I couldn't make the converter in the stickied thread work, but I've cleaned up the HH as best as I could. I'm a super-beginner at this game, only played a handful of $1 SNGs, never cash game TD until yesterday. Not sure if these are standard, I'm missing bets, or are just completely donkified on my part. If people are willing to take a look at this and let me know their thoughts I'd definitely appreciate it.
Also, I include stack sizes in the first hand but not in the rest (unless they change substantially).
First hand at the table - how does this look?
PokerStars Game #12082688075: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/09/15 - 23:10:30 (ET)
Table 'Titius' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pb ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO~! ($20 in chips)
Seat 3: bd ($31.60 in chips)
Seat 4: r4 ($25.85 in chips)
Seat 5: sbb ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 6: yd ($19 in chips)
pb: posts small blind $0.25
HERO~!: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
bd: folds
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: stands pat on [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
r4: discards 2 cards
sbb: discards 2 cards
HERO~! bets $0.50
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Anybody raise this hand in EP? I have two deuces, and a two card eight draw. I guess I assume that people aren't folding enough at this limit to make any sort of play here?
Dealt to HERO~! [Th 6d 8h 2c 2s]
bd has returned
HERO~!: folds
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This is a fold preflop, right?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [4s 3h 7h 4d Js]
r4: folds
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: calls $0.25
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
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This too?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [7c 8c 2d 7d Ac]
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: folds
HERO~!: calls $0.75
bd: folds
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What about this one? I'm sort of lost as to what YD has, but I sort of figure if I can hit an 8 or better I'm good here.
Dealt to HERO~! [7h Qc Kh 2s 6h]
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: calls $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Qc Kh]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h] [3s 7s]
yd: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7s]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [3h]
yd: bets $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
yd: stands pat
pb: discards 1 card
HERO~!: discards 1 card [3h]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [9c]
yd: checks
pb: checks
HERO~!: checks
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A one card 8 draw. I re-raise to isolate, but I'm not feeling confident after he caps it pre-draw, but when he check calls the next two draws and discards two each time I feel like I'm ok
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [8c Jh 3d 6d 7d]
yd: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Jh]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [6c]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [6c]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [Ks]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $1
pb: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Ks]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [5c]
pb: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
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Last one
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 4c 9h]
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
bd: folds
r4: calls $1
sbb: folds
yd: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [4c 9h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [Kh Jc]
r4: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: checks
r4: checks
*** SECOND DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Kh Jc]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [7h 5h]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 5h] [7d]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: folds
Full Version: A Few Hands From A Td Newb
[quote name='SpiderGuard' post='2139189' date='Saturday, September 15th, 2007, 11:26 PM']I couldn't make the converter in the stickied thread work, but I've cleaned up the HH as best as I could. I'm a super-beginner at this game, only played a handful of $1 SNGs, never cash game TD until yesterday. Not sure if these are standard, I'm missing bets, or are just completely donkified on my part. If people are willing to take a look at this and let me know their thoughts I'd definitely appreciate it.
Also, I include stack sizes in the first hand but not in the rest (unless they change substantially).
First hand at the table - how does this look?
PokerStars Game #12082688075: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/09/15 - 23:10:30 (ET)
Table 'Titius' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pb ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO~! ($20 in chips)
Seat 3: bd ($31.60 in chips)
Seat 4: r4 ($25.85 in chips)
Seat 5: sbb ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 6: yd ($19 in chips)
pb: posts small blind $0.25
HERO~!: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
bd: folds
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: stands pat on [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
r4: discards 2 cards
sbb: discards 2 cards
HERO~! bets $0.50[/quote]
std[/quote]
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Anybody raise this hand in EP? I have two deuces, and a two card eight draw. I guess I assume that people aren't folding enough at this limit to make any sort of play here?
Dealt to HERO~! [Th 6d 8h 2c 2s]
bd has returned
HERO~!: folds
[/quote]
that's a raise, every time.[quote]
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This is a fold preflop, right?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [4s 3h 7h 4d Js]
r4: folds
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: calls $0.25
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1[/quote]
[/quote]
you're the bb? check.
[quote]
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This too?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [7c 8c 2d 7d Ac]
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: folds
HERO~!: calls $0.75
bd: folds[/quote]
i fold that OOP unless i feel like the villain is really bad. if bb comes along, your hand really sucks (though it's fine HU, just not great), and that's gonna happen more often than not at .50/1
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What about this one? I'm sort of lost as to what YD has, but I sort of figure if I can hit an 8 or better I'm good here.
Dealt to HERO~! [7h Qc Kh 2s 6h]
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: calls $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Qc Kh]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h] [3s 7s]
yd: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7s]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [3h]
yd: bets $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
yd: stands pat
pb: discards 1 card
HERO~!: discards 1 card [3h]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [9c]
yd: checks
pb: checks
HERO~!: checks
-----------------------------[/quote]
i dont 3bet here preflop. there's no reason to think you can push off the first guy, though maybe 3betting has some value in buying the button. that's table dependent, though.
after the first draw i raise with a 4 cd 7 and probably cap with a 3rd guy in the middle. your equity's good here for that.
other streets are standard.
[quote]
A one card 8 draw. I re-raise to isolate, but I'm not feeling confident after he caps it pre-draw, but when he check calls the next two draws and discards two each time I feel like I'm ok
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [8c Jh 3d 6d 7d]
yd: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Jh]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [6c]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [6c]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [Ks]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $1
pb: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Ks]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [5c]
pb: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-------------------------------[/quote]
std. sometimes you can raise the end against certain opponents..
[quote]
Last one
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 4c 9h]
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
bd: folds
r4: calls $1
sbb: folds
yd: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [4c 9h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [Kh Jc]
r4: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: checks
r4: checks
*** SECOND DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Kh Jc]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [7h 5h]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 5h] [7d]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: folds[/quote]
std. betting after the first draw is ok, too, as is bet/folding the end.
Also, I include stack sizes in the first hand but not in the rest (unless they change substantially).
First hand at the table - how does this look?
PokerStars Game #12082688075: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/09/15 - 23:10:30 (ET)
Table 'Titius' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pb ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO~! ($20 in chips)
Seat 3: bd ($31.60 in chips)
Seat 4: r4 ($25.85 in chips)
Seat 5: sbb ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 6: yd ($19 in chips)
pb: posts small blind $0.25
HERO~!: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
bd: folds
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
r4: calls $0.50
sbb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: stands pat on [2s 3h 8h 7s 4d]
r4: discards 2 cards
sbb: discards 2 cards
HERO~! bets $0.50[/quote]
std[/quote]
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Anybody raise this hand in EP? I have two deuces, and a two card eight draw. I guess I assume that people aren't folding enough at this limit to make any sort of play here?
Dealt to HERO~! [Th 6d 8h 2c 2s]
bd has returned
HERO~!: folds
[/quote]
that's a raise, every time.[quote]
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This is a fold preflop, right?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [4s 3h 7h 4d Js]
r4: folds
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: folds
pb: calls $0.25
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1[/quote]
[/quote]
you're the bb? check.
[quote]
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This too?
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [7c 8c 2d 7d Ac]
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: folds
HERO~!: calls $0.75
bd: folds[/quote]
i fold that OOP unless i feel like the villain is really bad. if bb comes along, your hand really sucks (though it's fine HU, just not great), and that's gonna happen more often than not at .50/1
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What about this one? I'm sort of lost as to what YD has, but I sort of figure if I can hit an 8 or better I'm good here.
Dealt to HERO~! [7h Qc Kh 2s 6h]
sbb: calls $0.50
yd: raises $0.50 to $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
yd: calls $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Qc Kh]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h] [3s 7s]
yd: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
yd: discards 1 card
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7s]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [3h]
yd: bets $1
pb: calls $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
yd: stands pat
pb: discards 1 card
HERO~!: discards 1 card [3h]
Dealt to HERO~! [7h 2s 6h 3s] [9c]
yd: checks
pb: checks
HERO~!: checks
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i dont 3bet here preflop. there's no reason to think you can push off the first guy, though maybe 3betting has some value in buying the button. that's table dependent, though.
after the first draw i raise with a 4 cd 7 and probably cap with a 3rd guy in the middle. your equity's good here for that.
other streets are standard.
[quote]
A one card 8 draw. I re-raise to isolate, but I'm not feeling confident after he caps it pre-draw, but when he check calls the next two draws and discards two each time I feel like I'm ok
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO~! [8c Jh 3d 6d 7d]
yd: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $1
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1.50
bd: folds
r4: folds
sbb: folds
pb: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
HERO~!: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Jh]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [6c]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $0.50
pb: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [6c]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [Ks]
pb: checks
HERO~!: bets $1
pb: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
pb: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: discards 1 card [Ks]
Dealt to HERO~! [8c 3d 6d 7d] [5c]
pb: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
-------------------------------[/quote]
std. sometimes you can raise the end against certain opponents..
[quote]
Last one
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 4c 9h]
pb: folds
HERO~!: raises $0.50 to $1
bd: folds
r4: calls $1
sbb: folds
yd: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [4c 9h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [Kh Jc]
r4: discards 2 cards
HERO~!: checks
r4: checks
*** SECOND DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 2 cards [Kh Jc]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h] [7h 5h]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
HERO~!: discards 1 card [7h]
Dealt to HERO~! [4h 7s 2h 5h] [7d]
r4: discards 1 card
HERO~!: checks
r4: bets $1
HERO~!: folds[/quote]
std. betting after the first draw is ok, too, as is bet/folding the end.
Checky, thanks for the thoughts.
Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold.
I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?
Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.
Thanks again!
Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold.
I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?
Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.
Thanks again!
QUOTE (SpiderGuard @ Tuesday, September 18th, 2007, 3:36 AM) 
Checky, thanks for the thoughts.
Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold.
I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?
Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.
Thanks again!
Can I ask for a clarification on two of the hands? The second hand (2268x) you say raise, every time, but the fourth hand (278xx) you say fold.
I see two major differences between the hands - one I can be the aggressor and have an extra 2. The other I'm not the first to enter the pot and have two blanks to go with my 8 draw. Is the first one a raise because I can open the pot?
Big thanks for your help, it's greatly appreciated. I've been winning money at the micro limit 2-7 tables, but I have no idea if it's luck or just because everyone else is worse at this game than I am. It looks like I'm at least on the right track...much work to go though.
Thanks again!
chance to make an 86 is far better than making an 87 and perhaps a rough(876)87 plus knowing there's one dead duece.
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