cwik
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 1:19 AM
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
ConverterStack sizes:Hero: $205.95
Button: $106.65
SB: $151.35
BB: $199.05
Pre-flop: (
4 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero raises to $7, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop:

(
$16, 2 players)
SB checks,
Hero bets $11,
SB raises to $22, Hero calls.
Turn: 
(
$60, 2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero calls.
River: 
(
$136, 2 players)
SB checks,
Hero ???Can I bet this on the river? Do I need to bet the turn?
CBrownOSU04
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 2:48 AM
depends on read of player, how quickly he minraised, etc..., look at cardplayertv and brian townsends PLO video to see when a player immediately minraises he usually has nothing
ActionFalko
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 4:44 AM
QUOTE (cwik @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 1:19 AM)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
ConverterStack sizes:Hero: $205.95
Button: $106.65
SB: $151.35
BB: $199.05
Pre-flop: (
4 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero raises to $7, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop:

(
$16, 2 players)
SB checks,
Hero bets $11,
SB raises to $22, Hero calls.
Turn: 
(
$60, 2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero calls.
River: 
(
$136, 2 players)
SB checks,
Hero ???Can I bet this on the river? Do I need to bet the turn?
I don't think any SB would call with 25 or 57. So you are only beat by 66. But I would ignore this.
More often than not minraises mean strength or a draw. So I would definetly re-re-raise on the flop, with the plan to commit myself. I would play it very fast on the flop. He could have 55. So he has maybe 10 outs. Giving this I would play it very fast on the flop. Raise to ~$60 and push any turn.
krup24
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 4:46 AM
i think you missed a lot of cash here
if your gonna disguise strength on the flop with the smooth call of the min raise then you need to pop the turn hard. i can go either way by repopping the flop or waiting for the turn being in position. i think your line is probably the one that misses the most value.
this can be so many hands from the SB ranging from 33-JJ (exluding 44), 56s. We crush this range.
as played i still think we can bet the river but its kinda moot the way you played the rest of the hand. i'm just curious why you played this sooooooooooo slow.
danc1984
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 6:25 AM
Reraise the flop to $60 and call a push. As played I don't bet the river.
Kid DynOmite
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 6:31 AM
you smooth call on the flop is bad. your smooth call on the turn is really bad. In fact, I think "smooth" is the wrong word here. How about... your rough and cumbersome calls are bad.
No_Neck
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 6:39 AM
QUOTE (krup24 @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 8:46 AM)

i think you missed a lot of cash here
if your gonna disguise strength on the flop with the smooth call of the min raise then you need to pop the turn hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
as played i still think we can bet the river but its kinda moot the way you played the rest of the hand. i'm just curious why you played this sooooooooooo slow???????? I suspect it has something to do with running really bad.
I was going to type it all out then I realized I would just be retelling Krups post...
ROBBBIGG
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 6:42 AM
bet preflop, bet flop hard, bet turn, check river
DonkSlayer
Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 2:16 PM
As you played it, put in a 1/2 pot bet on the river. This is almost always an overpair or 2 pair from the villain.
Scott3705
Monday, October 8th, 2007, 3:27 AM
Gross. Thoughts behind not reraising him at the flop or C/Ring the turn? Did we really see 57 the whole way here? I probably bet the river as well. here.
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