$5-150 holdem, $350 max buy in.

I'm in the big blind with Playing $400

UTG+1 calls, MP player calls, CO raises to 20, Button calls, SB folds, I call.

Flop:

I lead out $60, UTG+1 folds, MP calls (stack 600 - just sat down...no real read), rest fold. I know there are many ways to play this flop but I chose this because I did not want the table to check around if I checked (I'd seen it a lot on junk flops even with a raise). I also expected a call from the original raiser with ANY 2 live cards based on my read on him.

Turn:

How do I play from here?

I think you bet the turn something like $120 to $150. There is no reason to believe that your hand is no good yet. He is on a flush draw more often than a straight chase. I think you might fold to a push.

Can we get your read on the villain? Would his preflop range contain alot of small cards?

As played Id still have to think I was good almost always here and would bet.

If you check that turn and he fires big, you really have no idea where you stand. He could have played some random hand like A6 or maybe 66, or he could have air, or he could be semi bluffing with a big draw.

Leading out here will give you a better idea of where you stand at this point. I'd bet 120-150 here and prob have to call a shove, being that we only have another 150 or so behind.

I bet $125 or so. We need to give the flush draw a bad price. I don't know what I do if I get pushed into. I guess I'd have to call with a random villain.


Guess it would be cool if we spiked the 7c and hit the bad beat.

i agree w/ everyone else in firing away 120-150 here... i seriously doubt that five helped him... the only way it did is if he gambled 66 on the flop... why else would he have a 6 in his hand *(obv unless he flopped it, in which case the 5 still didn't help him)*? A 6 suited? doubtful, most people dump that trash when the pot gets raised preflop... & then dump on the flop as that's not really the board you're looking for when you call w/ A 6 sOooted lolz..


i think that turn card really changed nothing enough times to justify another bet... i probably puke on the table if he shoves... in which case i'm probably calling anyways & hoping to see a 4 5 7 or 8 on the river... it sucks when you flop a set & loose, hope that's not what happened...

I debate the 60 bet lead on the flop, that isn't enough to stop implied odds maybe you should have took the pot right there; I think the less you know about who you are up against the more you have to bet. Surely don't be okay with losing any money off him unless you learn alot in exchange. You must be setting a trap because a 60 lead after those pre bets makes you looking for a raise you can reraise, play the turn with a check then big raise on his bet gambling that he doesn't have the straight, this will keep he from drawing to the flush if that is his hand but he may have the higher set so not to much to bust your self, if he checks behind he doesn't have enough to play you for and hasn't been able to hide anything yet; of course you give up a draw but that was in the to small lead.

Thanks everyone...all good advice. I felt pretty confident that the turn did not help him but I still ended up making a big mistake by only betting $75, which I realized as a mistake the moment I bet it (acted too quickly, just didn't think it through enough).

@ Gene zzz: I'm on the fence about the $60 flop bet....I could've bet $100 and most likely taken it right there but the board wasn't that scary for my hand so I wanted some action.

He just called the turn.

Now.... the river came

What to do now? I mean it's the perfect card for him to bluff at if I check but at the same time to lead out with any strength would mean a $150 bet when I'm totally unsure of where I stand.

I check and then probably call.... I am a station though. Unless you are sure he has the flush...

the river is a c/f in the above scenario. If he didn't catch up on the flush, then he was calling before cause he thought he had you beat. If you check to him, he's taking a cheapshowdown with the hands you're ahead of.

A lot of people are going to bitch, but I fire $100 as a blocker/feeler/value bet. I don't want the villain getting a chance to bluff at me. Then I can fold to a push.

I take a similar line. It gets some value out of the two pair hands we're ahead of and we can confidently fold if he raises us.

I like when villains bluff at me.

But I like money.

Max bet is $150 in this game. Do you think bet/folding for $100 is better than c/c'ing up to $150?

I'm not sold on either, but I'm up for discussion. We check so he can bluff/value bet worse hands. If we bet, it's because we think we have the best hand AND he will call. Betting here, and having him fold isn't exactly an ideal situation, unless he miraculously folded a better set. Think about the reason why we would check or bet.

River is a c/f once that card falls. It's possible that he was ahead of you on the turn, but it's very likely that he's ahead on the river now. Most players aren't going to take a good hand (top pair, 2 pair) and turn it into a bluff here. If he bets, he has you beat a majority of the time. Leading then folding to a raise in a spread limit game like this is bad.