True, just shows how far from reality Sabin is.

yeah Saban is nothing but a joke..........but he will have 'Bama back in the top 25 on a regular basis soon I think.......


I knew after Bama lost the LSU game their season was gonna go straight to the shit can.......you could just see the life drift right out of the bodies of their whole sideline after that game......



Jadaki.......don't even try to compare this loss to the couple I-AA loses the Big 10 has this year.............lol, good try though, i don't blame ya....it was an ugly loss but no one will remember it next year........the App State game will be talked about for years......

I'm guessing the two time I-AA champ would contend for the Sun Belt championship.

SEC delivers again!

Mods, can you change this thread to "SEC Does Not Deliver"?

uummmmmmmmmmmm.........so one sec team beat another.............lol.........Big 10 wishes they had the excitement an Sec game has.........and they never will, never have......


I would LOVE to see Michigan try to stop McFadden/Felix Jones..........hahahahah......you guys are a joke.........your posts TOTALLY contradict itselves........


triple OT game....and you say the SEC doesnt deliver........we have the most competitive and entertaining games EVERY WEEKEND.........THATS CALLED DELIVERING.........HOW MANY BIG 10 GAMES DELIVER EACH WEEKEND??????????????




yeah..........thats what i thought.........now go shovel your sidewalk please........

SEC people are dicks

Speaking of contradicting yourself.. does this post mean you think there's parity in college football?

Jesus, you must have failed English 101.

You know what the SEC just delivered... no team in the NT game. Have fun being the best conference with a bunch of above average teams but no great ones. I haven't seen any team in the SEC this year that can play good defense for a full game, as evidenced by nearly every team averaging over 30 points a game.

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SEC def gets props this week. The LSU/Arkansas game and the Tenn/UK games were exciting, although zero defense in each one.

...scuse me?

You have to pardon the guy who was tossing out physical threats toward Michigan fans.

TN having a shot to win the SEC is hilarious.

Rather ridiculous. At this point, I just wish LSU's crazy-ass end-of-game play against Auburn hadn't worked out. (Granted, there are a lot of other routes...but that's the easiest.)

I think you guys will have to forgive at least a couple of the higher scoring SEC games as they went to multiple overtimes...which is somewhat exciting. Auburn and Alabama managed to keep the score fairly reasonable. Obviously, that's not a complete excuse, and I'll still agree that this is a down year for the conference.

I'm rather bummed that Kansas got knocked off by Missouri. I wanted Kansas and Hawaii to be the only undefeateds...which should've forced an overhaul of the BCS system. Here's the thing though...if you're D1A and you go undefeated, and no one else does...you deserve to be in that title game. I don't care what your schedule is...it's the same division. If you don't like it, break up the division...but don't pretend that all of these teams are on "par" and then treat them differently when it comes to the end of the season.

it is worse than parity. The truth of the matter is that there was not one team worthy of being called #1 this year. Everyone kinda stinks. If LSU was any good would they have just lost to a team that is completely one-dimensional on offense??? It is all a huge joke. Any of these so-called title contenders would have had their asses handed to them by any champion from 2000-2005.....


this is like parity on steroids. therefore, it is silly to debate which conference is best since every conference has been a mess this year. big ten stinks, SEC is wayyy down, pac-10 is the only one that held up this year.....just unlucky Dixon got hurt.

Nothing to forgive, those OT games have been entertaining but defense has taken a second seat to offense in the SEC. I suppose it's to be expected considering some of the coaches that are there.

Just a generalization, but SEC fans that live here in Ohio are deff dicks.

Gl pokering today.

Don't have a favorite team, but grew up 20 minutes from Cal so I root for Cal/Big 10. I won't try to argue for them though as I don't know enough about them.

However, I have lived in the ATL for 7 years now and I can say I get a HUGE laugh out of the SEC nuthuggers. My wife and I hang a flag for whatever team is playing GA that week. I love it!! Tennessee winning the div and having a shot at a BCS game is the biggest joke in the country. Obviously the SEC didn't think they were a very good conference since pretty much everyone is going to a west coast style offense and not recruiting defense anymore.

It has nothing to do with strength of schedule, but rather a complete lack of consistency from top to bottom of the SEC.

USC would beat any SEC team right now by a minimum of 10 points. I'd bet my car on it.

What is going to make me really sick is if both TN or LSU AND GA make it to a BCS game. That would be a travesty.

PLEASE PLEASE for the sake of the G.O.D. give Hawaii an SEC team in the BCS game.

Remember the Yankees have their own network and make tons of money off of it. Probably because I would imagine they get all ad revenue vs only getting a portion of it if they were in a deal with a major network.


The only problem with the big 10 network is that they want people to pay extra for the channel even though your team might only play 1-2 games a year on it. Kind of like the NFL network.

what about them? Tenn is one of most overrated teams every year, South Carolina lost their 5 games, bwahahaha. They aren't any better than Penn St or Purdue IMO.


And arguing about soft OOC scheduling is so stupid. Every big school does it, they have to. The small schools need the paycheck they get to get killed in front of 100K people.

I think OSU would have a better shot at beatling LSU than Florida, if you look at the last 2 OSU losses they got beat by very mobile QB's. Flynn doesn't really have that threat. Maybe I'm biased but I think it's a toss up.

Penn St on the road is a completely different team than Penn St at home, but Tenn just doesn't impress me. They seem to find a way to lose every key game they play.

Mich St should beat Vandy, and I think Mich St will improve in the future with Dantonio there.

Minn vs Miss is just painful to think about

Everything else looks pretty spot on.

"What is going to make me really sick is if both TN or LSU AND GA make it to a BCS game. That would be a travesty. "


You don't actually think Georgia does NOT deserve an at large bid do you? Seriously? They've beaten Okl. St, Florida, at Ga Tech, Auburn (by a WAY bigger margin than FL or LSU), and at Alabama. Their only blemish is the home loss to South Carolina by 4 pts early in the year. Not a bad loss, and losing at Tennessee is nothing to be ashamed about (right Cal fans? Remember, you stomped TN this year, but they stomped you at home in 2006. Pac 10 fans seem to conveniently forget this fact). Georgia, in my opinion, is surely one of the top 10 teams out there.

I think the BCS shapes up like this: Title Game: WVU v. Missouri, Ohio St. v. USC Rose Bowl (good game). I think Va Tech wins the ACC, and LSU wins the SEC championship. Then the at large teams will be Hawaii, Georgia, Arizona St., and Kansas. Georgia and Kansas definitely have the advantage of no conference championship loss to sneak in there.

And what is so bad about Tennessee this year? I don't get it. Losses at Cal, at Florida, and at Alabama weren't exactly bad losses last time I checked. When you have the best record in your part of the conference, you get to the conference championship.

I think Georgia should be a lock for a BCS game, they are a solid team.

Look at the scores of those losses for Tenn, 45-31 59-20 and 41-17. They have 1 good win(UGA) and a few mediocre wins (ARK, UK). They should have lost to Vandy also and got really lucky.

I can't believe you are lobbying for Okl. St, Alabama, and Ga Tech as quality wins seeing as they are a combined 1 game above .500. Auburn had one quality win all year and Florida was the model of inconsistency. Their defense left something to be desired and the 3 times they scored less than 30 points they lost.

TN was not very good this year. They got mauled in their 3 losses, luckboxed against Vandy and Kentucky, and only beat South Carolina by 3 points. They showed up for one game this year and let's face it, as much as I dislike UGA, if they played tomorrow it wouldn't even be close.

I think Hawaii should get the #3 team in the nation. They deserve it. Anyone remember the Boise State bowl game last year? Everyone was saying the same thing about them as they are about Hawaii this year. Unfortunately, I think if Oklahoma and Tennessee pull out wins it will leave Hawaii out of the BCS.

Oh, and I certainly haven't forgot about the azz-whooping we took last year at TN. Just glad we were able to return the favor this year.

Uhh...Auburn beat Florida. Also, bragging about beating Alabama this year (when they lost to ULM) isn't much of a brag.

They beat florida in the Swamp thats a great accomplishment
and im just pissed that we will finish the year top 10 and not play in a BCS bowl and well probably end up in a match against zook in the capital 1 bowl
also if Ohio St. makes the championship i will kill someone and ga. is a good team but not good enough to play in the NC

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No defense = great conference



The Pac 10? Really? You seen Cal's record? UCLA--THAT UCLA? USC loses to Stanford, at home...? Arizona State gets blown out by the same USC team that got beat by Stanford..? Say what?

I won't comment on Oregon, because Dixon going down is sick, and I wanted them to win the National Championship..but, come on..There wasn't one remarkable, oustanding league anywhere this year..which was my point all along. The SEC is not >>>>>>>> Big Ten, or anyone else.

I am a Pac 10 man and I wouldn't even argue for their superiority this year. Wouldn't it be sweet to have conference battles to start the season kind of like what they do in basketball? Of course that would leave everyone arguing at the end of the season because "that was 3 months ago".

Looks like we will get to see...

Well we will get to see Florida vs. Michigan too
See which confrence is better
Ill put my money on Florida in this one

Yes..Florida versus Michigan will truly decide which conference is better, once and for all.

No way it could just be another bowl game with two teams who had disappointing seasons where one team probably mailing it in and the other is going to play inspired football for God knows why.

Oops.

(Seriously though...the system's a joke.)

The SEC gets to brag now that they were the first to have the media so brainwashed they should put a two loss team in the game... joke is an understatement.

LOL at Les Miles arguing LSU is not a two loss team because they lost those games in triple overtime. Who does he think he's fooling?

In fairness I think losing in triple overtime isn't as bad as losing in regulation. In Triple OT you are forced to go for two so a lot of it can come down to luck.

They do need to look at OT, maybe start from the 40 or something. It seems way too easy to score, you already start in FG range.

In some ways I like it the way it is because it makes for some exciting finishes like we saw in the SEC this season and in a few WAC games too. I do like your idea though if we want to really find out who the better team is.

Freddec, tell me what you think about Georgia being ranked right below OSU and getting snubbed? I think that is very unfair to them. BCS is a jopke.

Uh, what?

before Saturday Ohio State was 3rd and Georgia was 4th correct? Is it not obv i was asking him how he feels about LSU jumping them?

It seems like you are saying Georgia was ranked higher than LSU in the final BCS rankings, not the rankings before LSU won their conference championship.

I think a prerequisite for playing in the national championship game should be that you win your conference first.

Um..It wasn't obvious or I wouldn't have asked. Read JJJ's post for why one might be confused.

Also, Georgia has no beef as they didn't win their division, let alone their conference. Beat South Carolina and a mediocre Tennessee team and then you don't have to worry about it.

LSU in the title game is a joke. They have been completely lucky about 4-5 times this year, and the "undefeated in regulation" argument is laughable.

LSU and Georgia have 7 opponents in common this year. Georgia has beat teams LSU lost to or beat them by more than LSU did 4 out of the 7 times. And Alabama was 3 pts for GA, last minute TD for LSU. LSU beat SC and Tennessee, but GA lost to Tennessee at TN, not on a neutral field, and LSU beat SC by a fake FG late, and a defensive TD in the SEC title game. I don't see how Georgia should be punished for being in the tougher half of the SEC and losing a tiebreak.

The national championship game should be between the teams that are playing the best RIGHT NOW. The 2 top teams. Ohio St makes it in. I think Georgia has a legitimate gripe. OK, so you have to win your conference argument next. Well, if you want it that way, make it a rule. Nebraska got in a few years ago that way.

So LSU goes from #7 to #2? What??? They jump Va Tech, who beat a better team by more points. (yes, I know they played and LSU beat them....12 weeks ago)

Enough LSU bashing. How bout a 8 team playoff please? Add the Cotton and Cap One to the mix, play 4 on Dec 23, 2 on Jan 1 and the title game on Jan 7-8.

I don't agree with the right now part. I think it should be the two best teams over the entire year.

If it is the teams that are playing the best right now, why would Ohio State be in?

Exactly.. using that idea, a team like say, Florida State, could drop it's first three games and pull their shit together and win out, go 9-3 and be in the National Title game? What? No.

Besides, if it's for the teams playing best right now, why play the first 10 games or so?

They didnt beat them 12 weeks ago. They annihilated them 12 weeks ago. If anyone should be pissed it is Hawaii.......

Last year though ppl said Florida didnt deserve to be in the championship game. They said we had close games like a 1 point win over South Carolina on a blocked FG and a poor performnce against Vandy and look wat happened. LSU is a good team that yes got lucky a few games but I think they are one of the best teams in the country

Wished upon a star Nov 25th and my Xmas dreams are coming true.

I couldn't have selected a better team for Hawaii to play. Give them the team everyone in the lower 15, particularly GA, thinks should be in the national championship game. There's one thing UGA fans have plenty of and that's excuses. I can't wait to hear them when Hawaii rolls UGA for 50.

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Georgia is ridiculous... they have traveled something like 350 total miles for non-conference games in 10 years.

Check out some of the information here.

And Florida...

For what it's worth, Auburn's played USC, Syracuse, and Georgia Tech away while I was in school. And, they're playing West Virginia next year.