave the national champ all they could handle on a neutral field. They were winning in the 4th quarter...they came close to being the ones to shut down OU's offense. They clearly just came out flat in the Utah game....you just want to use that one bad part of our season to mean so much more than all the rest of it. You've clearly gone delusional in your quest to deny that I've been right about, well, pretty much everything this CFB season. Sorry, try again next year when my Bama team is once again a top 5 team and your team is once again a top 100 team...well, maybe, let's not stretch things too much.

Depends on how many players you end up having take gifts from agents and lose their eligibility. No excuse for coming out flat in a BCS game ever. Utah's offense rolled Bama, which means any quick strike offense from the Big-12 likely would have done the same.

Last nights game probably plays out a lot differently if it happens two weeks after conference title games instead of a month. It's pretty easy to see why defenses usually have the edge in bowl games.

Do you see me making excuses for Bama coming out flat?? I could come up with some if you really want..like our best O-lineman missing the game or two others getting hurt during the game..but I'm not talking about that. We came out flat b/c we were letdown after losing to Florida and missing out on the NT game. Simple as that..and perhaps you don't remember, but I predicted it would happen and predicted that Bama would lose to Utah. There is no excuse, we played very poorly to start the game and it cost us the game. All I am saying is that one bad game doesn't take away from the season we had or how good of a team we were.

Your statements of "any quick strike offense would've done the same" against Bama is clearly inaccurate...but since you are clearly grasping for straws here to prevent complete embarrassment, I won't try to argue with you too much. Utah's offense scored on us when we came out flat. After the D finally pulled their heads out of their a$$, they did just fine. Just acting like any good Big 12 offense would just do whatever is ridiculous, considering all three of the Big 12 title contenders looked bad in their bowl games. Texas barely snuck by a decent Ohio St. team, Texas Tech couldn't even hang with Ole Miss in a home game..and OU's offense was clearly far less effective than usual against an SEC defense...but don't let facts get in your way..keep dreaming.

Yeah, last night's game probably does play out differently if they played it at a different time? So what, that is 100% irrelevant to anything. If they played the game in mid-May, it would be different too. Florida's offense was better than OU's, Florida's defense was better than OU's, and Florida's special teams was better than OU's. Simple as that....same as always. The SEC dominates again. Why don't you try to argue next about how fluky our three straight national titles are.....perhaps the fourth will change your mind finally.

That offensive lineman doesn't play defense, Miss.

Bolded: Wrong...

Florida dominated, and not by much considering Oklahoma picked off Tebow as much as he had been all season. The reason it's relevant is because no offense in the country was playing as well as Oklahoma's was at the end of the season. I think the time off hurt their timing, not to mention losing their homerun running back affected them a bit. I'm not making excuses, I was pulling for Florida in the game because I don't like Oklahoma or their coach, and while a lot of the credit should be given to Florida that doesn't mean the layoff didn't have an effect. Defenses tend to play better after a long layoff than offenses.

But equating Florida beating Oklahoma to the SEC being the most dominate conference is clearly a stupid leap of logic.

AP final poll has 2 teams from the SEC in the top 10. You know what other conferences can claim the same thing... the Big-12, Pac-10, Big-10 and MWC who has the only undefeated team in the country. So dominate

Pac-10's bowl record is a bit of a mirage.

Cal won a home game against a mediocre ACC team (wow that hurts to write that but it is true now)
Oregon (top 3 Pac 10 team beat OK State (4th or 5th best Big 12 team) in a game played on West Coast
USC won a home game against the 2nd best team from a bad conference.
Oregon St. won 3-0 in a bowl game that was ridiculous due to a freak wind storm.
Arizona beat a MWC team (5 hours from campus....although in this case the opponent was also close to the bowl site).

It is nice they went 5-0. But that does not make them the best conference.

The Big 12 was exposed a little in the bowls. Texas should have lost to a team that can barely throw the ball. Tech get rolled by the only team to beat UF. OU's offense was handled by UF (though their D proved that the Gator offense was not that great, just effecient). OK State lost. Makes you kind of buy the notion that they look great against each other.

The SEC is still the best conference in college football. But the gap closed. Pac 10 got closer. The non-BCS schools are getting closer. I dont think Utah is the best team in the country. At all. But I do think it is messed up that the only undefeated team (which beat 4 top 25 teams and crushed Bama in what was essentially a road bowl game) never had even a 1% chance of winning the title at any time. Terrible system. At least in college basketball the mid majors have a "chance" at winning. Every team should have a chance.

Oh and the Big 10 is going to be really good again by 2010-2011. Paterno still recruits well. Ohio State will only get better. And Michigan will succeed with Rich Rod.

On a personal note, if Miami is not really good again either this year or next ( and by really good I mean win the ACC and get to a BCS bowl) then it may never happen again. They had a great run considering it is a small private school.....and it would be really bad for the ACC and college football if Miami went away from relevance....but it has been half a decade since they were even "good" so the danger is actually there.