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Freddec
sigh.....college football season over.......ready for next year.........here's my preseason top 5 for next year...

1 USC
2 Georgia
3 Florida
4 Ohio State
5 ??????? ok, so a top 4 will have to do for now


quick thoughts.....If Michigan was healthy when they played OSU this year they would have destroyed them....Ohio States defense was not impressive at all, the reason they were ranked #1 in the nation was because they played against a bunch of bad (and hurt, UM) offenses in the Big 10........LSU is not the best team in the country and they pretty much owned.......is OSU a top 10 team in teh country? serious question
Jadaki
QUOTE (Freddec @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 11:31 PM) *
quick thoughts.....If Michigan was healthy when they played OSU this year they would have destroyed them....Ohio States defense was not impressive at all, the reason they were ranked #1 in the nation was because they played against a bunch of bad (and hurt, UM) offenses in the Big 10........LSU is not the best team in the country and they pretty much owned.......is OSU a top 10 team in teh country? serious question


Yea they are.

I think it's hard to put a top 5 list until we see who leaves early and recruiting classes are finalized. OSU could lose some serious talent to the draft, I'm not that familiar with USC's roster but they always have tons of guys with pro-talent who could go early.

Is Georgia losing anyone important?

I wouldn't put Florida top 5 unless the land a solid RB who will take some of the load off Tebow and Harvin.
pocket3s
QUOTE (Freddec @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 9:31 PM) *
sigh.....college football season over.......ready for next year.........here's my preseason top 5 for next year...

1 USC
2 Georgia
3 Florida
4 Ohio State
5 ??????? ok, so a top 4 will have to do for now
quick thoughts.....If Michigan was healthy when they played OSU this year they would have destroyed them....Ohio States defense was not impressive at all, the reason they were ranked #1 in the nation was because they played against a bunch of bad (and hurt, UM) offenses in the Big 10........LSU is not the best team in the country and they pretty much owned.......is OSU a top 10 team in teh country? serious question


I am so sick of you Georgia people and you USC people with your whining and complaining. Can we have one phuckig championship? They tell us to win this game, we win the game. We beat Oklahoma in '04 and now we beat OSU. I'm sorry that the people who make the decisions don't feel like a team who can't win their division shouldn't be in or that a team who loses to a team who struggles with mediocre opponents all year, then turns it on at the end shouldn't be in. You know what, if you want to be in don't lose by 30 to Tennessee and don't lose to Stanford. LSU had 2 games all year where a key component of our offense or defense wasn't out or playing at below 80%. We lost 2 games in the toughest conference in football AND we managed to make it to our championship game where we beat the team that pounded Georgia. We are the best team in the country, and while I want a playoff system so I don't have to hear all these teams trying to claim OUR National Championship. It's not going to happen this year. Mark Richt and Pete Carroll and their fans should stop crying and belittling LSU because they didn't get it done.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (pocket3s @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 11:03 PM) *
I am so sick of you Georgia people and you USC people with your whining and complaining. Can we have one phuckig championship? They tell us to win this game, we win the game. We beat Oklahoma in '04 and now we beat OSU. I'm sorry that the people who make the decisions don't feel like a team who can't win their division shouldn't be in or that a team who loses to a team who struggles with mediocre opponents all year, then turns it on at the end shouldn't be in. You know what, if you want to be in don't lose by 30 to Tennessee and don't lose to Stanford. LSU had 2 games all year where a key component of our offense or defense wasn't out or playing at below 80%. We lost 2 games in the toughest conference in football AND we managed to make it to our championship game where we beat the team that pounded Georgia. We are the best team in the country, and while I want a playoff system so I don't have to hear all these teams trying to claim OUR National Championship. It's not going to happen this year. Mark Richt and Pete Carroll and their fans should stop crying and belittling LSU because they didn't get it done.



agree completely and I dont like LSU OR think that LSU is the best team in the country.

When your team has two losses you cant complain. This really should be a rule. Two losses, no complaints. IF you lose twice, you leave yourself to the whims of polls and conjecture. The only team that has ever deserved to complain was Auburn in '04 (i think thats right) when three teams from big conferences went undeafeted. Thats the scenario. Otherwise just shut up. It is ridiculous. As an addendum to this rule, if you lose to a team like this year's Stanford squad you really need to get a life. You cant lose to a team of that quality and then bitch and moan that you deserve the crown.

And Ohio State should be banned from the National Championship game on principle for at least two years.
Jadaki
USC wasn't the best team in the Pac-10 this year anyway, that was Oregon who beat USC soundly.

If Dixon stayed healthy the Ducks would likely be parading around a trophy and no one would be complaining about it.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 10:19 AM) *
USC wasn't the best team in the Pac-10 this year anyway, that was Oregon who best USC soundly.

If Dixon stayed healthy the Ducks would likely be parading around a trophy and no one would be complaining about it.



true. them's the breaks. if you want to feel some sympathy for a team feel it for Oregon. They got screwed (relatively) in 2001 too. (no way they beat miami but they deserved a shot)
pocket3s
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 10:21 AM) *
true. them's the breaks. if you want to feel some sympathy for a team feel it for Oregon. They got screwed (relatively) in 2001 too. (no way they beat miami but they deserved a shot)


No kidding, God must hate them. Not only does their QB get hurt, they have to go to Ryan Leaf's little brother as a backup. Sheeesh.
Freddec
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 10:33 PM) *
Is Georgia losing anyone important?



No.....we have 18 returning starters coming back, and the 4 who are leaving weren't really difference makers,
Freddec
QUOTE (pocket3s @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 11:03 PM) *
I am so sick of you Georgia people and you USC people with your whining and complaining. Can we have one phuckig championship? They tell us to win this game, we win the game. We beat Oklahoma in '04 and now we beat OSU. I'm sorry that the people who make the decisions don't feel like a team who can't win their division shouldn't be in or that a team who loses to a team who struggles with mediocre opponents all year, then turns it on at the end shouldn't be in. You know what, if you want to be in don't lose by 30 to Tennessee and don't lose to Stanford. LSU had 2 games all year where a key component of our offense or defense wasn't out or playing at below 80%. We lost 2 games in the toughest conference in football AND we managed to make it to our championship game where we beat the team that pounded Georgia. We are the best team in the country, and while I want a playoff system so I don't have to hear all these teams trying to claim OUR National Championship. It's not going to happen this year. Mark Richt and Pete Carroll and their fans should stop crying and belittling LSU because they didn't get it done.



Were you directing this at me???? I'm a UGA fan and I have NOT ONCE COMPLAINED ABOUT GEORGIA NOT MAKING THE BCS CHAMP GAME!!

why dont you go back and reread my posts after the bowls were announced......geez dude

I HAVE NOT BELITTLED LSU ONCE MORON AND NEITHER HAVE MOST UGA FANS.........you are clueless

congrats LSU.....most UGA fans were pulling for you

cant wait till we come down to Baton Rouge next year and whoop yalls ass though......
pocket3s
QUOTE (Freddec @ Monday, January 7th, 2008, 9:31 PM) *
sigh.....college football season over.......ready for next year.........here's my preseason top 5 for next year...

1 USC
2 Georgia
3 Florida
4 Ohio State
5 ??????? ok, so a top 4 will have to do for now
quick thoughts.....If Michigan was healthy when they played OSU this year they would have destroyed them....Ohio States defense was not impressive at all, the reason they were ranked #1 in the nation was because they played against a bunch of bad (and hurt, UM) offenses in the Big 10........LSU is not the best team in the country and they pretty much owned.......is OSU a top 10 team in teh country? serious question


O rly?
pocket3s
QUOTE (Freddec @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 2:04 PM) *
Were you directing this at me???? I'm a UGA fan and I have NOT ONCE COMPLAINED ABOUT GEORGIA NOT MAKING THE BCS CHAMP GAME!!

why dont you go back and reread my posts after the bowls were announced......geez dude

I HAVE NOT BELITTLED LSU ONCE MORON AND NEITHER HAVE MOST UGA FANS.........you are clueless

congrats LSU.....most UGA fans were pulling for you

cant wait till we come down to Baton Rouge next year and whoop yalls ass though......


ya rly
Jadaki
QUOTE (pocket3s @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 4:06 PM) *
O rly?


A lot of people don't think they are the best because USC and UGA have played so well the last half of the season and without a playoff we will never truly know. However under the current system they were crowned champs, good for them.
Freddec
QUOTE (pocket3s @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 2:07 PM) *
ya rly




ummmm.....you think thats "belittling"?

wow, little soft huh?


I think LSU is a DAMN good team......I just dont think they are the best in teh country.....if you take that as an insult, well sorry bud, i speak how I feel

They won the BCS Championship Game, therefore they are National Champs thsi year......congrats.....I'm very happy they absolutely OWNED Ohio State
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 10:19 AM) *
USC wasn't the best team in the Pac-10 this year anyway, that was Oregon who beat USC soundly.

If Dixon stayed healthy the Ducks would likely be parading around a trophy and no one would be complaining about it.


Q.F.T.

And if USC had beat Stanford..

And if my Aunt had a dick she'd be my Uncle, and so on..

I know, any number of teams can play the injury card, but, man.. Oregon was soooooo good.


QUOTE (Freddec @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 2:00 PM) *
No.....we have 18 returning starters coming back, and the 4 who are leaving weren't really difference makers,


Yikes..that's a tough team ya got. Now if you can only win your division and maybe even your conference... icon_biggrin.gif
Freddec
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 2:24 PM) *
Yikes..that's a tough team ya got. Now if you can only win your division and maybe even your conference... icon_biggrin.gif




yeah thats the idea......we've won the conference a couple times in the last 5 years

next year is supposed to be THE year.....this year was actually a rebuilding year, kinda like OSUs
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (Freddec @ Tuesday, January 8th, 2008, 2:31 PM) *
yeah thats the idea......we've won the conference a couple times in the last 5 years

next year is supposed to be THE year.....this year was actually a rebuilding year, kinda like OSUs


Yah..they were a tough squad. They can keep healthy and keep their heads, no reason they shouldn't be right in the NC mix next year.
Freddec
ESPN is now pretty much the SEC network........freakin $2 BILLION+ deal


http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...espn_deals.html



oh, and you knew this thread was gonna get fired up again at some point this week......
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (BigLebowski @ Sunday, November 25th, 2007, 6:21 PM) *
PLEASE PLEASE for the sake of the G.O.D. give Hawaii an SEC team in the BCS game.



QUOTE (BigLebowski @ Wednesday, December 12th, 2007, 6:07 PM) *
Wished upon a star Nov 25th and my Xmas dreams are coming true.

I couldn't have selected a better team for Hawaii to play. Give them the team everyone in the lower 15, particularly GA, thinks should be in the national championship game. There's one thing UGA fans have plenty of and that's excuses. I can't wait to hear them when Hawaii rolls UGA for 50.



I guess we know who the least knowledgeable football fan on here is. Wow.
Freddec
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Tuesday, August 26th, 2008, 6:47 PM) *
I guess we know who the least knowledgeable football fan on here is. Wow.



lol yeah we havent seen him around these parts since he made those statements.......


btw happy birthday
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (Freddec @ Tuesday, August 26th, 2008, 11:09 PM) *
btw happy birthday


Thanks man.
Tactical Bear
I hate SEC fans. I probably hate all of you.


Nothing personal.
Freddec
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Tuesday, August 26th, 2008, 8:03 PM) *
I hate SEC fans. I probably hate all of you.
Nothing personal.




lol definitely not taken personal......but may i ask what school you pull for??


GO DAWGS
Tactical Bear
QUOTE (Freddec @ Wednesday, August 27th, 2008, 5:26 PM) *
lol definitely not taken personal......but may i ask what school you pull for??


GO DAWGS


I'm a pretty big Michigan fan.

And I really, really, really hate the SEC
Jadaki
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Wednesday, August 27th, 2008, 5:02 PM) *
I'm a pretty big Michigan fan.

And I really, really, really hate the SEC


Oh man, we have something in common.
Jrobb25
WAR DAMN EAGLE.
Tactical Bear
QUOTE (Jrobb25 @ Thursday, August 28th, 2008, 11:29 AM) *
WAR DAMN EAGLE.


A friend of mine in college had a buddy that went to school there, and whenever he came to town -- about once a year -- he demanded we all speak with southern accents so he'd stick out less in Ann Arbor. I could say two things in Southern:

"War Damn Eagle"

and

"Icebox"


I keep those two sharp, just in case.

WAR.DAMN.EAGLE
SGFULTON83
SEC is THE college football conference! Top to bottom the SEC is the front-runner IMO, and GO GATORS!
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (SGFULTON83 @ Thursday, August 28th, 2008, 9:30 AM) *
SEC is THE college football conference! Top to bottom the SEC is the front-runner IMO, and GO GATORS!


Might want to catch up on the thread there, champ.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Wednesday, August 27th, 2008, 2:02 PM) *
I'm a pretty big Michigan fan.

And I really, really, really hate the SEC



What do you think of the Rich Rod era? The vast majority of Mich fans I've talked to hate it.
Jadaki
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 1:10 AM) *
What do you think of the Rich Rod era? The vast majority of Mich fans I've talked to hate it.


Whats the point in hating it when he hasn't even coached a game yet?
CBass1724
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 2:10 AM) *
What do you think of the Rich Rod era? The vast majority of Mich fans I've talked to hate it.



QUOTE (Jadaki @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 9:07 AM) *
Whats the point in hating it when he hasn't even coached a game yet?


Once he gets his own recruits in there, they will be way better than WVU ever was with him. There is no Pat White type of guy on the Michigan roster this year so it will be interesting to see how it goes.
Jrobb25
Anyone see Tim Tebow call in to Dr. Holtz last night? Please Teabow start taking advice from Holtz the SEC will be a lot happier place if u do.
Jrobb25
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Thursday, August 28th, 2008, 11:45 AM) *
A friend of mine in college had a buddy that went to school there, and whenever he came to town -- about once a year -- he demanded we all speak with southern accents so he'd stick out less in Ann Arbor. I could say two things in Southern:

"War Damn Eagle"

and

"Icebox"
I keep those two sharp, just in case.

WAR.DAMN.EAGLE



Throw in a Ya'll and you will be set.....Do it all while drinking a PBR and no one will be the wiser.
Tactical Bear
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 2:10 AM) *
What do you think of the Rich Rod era? The vast majority of Mich fans I've talked to hate it.


I love it. He actually has a strength training program in place. Michigan will be better this year than people expect, partly because the athletes he has are finally going to be in good shape.
Jadaki
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 11:29 AM) *
I love it. He actually has a strength training program in place. Michigan will be better this year than people expect, partly because the athletes he has are finally going to be in good shape.


QFT.

People who got away with slacking in the off season aren't going to get by anymore, it's one of my favorite parts of the new staff. I loved Carr but he was almost a little too nice.
Tactical Bear
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 2:02 PM) *
QFT.

People who got away with slacking in the off season aren't going to get by anymore, it's one of my favorite parts of the new staff. I loved Carr but he was almost a little too nice.


Really? Every Michigan fan I knew hated Carr. I hated Carr so much. He was so conservative and stupid.
Jadaki
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 1:48 PM) *
Really? Every Michigan fan I knew hated Carr. I hated Carr so much. He was so conservative and stupid.


I liked him. There were times I wished he wasn't so laid back when it seemed like they needed a good kick in the ass and he didn't give it to them. That's why I like this move to RR, he seems to be the exact opposite on the intensity scale and that's probably what the program needs.
Freddec
QUOTE (Tactical Bear @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 8:29 AM) *
I love it. He actually has a strength training program in place. Michigan will be better this year than people expect, partly because the athletes he has are finally going to be in good shape.



shocked they never had one before....I assumed all major programs did this in the offseason
Jadaki
QUOTE (Freddec @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 4:02 PM) *
shocked they never had one before....I assumed all major programs did this in the offseason


They did but RR is sort of notorious for having a pretty rigid off season program.
Tactical Bear
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Friday, August 29th, 2008, 11:50 PM) *
They did but RR is sort of notorious for having a pretty rigid off season program.


And Lloyd Carr doesn't believe in things like free-weights or throwing on both first AND second down.
Jrobb25
Say what you will but, there is just not a better conference top to bottom. As an Auburn fan I HATE Alabama but they kicked the shit out of clemson and it's just no suprise. Our 2nd tier teams are better than most 1st tier....Ie last 2 Nat championships weren't even close. The SEC needs to leave the NCAA and start its own league. It's just that much better.
Freddec
Clemson, and the rest of the ACC is just an absolute joke. I remember like 4-5 years ago when FSU and Miami joined the ACC everyone (including myself) thought this would be a good thing for the overall strength......its actually been the complete opposite. I think they've lost like 9 straight BCS bowl games and have NO significant out-of-conference wins (oh wait wake forest beat baylor thurs night)

ACC, GTFO
Big Ten, Big East, almost GTFO
Pac10, Big 12, respect
SEC, delivers
thats all
SuitedAces21
Auburn 3 - Miss St 2.

Ummm, me thinks Auburn might be overrated.
SuperJon
Gators win it all this year.
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (SuperJon @ Monday, September 15th, 2008, 6:39 AM) *
Gators win it all this year.


I am a Gator fan and still don't want to say this till they actually play a good team! This weekend is our first test of the season, ask me Sunday but USC and Oklahoma look strong early on, but we still have a long season ahead.
Jrobb25
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Saturday, September 13th, 2008, 10:33 PM) *
Auburn 3 - Miss St 2.

Ummm, me thinks Auburn might be overrated.



ummmm overrated? Maybe I mean when u have a brand new scheme it's gonna be hard at first. But show mw a better defense. No one tackles better than Auburn. I guess we will see how good they are on sat against LSU. But SEC 5 teams in top 10. LOL at the rest of the confrences. The SEC should just leave the NCAA and play against themselves.\

WAREAGLE
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (Jrobb25 @ Monday, September 15th, 2008, 10:10 AM) *
ummmm overrated? Maybe I mean when u have a brand new scheme it's gonna be hard at first. But show mw a better defense. No one tackles better than Auburn. I guess we will see how good they are on sat against LSU. But SEC 5 teams in top 10. LOL at the rest of the confrences. The SEC should just leave the NCAA and play against themselves.\

WAREAGLE


The only conference that comes remotely close IMO is the Big 12. I would really just like to watch SEC teams play Big 12 teams all year and throw in USC thats all we really need to see!
Jadaki
QUOTE (SGFULTON83 @ Monday, September 15th, 2008, 9:17 AM) *
The only conference that comes remotely close IMO is the Big 12. I would really just like to watch SEC teams play Big 12 teams all year and throw in USC thats all we really need to see!


You're right, because the SEC has been undefeated in bowl games the last 5 years rolleyes.gif
SGFULTON83
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Monday, September 15th, 2008, 10:46 AM) *
You're right, because the SEC has been undefeated in bowl games the last 5 years rolleyes.gif


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Jadaki
QUOTE (SGFULTON83 @ Monday, September 15th, 2008, 10:56 AM) *


2008 bowl games...

Michigan 41 vs Florida 35
Missouri 38 vs Arkansas 7

2007 bowl games...

Tennessee 10 vs. Penn State 20
Arkansas 14 vs. Wisconsin 17

That's 3 loses in bowl games to Big-10 teams in the last two years, but that should be ignored just because OSU lost in the title game twice.
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