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BudBundy
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $57.20
UTG+1: $118.80
CO: $51.30
Button: $39.70
Hero: $78.95
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_club.gif 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif ($4, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.15, Hero raises to $10, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 6 icon_suit_spade.gif ($24, 2 players)
Hero bets $14.5, UTG+1 raises to $40, Hero

Fold pf?

Flat call flop?

How should i play this?
Temporary Nuts
Check-raising TP/TK is a no no
BudBundy
In PLO , i am almost always going for a check raise in preflop raised pots.

I should quit lose habit in Hold'em.

So this is a lead fold? Lead call?
Zach6668
I check/call the flop. Reevaluate on the turn, to be honest.

What you don't really want here, is a big pot.
No_Neck
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Monday, September 24th, 2007, 2:07 PM) *
I check/call the flop. Reevaluate on the turn, to be honest.

What you don't really want here, is a big pot.



you are wise beyond your nationality smile.gif
Acid_Knight
This is ok as long as you're folding on the turn. Calling preflop is fine, but reraising is good too. The only reason NOT to check/raise this flop is that when you think about his range and what he can call you with, you're never happy.

If he has hands like 77+, AK, AQ, KQ, QJ etc, then you're either drawing really slim (against sets and AA, KK, QJ) or he's drawing really slim (with lower pairs, AK, KQ) and that's what we call way ahead/way behind (WA/WB). It's a reason to keep the pot small becuase either one of you drawing out on the other is unlikely and raising will result in them folding hands that you were crushing and reraising hands that crush you.

So, as played, fold the turn 100% of the time. Also, with no read, I often am not c/r here.
Scott3705
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, September 24th, 2007, 10:39 AM) *
This is ok as long as you're folding on the turn. Calling preflop is fine, but reraising is good too. The only reason NOT to check/raise this flop is that when you think about his range and what he can call you with, you're never happy.

If he has hands like 77+, AK, AQ, KQ, QJ etc, then you're either drawing really slim (against sets and AA, KK, QJ) or he's drawing really slim (with lower pairs, AK, KQ) and that's what we call way ahead/way behind (WA/WB). It's a reason to keep the pot small becuase either one of you drawing out on the other is unlikely and raising will result in them folding hands that you were crushing and reraising hands that crush you.

So, as played, fold the turn 100% of the time. Also, with no read, I often am not c/r here.

True.

I'd also add that c/r tptk is more of a tournament concept with shorter stacks where the number of pots won almost equates to how many chips your accumulating.that relationship doesn't hold in cash games.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Monday, September 24th, 2007, 9:46 AM) *
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $57.20
UTG+1: $118.80
CO: $51.30
Button: $39.70
Hero: $78.95
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q icon_suit_heart.gif J icon_suit_club.gif 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif ($4, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.15, Hero raises to $10, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 6 icon_suit_spade.gif ($24, 2 players)
Hero bets $14.5, UTG+1 raises to $40, Hero

Fold pf?

Flat call flop?

How should i play this?

Time to foldoliofoldo.
D5Greene
in my opinion, this is a situation where you want to control the pot size. I would either re-raise to take over control of the hand pre flop, hoping that QQ or better will re-raise you so you can get away from the hand. Or i would smooth call the flop keeping the pot size small so if the player does make a continuation bet, you can re-raise him to show strength to get information or again just smooth call depending on what type of player the UTG is.

This sort of hand is hard to get away from, but dont rule out him raising with QJ just because it was suited or something and catching two pair on the flop. You just dont know with some of these players...the fact that you showed strength by check-raising and him not being afraid and trying to go all in after you showed strength on the flop and the turn tells me he has a big hand and is trying to get paid off. either he hit his set, he also has AQ, or he his two pair is what I feel.
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