PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($5.30)
MP2 ($9.68)
MP3 ($6.62)
CO ($9.50)
Hero ($9.90)
SB ($2.60)
BB ($6.08)
UTG ($9.94)
UTG+1 ($3.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20.

Flop: ($1.07) K, K, K (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks

Hero??

lol.

if any of the players are calling stations I bet, most people will bet on the button with or without a hand...

RACISM!

This one is acceptable to check. At least give SOMEBODY a chance to pair. You can only lose if somebody is slowplaying A-A and the turn and river bring the case aces.... so check.

Check and hope for a highcard on turn and bet then.

Almost this exact same situation was presented to scott fischmen in a Cardplayer (fish tank or whatever..shark tank.. idk) and he said that he is almost always betting. If you are going to make a decent amount of money, you are going to need to play a big pot. If you check, you are keeping it small and will be luck to get someone committed.

Make the most scared continuation bet of all time. Bet 25 cents. If everyone folds you weren't gonna make much money anyways. No one is going to give you credit for the king and an underpair could easily raise you.

I am glad you stated this, because with a certain amount of ambivalence I bet. They all folded, and to be honest I had no idea what to do in this spot.

This is probably the way I would play it, you could bet and everyone would fold or you could increase the pot by checking and hoping someone hits something worth betting.

If you check after your pf raise it looks suspicious (unless you usually fail to c-bet).

I'd bet 1/3 - 1/2 the pot. If you're going to make any more money on this hand, you may as well start building the pot here. It has been checked to you on the button with a set on the board. No one is going to give you credit for a K because it looks like you're stealing. My guess is they all folded because no one had an A to float with.

I make my standard cbet here and hope someone has something. It sucks, but you cant get action that isnt there.

What exactly can they have?

A pocket pair?

a c-bet from the button doesn't really scream quads... have to bet if you c-bet a lot. IMHO.

Most of the time I raise preflop I c-bet regardless.

Also, if you just check this and wake up when someone catches on the turn or river, you look much stronger than if you just c-bet here.

This is .02/.05. Hardly anyone at these stakes is playing smart.

Not checking this is sort of retarded. Betting half the pot is super retarded. The ONLY thing you're getting any action from here is a PP, and if you check, they're still going to put their money in on the turn. Plus, you're really begging someone to make a decent full on the turn. The Zeebo theorem is nice for this hand. No one is folding a full. If the turn is an Ace, you're getting stacked almost 100% of the time since this is 10 max, and if the turn is a 10, J, Q, you're getting action. Pocket Pairs, as I said, are still going to come after you if you delay c-bet this and bet the turn.

Just check, you have the board crippled. If the competition was better, I can see why you would want to bet, but here, there just isn't a point.

Precisely. People at these stakes tend to call if they think you don't have it, regardless of what they have but especially with an ace. Rarely will they ever think someone has quads. I think you end up making more money by betting here.

Guys - its 4 to the flop. If you think checking there is suspicious or that a c-bet is standard you have leaks

Giving your opposition too much credit is a bigger leak.

Don't be ridiculous.

If you c-betting when you miss with 4 to the flop you're daft

I check.

Believe me no one on that table will even begin to think "Oh my, he raised before the flop and didn't make a continuation bet, my suspicious poker playing sense is tingling, i'll proceed cautiosuly".

Just check, if no one's bet to you there's a high chance they're all folding to a bet so let them get a free card to catch something and not give your quads away.

As you raised that much PF, there are probably going to be people holding a Q, J or A so let them hit their hand and bet into you, or let them bluff at it on the turn.

I think betting here is really bad.

Yeah, but I think I'd c-bet a XXX flop a lot more often 4-ways than I would any other flop...

By that same token though, I'm expecting them to have missed too often, and fold enough for my c-bet to be profitable... hence the opposite of what we want to acheive in betting here...

I'd probably check. The key to the hand is the number of opponents. If it were HU or 3-handed I'd probably bet it. With 4 opponents your flop check does not look suspicious and there is more of a chance that someone will fill up on the turn or start thinking that their 88 is the nuts.

Good post.

It is a plausible check here and I am representing a hand like AQ.

Yeah, there is a chance that a c-bet may chase out the smaller pairs as well right? or do you think the 33s and the 44s are coming along away?

From my experience villain's with 66-99 think they have a great hand in this spot when the flop gets checked around.

The key thing to remember though, is that we cannot always get value out of our monsters, sometimes our opponents holdings just do not facilitate it. There is nothing we can do sometimes, it just happens, try not to let it get to you when you flop a monster and it doesn't get paid off. This is especially the case with quads, you are often not going to get any value as it is so hard for your opponents to have anything reasonable here, basically something like 99 is the best you can hope for.

Sklansky for one says that you should never ever slowplay when you flop the unbeatable nuts. His basis for this is that in the long run you will lose value by not fully charging hands that will pay you off, as opposed to the relatively few times you do actually trap an opponent.

Problem is, if you bet it even a random moron will put you on some kind of pocket. They might not believe you have a K, but the flop has pretty much no texture at all wich allways gives the aggressor a certain amount of respect and everyone gladly folds and waits for the next hand.

I´d check it on that limit with so many PF-callers. Might even check it to the river and get tricky there instead in case no one has attacked the pot yet. Example of a possible outcome:
Turn is an X, but river lands an A. Its checked around to you, and you make a tiny bet. Someone minraise you (with his "slowplayed" rivered A), you come back with an extreme overbet. To a bad player (wich he is if he minraise you in that spot) this screams that you share the ace and the voices in his head tells him to call for a split no mather the size of your bet. Similair might happen on the turn as well.

Guess the point is that you will rarely get payed in that spot unless you get really lucky and are up against bad players. Might as well not rule out the possibility.

Open fold when they check to you. It'll blow their minds.

I think since you raised PF, min-bet and hope an A turns and someone gets frisky with you.

Some hands are beauties, but they just get no action.

well that all depends on the texture of the flop and your reads

didn't read replies.

bet if you like money. check if you don't.