strategy
Friday, April 25th, 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (RivrRaftr @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 1:41 PM)

I disagree...you can say that about a team like Dallas or Vancouver or even the Avs...but not Detroit. Detroit is a shut down team built to play with the lead...they are built specifically to avoid teams coming back on them and thats why they tend to struggle to come back from deficits themselves. The Avs were just asleep for the first period in front of a "sick" goalie...they were the better team for the rest of the game. But all that really matters is who won the game..and the 4 goals Detroit put in in the first period were enough.
Have you ever tried to drive with a cold? I don't know if this is true of everyone, but at least for me, I almost feel unsafe with how slow my reaction times are.
XXEddie
Friday, April 25th, 2008, 1:15 PM
QUOTE (Whiter Sr @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 6:50 AM)

The fact that the Avalanche came back was really not that big of a factor. When a team gets up 4 goals they tend to ease up a bit. I can't see Detroit losing game 2 unless Budai plays and stands on his head again.
Does it hurt to be that stupid???
No team, especially Detroit, should go from 4-1 up early in the second, to only up by a single goal going into the 3rd. Not to mention this was in Detroit. The Avs can compete with, and even outplay, Detroit at Joe Louis Arena.
Reports are Theodore missed today's morning skate, but is already back on the ice practicing for the later practice's. He will most likely play Saturday and will also most likely be playing like he was against Minnesota. Detroit will not get off to the same start they did scoring 4 goals so fast. I would also place money saying Detroit won't even score 4 goals in all of Game 2.
Forsberg is questionable for Game 2, Wolski is most likely out for the series. This is incredibly bad for the Avs, right? Wrong. Even without them, again, I'm not worried. We came back without them and came VERY close to tying the game in the 3rd, including Hejduk banking one off the post. I'm not gonna take anything away from Ozgood, he did play outstanding.
I'll predict the Avs win Game 2 by a score of 2-1.....3-1 if they add an empty netter.
RivrRaftr
Friday, April 25th, 2008, 3:24 PM
QUOTE (strategy @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 1:25 PM)

Have you ever tried to drive with a cold? I don't know if this is true of everyone, but at least for me, I almost feel unsafe with how slow my reaction times are.
I agree that colds suck...I'm just not 100% convinced that he actually had one..to me it looked like he coulda had the flu..but he coulda also just been good ol Theodore that I had until recently grown to hate for the last 2 years..call me crazy but I keep expecting him to slip back into the goalie hes been for the last 2 years. I learned a long time ago not to trust a word any hockey team says about the health of their players.
strategy
Friday, April 25th, 2008, 4:22 PM
QUOTE (RivrRaftr @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 6:24 PM)

I agree that colds suck...I'm just not 100% convinced that he actually had one..to me it looked like he coulda had the flu..but he coulda also just been good ol Theodore that I had until recently grown to hate for the last 2 years..call me crazy but I keep expecting him to slip back into the goalie hes been for the last 2 years. I learned a long time ago not to trust a word any hockey team says about the health of their players.
Yeah, I could see it being a psychological play for detroit. I never saw coach Q do something like that before in St. Louis, but I guess it's possible. re: theodore slipping... unless he's gone back on the coke, I have confidence in him.
SBriand
Friday, April 25th, 2008, 5:32 PM
QUOTE (RivrRaftr @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 7:24 PM)

I agree that colds suck...I'm just not 100% convinced that he actually had one..to me it looked like he coulda had the flu..but he coulda also just been good ol Theodore that I had until recently grown to hate for the last 2 years..call me crazy but I keep expecting him to slip back into the goalie hes been for the last 2 years. I learned a long time ago not to trust a word any hockey team says about the health of their players.
Arnott was gone from game 5 last series for the flu but even I knew he got injured during the celebration of his goal in game 4, so yes, teams are not always truthful.
I don't care if he was sick or not, it's Theo, he has a long history of not being a consistent goalie and you would have to have lived in a cave for many years not to know that about him. I am not worried. Colorado is probably much better than I give them credit for but I just don't see this team beating us. This means we probably lose the next 4 games but oh well, just my single individual opinion.
SBriand
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 5:15 PM)

Reports are Theodore missed today's morning skate, but is already back on the ice practicing for the later practice's. He will most likely play Saturday and will also most likely be playing like he was against Minnesota. Detroit will not get off to the same start they did scoring 4 goals so fast. I would also place money saying Detroit won't even score 4 goals in all of Game 2.
oops
gtycoon
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Does Colorado have a comeback in them like Pitts did the other day?
It'll be tough in Detroit Rock City.
If it gets too far out of hand the third could get nasty...
...that's what I said about the NYR/Pitts game and then Pitts came back.
LJB723
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 10:15 PM)

I would also place money saying Detroit won't even score 4 goals in all of Game 2.
Way to be wrong.
Come in number 60 your time is up!
SBriand
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (gtycoon @ Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 4:38 PM)

Does Colorado have a comeback in them like Pitts did the other day?
It'll be tough in Detroit Rock City.
If it gets too far out of hand the third could get nasty...
...that's what I said about the NYR/Pitts game and then Pitts came back.
They clearly have given up and lost all composure. Joe needs to get their heads back on straight. But they look beat to me. I guess McClowns antics with the octopus was ineffective.
TwstdWrstr
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Ugh this is about as ugly as it gets. The Avs have no answer for Franzen, Zetterberg or Datsyuk. Forsberg is obviously not going to be a factor and frankly they just looked outclassed today. Don't know what Theodore can do when his team is outshot 40-20, with most of the 20 after the game was long over.
Hopefully the home ice in game 3 and 4 can provide some inspiration. They're gonna need it.
CJHunt
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 10:34 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 2:15 PM)

I would also place money saying Detroit won't even score 4 goals in all of Game 2.
I'll predict the Avs win Game 2 by a score of 2-1.....3-1 if they add an empty netter.
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 2:15 PM)

Does it hurt to be that stupid???
Couldn't resist.
GWCGWC
Saturday, April 26th, 2008, 11:17 PM
Goddammit! I just checked the website to see what time the Avs play Sunday.
XXEddie
Sunday, April 27th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Colorado Avalanche-1
Detroit Red Wings-5
Wings lead series 2-0
Yeah this was just pathetic. And if Quenneville starts Theo over Budaj Tuesday i will shoot him. Detroit had a 2-0 lead over Nashville and they won games 3 & 4 to tie it so it isnt that far out there. It will be tough though.
gtycoon
Sunday, April 27th, 2008, 5:56 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Sunday, April 27th, 2008, 3:31 PM)

Colorado Avalanche-1
Detroit Red Wings-5
Wings lead series 2-0
Yeah this was just pathetic. And if Quenneville starts Theo over Budaj Tuesday i will shoot him. Detroit had a 2-0 lead over Nashville and they won games 3 & 4 to tie it so it isnt that far out there. It will be tough though.
I don't see him starting Budaj and he'll give JT another chance to make up for the last game.
It's possible they'll come back and I'd rather see Colorado win this series, but I see Detroit going to the Cup again this year based on who's left in the West.
Whiter Sr
Monday, April 28th, 2008, 5:04 AM
QUOTE (gtycoon @ Sunday, April 27th, 2008, 5:56 PM)

I don't see him starting Budaj and he'll give JT another chance to make up for the last game.
It's possible they'll come back and I'd rather see Colorado win this series, but I see Detroit going to the Cup again this year based on who's left in the West.
I have to disagree. He has to start Budaj in Game 3. Theodore was giving 2 chances and both times Budaj came in he looked better than Jose. He may do otherwise but if I were choosing I would play Budaj for sure.
SBriand
Monday, April 28th, 2008, 7:47 AM
I would prefer JT in net for obvious reasons but I think Joe would be an idiot not to give Budaj the nod. The team is playing better behind him and he hasn't been giving up ridiculous goals. But hey, if JT is the man, I am 110% okay with that.
Whiter Sr
Monday, April 28th, 2008, 8:48 AM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 1:15 PM)

Does it hurt to be that stupid???No team, especially Detroit, should go from 4-1 up early in the second, to only up by a single goal going into the 3rd. Not to mention this was in Detroit. The Avs can compete with, and even outplay, Detroit at Joe Louis Arena.
Reports are Theodore missed today's morning skate, but is already back on the ice practicing for the later practice's. He will most likely play Saturday and will also most likely be playing like he was against Minnesota. Detroit will not get off to the same start they did scoring 4 goals so fast. I would also place money saying Detroit won't even score 4 goals in all of Game 2.
Forsberg is questionable for Game 2, Wolski is most likely out for the series. This is incredibly bad for the Avs, right? Wrong. Even without them, again, I'm not worried. We came back without them and came VERY close to tying the game in the 3rd, including Hejduk banking one off the post. I'm not gonna take anything away from Ozgood, he did play outstanding.
I'll predict the Avs win Game 2 by a score of 2-1.....3-1 if they add an empty netter.
So does it hurt to be that stupid?
Whiter Sr
Monday, April 28th, 2008, 9:46 AM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Friday, April 25th, 2008, 1:15 PM)

Does it hurt to be that stupid???
No team, especially Detroit, should go from 4-1 up early in the second, to only up by a single goal going into the 3rd. Not to mention this was in Detroit. The Avs can compete with, and even outplay, Detroit at Joe Louis Arena.
If you don't think a team has ever lets up when they get up a few goals you have obviously never played the game before.
I'm not saying it happens all the time but it happens. Guys cheat to score scores, pinch when they shouldn't, don't skate back as hard as they normally would etc... just because they know they have that cushion.
XXEddie
Monday, April 28th, 2008, 7:50 PM
QUOTE (Whiter Sr @ Monday, April 28th, 2008, 9:46 AM)

If you don't think a team has ever lets up when they get up a few goals you have obviously never played the game before.
I'm not saying it happens all the time but it happens. Guys cheat to score scores, pinch when they shouldn't, don't skate back as hard as they normally would etc... just because they know they have that cushion.
did I say that? No.
I said that there is a difference between going up 4-1 and STAYING up 4-1, and going up 4-1 and having it be 4-3 by the end of the 2nd.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:13 AM
I am extremely overjoyed that Jose will be playing tonight but I really don't understand it. Joe is a veteran coach and I watch from my couch so I understand he should know better than me but this seems like a bad decision. Budaj played well and gave them a very good chance to win in game one. The team looks to play much better in front of him and you are down 2-0. I think there is less risk of going down 3-0 with Budaj in net than JT but again, who the f am I?
XXEddie
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:13 AM)

I am extremely overjoyed that Jose will be playing tonight but I really don't understand it. Joe is a veteran coach and I watch from my couch so I understand he should know better than me but this seems like a bad decision. Budaj played well and gave them a very good chance to win in game one. The team looks to play much better in front of him and you are down 2-0. I think there is less risk of going down 3-0 with Budaj in net than JT but again, who the f am I?
I just read an article on the Avs website about game 3 and it did infact say Theo was starting and it claimed that he is 'finally' cleared of the flu bug. I'm just not sure though...Budaj played soooo well in place of him I think he deserves a chance here. I love Budaj and to see him help this team the last few years and get zero playoff starts really upsets me. Hopefully Theo can up his game, hopefully the whole team can, cause if we don't, we'll be done 3-0.
serge
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:54 AM
PLEASE COLORADO WAKE UP
thanks
gtycoon
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 2:56 PM
Home crowd will give an avalanche of support and hopefully that will give them a boost to start the game off with some intensity. Even with the way Detroit played at home, I'm going to take Colorado 4-2 with an empty net goal tonight.
SBriand
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:11 PM
QUOTE (gtycoon @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 6:56 PM)

Home crowd will give an avalanche of support and hopefully that will give them a boost to start the game off with some intensity. Even with the way Detroit played at home, I'm going to take Colorado 4-2 with an empty net goal tonight.
oops
strategy
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:12 PM
datsyuk is absurd
is it really so hard to believe that jose might have really been sick? he's the only reason they're in the playoffs, dude.
strategy
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:15 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:11 PM)

oops
I'd say eddie is fair game for the oopses, but nobody else. He's the only flagrantly disrespectful person in the hockey forum, imo.
also, OOPS
SBriand
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:15 PM
QUOTE (strategy @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 11:12 PM)

datsyuk is absurd
is it really so hard to believe that jose might have really been sick? he's the only reason they're in the playoffs, dude.
I am sure he is sick, he has also been ridiculously inconsistent his entire career.
3-2. We might get a game out of this.
strategy
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:21 PM
1-800-oopsforsberg
SBriand
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:22 PM
what a pass
digitalmonkey
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:23 PM
LOL @ Datsyuk and Zetterberg...it's really not fair sometimes.
strategy
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:26 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 10:22 PM)

what a pass
I was kind of impressed with the shot, too. he wasn't shooting at THAT much net with the angle... and he got it off in less than a second
rocketpoker828
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 7:34 PM
This game's gonna get ugly if Colorado keeps giving Detroit power plays.
GWCGWC
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 8:02 PM
I didn't think Colorado came out fast and sharp like I expected in the first period. Even though they got first goal, they seemed sluggish.
Theodore is expected to have Roy like consistency in his 10+ incredible saves. It's just not realistic.
Come on HUGE 3rd period!
GWCGWC
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 8:35 PM
Sluggish may not have been the right word, but they certainly weren't sharp coming out in the first.
Goddammit, they played that third period about as good as they could without getting more than one goal.
What's up with the refs not calling tripping on the dude that took Forsberg out? Are the refs less likely to call this when the team who got fouled is on a power play?
strategy
Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 8:38 PM
it was somewhat sad to see them pull jose and not even make it out of their side of center ice...
SBriand
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 9:43 AM
I would not fault JT on this one. He let in some soft goals in 1 and 2 but he had no chance last night. I am very disappointed on how unexciting this series is. Still has the chance to get interesting but a lot has to change on the Avs side to make that happen. Smyth needs to get back and I have to say I am very happy Forsie didn't want to play for Detroit. He looks washed up. Someone on the pst game show called him "The best in the world". I don't agree. Not now anyway. Not last year either.
strategy
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 12:43 PM)

I am very happy Forsie didn't want to play for Detroit. He looks washed up. Someone on the pst game show called him "The best in the world". I don't agree. Not now anyway. Not last year either.
he kinda needs to stay retired. I think he was the best in the world at some point in time, but yeah it wasn't in the last four or five years.
gtycoon
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 1:58 PM
QUOTE (gtycoon @ Tuesday, April 29th, 2008, 5:56 PM)

Home crowd will give an avalanche of support and hopefully that will give them a boost to start the game off with some intensity. Even with the way Detroit played at home, I'm going to take Detroit 4-3 tonight.
See just like I said it would turn out
What's with all the potential sweeps? PIT, DAL, DET
gtycoon
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 2:06 PM
QUOTE (SBriand @ Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 12:43 PM)

I am very disappointed on how unexciting this series is.
Yeah, there are a couple other series that are somewhat unexciting and look like the brooms are coming out for the sweeps. I don't like when there's a sweep in a series, especially the cup final so hopefully that doesn't happen. Now, if any of these teams that are down 3-0 can come back and win their series, that would bring up the excitement level just a tad
XXEddie
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 4:44 PM
Detroit Red Wings-4
Colorado Avalanche-3
Wings lead series 3-0
Everything i was gonna say has been said. Theo can't be blamed. The refs sorta sucked. I'm surprised thisn is such a one-sided series. I was embarassed when we could get past center with the extra man. Even though we score first, you could kinda feel it was lucky.
At least our PP didnt suck 2/3 with our 1st goal coming during a delayed call.
rocketpoker828
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 4:59 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 8:44 PM)

The refs sorta sucked.
They sucked for both sides though. That hit on Lebda just before the first Avs goal was definitely at least a 2:00 boarding call if not more.
XXEddie
Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 5:44 PM
QUOTE (rocketpoker828 @ Wednesday, April 30th, 2008, 4:59 PM)

They sucked for both sides though. That hit on Lebda just before the first Avs goal was definitely at least a 2:00 boarding call if not more.
Oh def. Also with 4 minutes left in the 3rd, the Avs shoulda got called for too many men. I wasnt even paying attention. But the sea of Burgundy jerseys was too hard to miss, I counted 7.
XXEddie
Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 3:13 PM
Smyth out
Forsberg out
Stastny out
Wolski out
5-1 Detroit, gg avs
gtycoon
Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 3:33 PM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Thursday, May 1st, 2008, 6:13 PM)

Smyth out
Forsberg out
Stastny out
Wolski out
5-1 Detroit, gg avs
I don't think Forsberg matters all that much, but Smyth and Stastny out hurt this team. Time to re-group for next year. If these two players can remain healthy for a full year, this team will be in the top of the standings.
XXEddie
Sunday, May 4th, 2008, 4:52 PM
Detroit Red Wings-8
Colorado Avalanche-2
Wings win series 4-0
Again, i'm not necessarily detoirt won. Im just surprised they dominated so much. Props to them though, they were by FAR the better team and deserved to move on. I'm happy we ended the season at home though, most the fans obviously left cause it was 7-1 and the end of the second but after the hand shake the avs stayed for a minute and raised their stickes to the fans which was good to see.
I think our main problem was that we didn't play our game. Detroit focuses a lot of their play on getting, and keeping, the puck. It seemed like a lot of the time the avs were just trying to play keep away, which meant when we turned it over, it was often in our own zone.
GG Avs, i will be back next season for sure. Hopefully Sakic, Foote and Forsberg will return next season for one last go at it. Something tells me Sakic will be the type of player that is more likely to say which year will be his last.
Once again Avs, vgg.
XXEddie
Friday, May 9th, 2008, 2:19 PM
Peace, Quenneville
In honor of Mr. Kelly;
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
digitalmonkey
Friday, May 9th, 2008, 3:46 PM
I guess they expected Quennville to get more out of the minor league team he had to dress because of injuries.
I think he just jumped to the top of potential Toronto coaches.
sinc
Saturday, May 10th, 2008, 11:42 AM
I never really thought quenville's record was very stellar. I think the avs won't have too much trouble finding a good coach, if I were a coach I'd kill to inherit a team with that much young talent.
strategy's_touch
Saturday, May 10th, 2008, 12:01 PM
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Friday, May 9th, 2008, 6:46 PM)

I guess they expected Quennville to get more out of the minor league team he had to dress because of injuries.
I think he just jumped to the top of potential Toronto coaches.
yeah, I made the same point to my friend, a wings fan. Really dumb firing imo
coesillian
Monday, May 12th, 2008, 2:59 PM
There's talk here in Quebec that Patrick Roy is waiting for a call from Giguerre to talk about a coaching possibility. Roy's kid is going to play for him next year int he Q and Roy keeps saying how much he loves to coach these young kids but maybe colorado will a good place for him to start a coaching career in the NHL.
I think he'll want to stay in Quebec another year but I won't be surprized if he ever makes the jump to the NHL, not sure how I would feel about him as a coach for Montreal... that would be one hell of a ride though.
The radio made an argument that he would a good leader behind Ottawa's bench, he would turn Spezza and Heatly into a Malkin/Crosby or Datsyuk/Zetterberg type duo.
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