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Dictius
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Hero ($18.50)
SB ($9.80)
BB ($2.60)
UTG ($27)
MP ($9.85)
CO ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with jd.gif, td.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.10) 7s.gif, 8d.gif, qd.gif (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.1, BB raises to $2.25 (All-In), CO calls $2.25, Hero raises to $19.25 (All-In), CO calls $6.05 (All-In).

Turn: ($19.95) 5s.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($19.95) 4c.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $19.95

Is shoving on the flop ok?
biff_goods
I don't know if this is prude or not but, I think I would have flat called and re-evaluated the turn. It seems like you re-raised to isolate against the BB but when you do that you chase away your action if your monster draw hits and if either or both have a made hand and you don't hit you double up two people.
No_Neck
QUOTE (Dictius @ Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 7:40 AM) *
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

Hero ($18.50)
SB ($9.80)
BB ($2.60)
UTG ($27)
MP ($9.85)
CO ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with jd.gif, td.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.10) 7s.gif, 8d.gif, qd.gif (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.1, BB raises to $2.25 (All-In), CO calls $2.25, Hero raises to $19.25 (All-In), CO calls $6.05 (All-In).

Turn: ($19.95) 5s.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($19.95) 4c.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $19.95

Is shoving on the flop ok?



since they are so short I think this is fine. Just don't brick next time kthxs
Temporary Nuts
Absolutely get as much in here as possible. The *only* hand that you should be worried about is a higher fd... but we shouldn't play SC's preflop if we're afraid of that on this monster flop happy.gif
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 5:04 AM) *
since they are so short I think this is fine. Just don't brick next time kthxs


Yeah. Hard to add anything to this. except that the shove is better if you have an open ended or double gutter straight draw. But yeah. Not of lot of "playing" to be done here with the shorties.
Dictius
QUOTE (biff_goods @ Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 10:51 PM) *
I don't know if this is prude or not but, I think I would have flat called and re-evaluated the turn. It seems like you re-raised to isolate against the BB but when you do that you chase away your action if your monster draw hits and if either or both have a made hand and you don't hit you double up two people.



The point was to put as much pressure on the CO to fold, these types of draws are pretty much a coin flip and you can't make a profit flipping coins, you only make a profit when they fold.


Results.

The BB had 44 and the CO had A icon_suit_diamond.gif 6 icon_suit_diamond.gif. I think the Ad6d was getting close to the right price to call my all in?
Temporary Nuts
Well that sucks he held that... oh well.

Results not-withstanding you most certainly make money here by bloating a multiway pot. Folding is nice or whatever, but i'd get my money in here with two stacks that cover me like... always.
NoBBiR
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 5:04 AM) *
since they are so short I think this is fine. Just don't brick next time kthxs
whiterice714
don't let it get to you


i'm 0 for 9 on hitting ANY of my draws (straight or flush) w/ my OESFDz / GSSFDz as of late...



it's actually cost me over a few hundred dollars... i hate watching it brick-brick...
HijackedAffairs
Push is good. I always get it in here. You actually aren't that far behind the A6d here. 10 outs twice of course he has redraws.
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