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cwik
New to the table, no reads.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $254.95
UTG+1: $122.55
Hero: $241.95
Button: $110.85
SB: $283.15
BB: $229.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with ad.gif kc.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8h.gif jh.gif 8c.gif ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11, BB calls.

Turn: ks.gif ($37, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB raises to $68, Hero ???
krup24
put him all in. he only has $26 left after his raise not much you can do. if you raise the turn to put him all in it costs you $66 and you will be getting better than 2.5:1. sometimes i check behind this river and get to a cheap showdown.
danc1984
QUOTE (krup24 @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 10:51 PM) *
put him all in. he only has $26 left after his raise not much you can do. if you raise the turn to put him all in it costs you $66 and you will be getting better than 2.5:1. sometimes i check behind this river and get to a cheap showdown.


Pretty sure BB has like $130 and change left after his turn raise?
danc1984
With position I call and reevaluate the river. If he fires close to a PSB on the river I think I might fold. Tough to see him playing anything other than an 8 this way.
No_Neck
QUOTE (danc1984 @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 10:22 AM) *
With position I call and reevaluate the river. If he fires close to a PSB on the river I think I might fold. Tough to see him playing anything other than an 8 this way.



I don't think this is good at all, I think many players are going to fire if they hit or not, and you are basically guessing.

maybe I am wrong, I need to think about this one.
danc1984
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Monday, October 8th, 2007, 12:41 AM) *
I don't think this is good at all, I think many players are going to fire if they hit or not, and you are basically guessing.

maybe I am wrong, I need to think about this one.


Fair enough. Do you think we just need to fold to his turn check-raise? I am pretty sure that getting it in on the turn here with no read is -EV.
No_Neck
I don't see how we are beating his range after the turn check raise, without reads I dump it.
stevielarson
I cant see him doing this with anything that we beat. For sure I could see an 8 being played this way, I dont think he makes that play with AJ. KJ maybe? Although he probably should C/R the flop then.

I would tend to just dump this with no reads.
krup24
QUOTE (danc1984 @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 10:19 AM) *
Pretty sure BB has like $130 and change left after his turn raise?


yes i suck at reading posts thought it was button in the hand

with a big stack i keep the pot small even after i hit
AimHigher
QUOTE (stevielarson @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 4:45 PM) *
I cant see him doing this with anything that we beat. For sure I could see an 8 being played this way, I dont think he makes that play with AJ. KJ maybe? Although he probably should C/R the flop then.

I would tend to just dump this with no reads.


Good Analysis. I can't see him doing this with anything we beat either.

If you take the lead on a lot of flops, it would make sense that he would check call then check raise the king with an 8. Especially if he knows your preflop range. It could be some whacky steal but without knowing your image and his I am folding.

I could even see a flopped boat, he doesn't seem to be scared of the flush/straight draw.
Scott3705
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Sunday, October 7th, 2007, 7:01 AM) *
I don't see how we are beating his range after the turn check raise, without reads I dump it.
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