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mkeller3086
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Button ($25)
Hero ($25.60)
BB ($24.60)
UTG ($25.40)
MP ($10)
CO ($44.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, MP checks, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB folds, MP folds, Button raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $8.6, Button raises to $27, Hero raises to $33.95 (All-In)
whiterice714
J T?


he's not limping 99 QQ KK...


he could have Q 9 / K 9 here i guess... but i think it's easier for him to have JT more than anything...


maybe lik J9ss /9Tss?
Craigdog
depending on the villians image, I don't see how you really get away from this, he could have a set but it's a tough fold after you raise $8.6.
Temporary Nuts
I mean... I guess the villain could be a total incompetent retarded fish that would get eaten alive by just the regular fish but...

What exactly 4bets this flop besides 9-9 and J-10?

I would find it hard to believe that somebody with A-K here could limp and trick himself into thinking OMG PAIRED ACE KING IS THE NUTS
JoeWalsh
JT or 99 (assuming the player is not a looney)? Can't put him on A9 spades unless he is a gambler. It is very strong play for anything less than 2 pair. I think there is a chance you could lay down to the $27 reraise but you are just as right going all in.

If I had no read, I would have folded.

If I know the player likes to gamble, I go all in.

If I have a read on how the guy plays top pair, I go all in.

Guess I think going all in the correct play against most players here, esp considering your stack and pot size.
JoeWalsh
QUOTE (whiterice714 @ Monday, October 8th, 2007, 6:23 PM) *
J T?
he's not limping 99 QQ KK...


I think there could be a 99 here - from my days at 25nl:

The players are generally either passive or have no idea as to hand values. Dude could have called preflop thinking he was slow playing a monster or being weak and hoping for a set. Depends on how aggressive the guy has been previously.
whiterice714
i just hate going broke in limped pots.....


realistically i'd probably have folded to the $27 & just put him on JT & angrily continued on w/ the session...
NoBBiR
CODE
15,840  games     0.047 secs   337,021  games/sec

Board: Qs 9d Ks
Dead:  

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    
Hand 0:     17.854%      17.40%     00.45%               2756            72.00   { KcQc }
Hand 1:     82.146%      81.69%     00.45%              12940            72.00   { JTs, JTo }


Against J10 we're about a 4:1 dog.

CODE
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  25,740  games     0.005 secs     5,148,000  games/sec

Board: Qs 9d Ks
Dead:  

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    
Hand 0:     37.075%      36.40%     00.68%               9369           174.00   { KcQc }
Hand 1:     62.925%      62.25%     00.68%              16023           174.00   { 99, K9s, Q9s, JTs, K9o, JTo }


This is a more realistic range, and we're better than 2:1 equity wise against his range, which is about what pot odds we're getting to go all the way on the flop.

CODE
27,720  games     0.005 secs     5,544,000  games/sec

Board: Qs 9d Ks
Dead:  

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    
Hand 0:     38.292%      37.65%     00.64%              10436           178.50   { KcQc }
Hand 1:     61.708%      61.06%     00.64%              16927           178.50   { 99, AsTs, K9s, Q9s, JTs, Ts9s, K9o, JTo }


Including big draws, I think we're usually incline to calling this getting more than 2:1 on the flop.

Oh and the money that goes in on the flop doesn't add up again. You raise to $33~ whatever all in on the flop but you started with $25.60
Zach6668
QUOTE (whiterice714 @ Monday, October 8th, 2007, 1:57 PM) *
i just hate going broke in limped pots.....

this is such a pointless statement.
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