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gfdsa146
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($10.56)
Button ($11.50)
SB ($5)
BB ($2.40)
UTG ($10.03)
MP ($9.11)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q.
UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05, UTG calls $0.05.

Flop: ($0.42) A, 3, 6 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($0.62) J (2 players)
MP bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.5, MP folds.

Final Pot: $0.72

MP was a donk. Habitual hero caller (example: gets raised big on the river by some guy who is sick of his LAGy style and the donk calls /w J-3 on a board of 10-10-Q-7-7). Makes random min bets, no possible way of telling when he's on a min-bet bluff or min-value-bet.

I played a double-up pot against him earlier, here's the HH for that just to show you how donkish he was -

PokerStars Game #12139407499: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2007/09/18 - 23:00:01 (ET)
Table 'Nekkar II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: gfdsa146 ($1.14 in chips)
Seat 2: ronstorm ($12.66 in chips)
Seat 5: damey503 ($9.42 in chips)
Seat 6: gracey47 ($8.46 in chips)
gfdsa146: posts small blind $0.02
ronstorm: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gfdsa146 [6s 5s]
damey503: folds
gracey47: raises $0.05 to $0.10
gfdsa146: calls $0.08
ronstorm: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 6d]
gfdsa146: checks
ronstorm: checks
gracey47: bets $0.15
gfdsa146: raises $0.30 to $0.45
ronstorm: folds
gracey47: calls $0.30
*** TURN *** [6c 7c 6d] [5d]
gfdsa146: checks
LaydeeJane joins the table at seat #3
gracey47: checks
*** RIVER *** [6c 7c 6d 5d] [4d]
gfdsa146: bets $0.59 and is all-in
gracey47: calls $0.59
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gfdsa146: shows [6s 5s] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
gracey47: mucks hand
gfdsa146 collected $2.28 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.38 | Rake $0.10
Board [6c 7c 6d 5d 4d]
Seat 1: gfdsa146 (small blind) showed [6s 5s] and won ($2.28) with a full house, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 2: ronstorm (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: damey503 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gracey47 (button) mucked [3c Ac]


Was i supposed to raise him? Did i raise too much?

Maybe i shoulda checked and let another one pop off - its not like i could get outdrawn unless he's got 2pair or a set. If a 4th heart peels off on the river, maybe it would give him a reason to call a big bet because of some random heart he has in his hand?
linkwood
QUOTE (gfdsa146 @ Tuesday, September 18th, 2007, 8:28 PM) *
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($10.56)
Button ($11.50)
SB ($5)
BB ($2.40)
UTG ($10.03)
MP ($9.11)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q.
UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05, UTG calls $0.05.

Flop: ($0.42) A, 3, 6 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($0.62) J (2 players)
MP bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.5, MP folds.

Final Pot: $0.72

MP was a donk. Habitual hero caller (example: gets raised big on the river by some guy who is sick of his LAGy style and the donk calls /w J-3 on a board of 10-10-Q-7-7). Makes random min bets, no possible way of telling when he's on a min-bet bluff or min-value-bet.

I played a double-up pot against him earlier, here's the HH for that just to show you how donkish he was -

PokerStars Game #12139407499: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2007/09/18 - 23:00:01 (ET)
Table 'Nekkar II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: gfdsa146 ($1.14 in chips)
Seat 2: ronstorm ($12.66 in chips)
Seat 5: damey503 ($9.42 in chips)
Seat 6: gracey47 ($8.46 in chips)
gfdsa146: posts small blind $0.02
ronstorm: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gfdsa146 [6s 5s]
damey503: folds
gracey47: raises $0.05 to $0.10
gfdsa146: calls $0.08
ronstorm: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 6d]
gfdsa146: checks
ronstorm: checks
gracey47: bets $0.15
gfdsa146: raises $0.30 to $0.45
ronstorm: folds
gracey47: calls $0.30
*** TURN *** [6c 7c 6d] [5d]
gfdsa146: checks
LaydeeJane joins the table at seat #3
gracey47: checks
*** RIVER *** [6c 7c 6d 5d] [4d]
gfdsa146: bets $0.59 and is all-in
gracey47: calls $0.59
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gfdsa146: shows [6s 5s] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
gracey47: mucks hand
gfdsa146 collected $2.28 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.38 | Rake $0.10
Board [6c 7c 6d 5d 4d]
Seat 1: gfdsa146 (small blind) showed [6s 5s] and won ($2.28) with a full house, Sixes full of Fives
Seat 2: ronstorm (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: damey503 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: gracey47 (button) mucked [3c Ac]
Was i supposed to raise him? Did i raise too much?

Maybe i shoulda checked and let another one pop off - its not like i could get outdrawn unless he's got 2pair or a set. If a 4th heart peels off on the river, maybe it would give him a reason to call a big bet because of some random heart he has in his hand?


Pretty standard. If you're against a calling station and you have the nuts then absolutely cannot slowplay unless you are 100% sure they will not call you now, but may call you later. You have no reason to believe that at this point, so you have to call the flop and then raise the turn, just like you did. It just sucks that this was one of the times he didn't have anything. It happens.
dms26
I raise the flop to get some value out of this hand when you do hit. Since you are in position then you can decide on the turn what you want to do if the flush doesn't come. It also disguises your hand a bit.
No_Neck
you played it perfect against an idiot calling station, he probably had 84o with no hearts. Sometimes they have to have hands to win a big pot.
Temporary Nuts
He did bet half as much on the turn as he did the flop... that sounds like a scared bet to me... but he probably needs a hand in order for you to get anything so I guess your raise is good.
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