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BobVersion1
With working full time, going back to school is hard right now. I'm 27 and want to get my associates and then Bachelors degree in Broadcasting communication. I'm thinking of doing University of Phoenix online classes...has anyone every used them and if so, what's your experiences?
Spademan
I struggle not to laugh at my friend who attends, but a degree from there may get your foot in the door some places.
hank213
I've heard that they're building a decent rep, but they're not quite there yet. Have you looked for a B&M school that may have that program online? A lot of institutions are rolling out some online programs.
Pot Odds RAC
I have a friend who went to the B&M version of UofP. I told him he didn't need to move to Phoenix to get an on-line degree, that is sort of the point.

Bottom line is a degree's perceived "worth" how hard it is to earn. Get an "easier" degree and it is going to have a lower "value".
Spademan
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 1:17 PM) *
I have a friend who went to the B&M version of UofP. I told him he didn't need to move to Phoenix to get an on-line degree, that is sort of the point.

Bottom line is a degree's perceived "worth" how hard it is to earn. Get an "easier" degree and it is going to have a lower "value".

Btw, University of Phoenix isn't really about Phoenix, AZ.

There are B&M campuses everywhere for UofP.

Note
aadams_22
QUOTE (BobVersion1 @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 3:04 PM) *
With working full time, going back to school is hard right now. I'm 27 and want to get my associates and then Bachelors degree in Broadcasting communication. I'm thinking of doing University of Phoenix online classes...has anyone every used them and if so, what's your experiences?



There are a lot of legitimate B&M schools that are offering online degrees, and most do NOT require you to move.

Duquesne University
Regis University
University of Maryland
University of Scranton
Drexel University
Northeastern University
Gonzaga University
George Washington University

These are just a few...there are many more that I don't feel like listing here.
ricker
QUOTE (BobVersion1 @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 1:04 PM) *
With working full time, going back to school is hard right now. I'm 27 and want to get my associates and then Bachelors degree in Broadcasting communication. I'm thinking of doing University of Phoenix online classes...has anyone every used them and if so, what's your experiences?


What do you want to do with a broadcast communications degree? What are your ultimate goals?
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 5:59 PM) *
There are a lot of legitimate B&M schools that are offering online degrees, and most do NOT require you to move.

Gonzaga University
George Washington University

These are just a few...there are many more that I don't feel like listing here.

George Washington and Gonzaga both have online schools? you know anything more about getting a degree online? like difficulty, time consumption, the actual amount you learn, etc? I've recently started to consider getting a higher/different degree and would also like some details.
socalpoker_j
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 3:29 PM) *
George Washington and Gonzaga both have online schools? you know anything more about getting a degree online? like difficulty, time consumption, the actual amount you learn, etc? I've recently started to consider getting a higher/different degree and would also like some details.


Northwestern also has a very strong program as well.
aadams_22
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 5:29 PM) *
George Washington and Gonzaga both have online schools? you know anything more about getting a degree online? like difficulty, time consumption, the actual amount you learn, etc? I've recently started to consider getting a higher/different degree and would also like some details.


I have a friend who did hers through the University of Scranton, and from what I have seen from her it is definitely doable. However it is a time consuming process and a bit harder than traditional class because it is more on the student to pickup the material since you don't always have a live professor there. After seeing her do this I am considering getting an MBA through Regis University myself. As for info on the schools you would probably be best served to check out the school's website and see what they have to offer. I know if there is a residency requirement it will be stated on the site.
SBriand
i have decided this semester to take my Business Law class online. It looks pretty crazy to be honest. Talking to some other students in the class they say that it's seems harder than going to a regular class. It's supposedly easy to let things go an fall behind from time to time. Should be interesting.
scram
Here's the answer to that question.

1) A degree from University of Phoenix will only open the lowest level opportunities requiring college (hourly retail manager, etc). Everywhere else, the HR person will just LOL and put your resume straight into the shredder

2) A University of Phoenix degree is a cop-out in a lot of ways and might actually weigh against you in situations where people are assessing your abilities. Some people will view it as a minimal effort to better yourself, others (like myself) would view it as an attempt to obtain a college degree without actually having to put in any real effort or sacrifice.

3) Since we mistakenly decided that all people are "equal" and entitled to college education even if they are morons who really shouldn't be there, college ceased being an institution that weeded out inferior minds and started being a vocational system that really doesn't address how bright someone is. As such, employers know that the mere presence of a college degree doesn't mean much for positions of any importance. Obtaining the lowest, cheapest, least exclusive back-of-a-matchbook degree really isn't going to open any opportunities that wouldn't already be available to someone without a degree but with a modicum of work experience.

4) Here's the founder, Herr SPERLING



You think a SPERLING really has your best interests in mind?

University of Phoenix is educational snakeoil being peddled by those who can most often be found selling such things.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 7:20 PM) *
I have a friend who did hers through the University of Scranton, and from what I have seen from her it is definitely doable. However it is a time consuming process and a bit harder than traditional class because it is more on the student to pickup the material since you don't always have a live professor there. After seeing her do this I am considering getting an MBA through Regis University myself. As for info on the schools you would probably be best served to check out the school's website and see what they have to offer. I know if there is a residency requirement it will be stated on the site.

well I wasn't really looking for specific info on the schools really, basically what you just said here. thanks. I also didn't think about the residency thing either.


also, SBriand brought up a good point about being able to stick to it. that would be much harder when you don't have someone to answer to in person every other day. it would take a lot of discipline.


and as far as scram's comments, I'm wondering if the well known school's online programs are specifically mentioned so on the degree? if not, then they would be just as credible as their regular degrees. if they do, then I'm sure they hold a lot more "worth" than just plain university of phoenix.


and scram really hates the jews, don't he?
aadams_22
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 6:40 PM) *
I'm wondering if the well known school's online programs are specifically mentioned so on the degree? if not, then they would be just as credible as their regular degrees.


When I talked with a representative from Duquesne University I asked that exact question, and I was assured that nowhere on the diploma or the transcripts will it be listed as an online degree. You will be fine.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 7:42 PM) *
When I talked with a representative from Duquesne University I asked that exact question, and I was assured that nowhere on the diploma or the transcripts will it be listed as an online degree. You will be fine.

well shit, if thats true for all of them, then this sounds like a really good way to get additional education, assuming you have the drive to actually do it and not just buy the books and wing the tests (which is probably what I'd do). really all a diploma is, is a name. get the employer to recognize the name and thats your in.
socalpoker_j
QUOTE (scram @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 4:32 PM) *
Here's the answer to that question.

1) A degree from University of Phoenix will only open the lowest level opportunities requiring college (hourly retail manager, etc). Everywhere else, the HR person will just LOL and put your resume straight into the shredder

2) A University of Phoenix degree is a cop-out in a lot of ways and might actually weigh against you in situations where people are assessing your abilities. Some people will view it as a minimal effort to better yourself, others (like myself) would view it as an attempt to obtain a college degree without actually having to put in any real effort or sacrifice.

3) Since we mistakenly decided that all people are "equal" and entitled to college education even if they are morons who really shouldn't be there, college ceased being an institution that weeded out inferior minds and started being a vocational system that really doesn't address how bright someone is. As such, employers know that the mere presence of a college degree doesn't mean much for positions of any importance. Obtaining the lowest, cheapest, least exclusive back-of-a-matchbook degree really isn't going to open any opportunities that wouldn't already be available to someone without a degree but with a modicum of work experience.

4) Here's the founder, Herr SPERLING



You think a SPERLING really has your best interests in mind?

University of Phoenix is educational snakeoil being peddled by those who can most often be found selling such things.


Says the University of Phoenix graduate/disgruntled alumni that works at said crappy job.
scram
QUOTE (socalpoker_j @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 6:29 PM) *
Says the University of Phoenix graduate/disgruntled alumni that works at said crappy job.


Hey!
I worked VERY hard on that degree (in my spare time) angry.gif
BobVersion1
Thanks for all the replies, it really helps!

QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 5:17 PM) *
I have a friend who went to the B&M version of UofP. I told him he didn't need to move to Phoenix to get an on-line degree, that is sort of the point.

Bottom line is a degree's perceived "worth" how hard it is to earn. Get an "easier" degree and it is going to have a lower "value".


That's what I'm worried about. I've heard people say they have gone there and the classes are to easy and the teachers grade to easily... I don't want to go, get easy As and have it be worth nada..

QUOTE (ricker @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 6:21 PM) *
What do you want to do with a broadcast communications degree? What are your ultimate goals?


Right now I have a variety of things I want to do : On Air Talent, Video Editing, Sound Editing, DJing, Script Writing, theres multiple things I would like to do...


QUOTE (scram @ Wednesday, September 5th, 2007, 7:32 PM) *
Here's the answer to that question.

1) A degree from University of Phoenix will only open the lowest level opportunities requiring college (hourly retail manager, etc). Everywhere else, the HR person will just LOL and put your resume straight into the shredder

2) A University of Phoenix degree is a cop-out in a lot of ways and might actually weigh against you in situations where people are assessing your abilities. Some people will view it as a minimal effort to better yourself, others (like myself) would view it as an attempt to obtain a college degree without actually having to put in any real effort or sacrifice.


1 and 2. I've heard the same things... I think I may look elsewhere...
yeffy
This girl i used to hook up with was a professor for UoP. I used to make fun of her for it but she really took it seriously and spent a lot of time with her students. She taught creative writing and spent hours giving feedback to every student and was kind of tough with the grades. I did go down on her while she was doing an IM session with 4 students smile.gif smile.gif So you never really know what your prof is doing during class.
BobVersion1
QUOTE (yeffy @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 10:27 AM) *
This girl i used to hook up with was a professor for UoP. I used to make fun of her for it but she really took it seriously and spent a lot of time with her students. She taught creative writing and spent hours giving feedback to every student and was kind of tough with the grades. I did go down on her while she was doing an IM session with 4 students smile.gif smile.gif So you never really know what your prof is doing during class.

Hmm maybe I SHOULD go to this school... lol
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Don Giovanni
i failed out of the university of pheonix
Suited_Up
QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 12:34 PM) *
i failed out of the university of pheonix

Maybe you went to the wrong site.
Dogpatch
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 2:53 PM) *
Maybe you went to the wrong site.



He went to the .net instead of the .com. Bad beat.
yeffy
QUOTE (Dogpatch @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 3:00 PM) *
He went to the .net instead of the .com. Bad beat.



Dogpatch
QUOTE (yeffy @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 3:44 PM) *


Excellent.
aadams_22
QUOTE (BobVersion1 @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 9:18 AM) *
Thanks for all the replies, it really helps!
That's what I'm worried about. I've heard people say they have gone there and the classes are to easy and the teachers grade to easily... I don't want to go, get easy As and have it be worth nada..


Regardless of what some people think the school is an accredited university. Besides it's not like they give diplomas away. People do earn them.

I say go for it.
scram
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 2:30 PM) *
Regardless of what some people think the school is an accredited university. Besides it's not like they give diplomas away. People do earn them.

I say go for it.


How old are you?
aadams_22
QUOTE (scram @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 4:53 PM) *
How old are you?


28

you?
Pot Odds RAC
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 1:30 PM) *
Regardless of what some people think the school is an accredited university. Besides it's not like they give diplomas away. People do earn them.

I say go for it.

See, the thing is, perceived "worth" is important. This is why different "accredited" diplomas from different universities have different "worths". Just because a Community College's program is "accredited" doesn't mean it buys you the same as a Harvard degree (also accredited btw)

Take it from someone who has several degrees and actually is in a position to hire others, a UofP on-line degree is not "crap" but also not nearly the same as a B&M degree even from Thunderbird.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 6:32 PM) *
See, the thing is, perceived "worth" is important. This is why different "accredited" diplomas from different universities have different "worths". Just because a Community College's program is "accredited" doesn't mean it buys you the same as a Harvard degree (also accredited btw)

Take it from someone who has several degrees and actually is in a position to hire others, a UofP on-line degree is not "crap" but also not nearly the same as a B&M degree even from Thunderbird.

what do you do? you hiring?
renaedawn
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 5:36 PM) *
what do you do? you hiring?


Damn, baby, you are desperately hating that job, huh?
aadams_22
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 5:32 PM) *
See, the thing is, perceived "worth" is important. This is why different "accredited" diplomas from different universities have different "worths". Just because a Community College's program is "accredited" doesn't mean it buys you the same as a Harvard degree (also accredited btw)

Take it from someone who has several degrees and actually is in a position to hire others, a UofP on-line degree is not "crap" but also not nearly the same as a B&M degree even from Thunderbird.


I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. As a matter of fact I think that all undergrad degrees should be obtained from a B&M school because of the experience that it offers. Personally I wouldn't change my undergrad experience for anything. I think companies are more lenient however with an online graduate degree; due to the fact that the student has already put up with all of the BS that is college and obtained the degree. At that point they are out in the real world and they realize that getting that masters or PhD is harder to do with all of the responsibilities that the college graduate now has.

That aside, not knowing what kind of responsibilities he has in his life this may be the best choice for him to obtain a Bachelors degree.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (renaedawn @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 6:40 PM) *
Damn, baby, you are desperately hating that job, huh?

well you know what? my boss wasn't there today and it was actually ok. I think I've found my problem.


that, and I think I just hate working in general.
Pot Odds RAC
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 2:44 PM) *
well you know what? my boss wasn't there today and it was actually ok. I think I've found my problem.
that, and I think I just hate working in general.

You sound like a qualified candidate. How much signing bonus do you demand?
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (Pot Odds RAC @ Thursday, September 6th, 2007, 6:47 PM) *
You sound like a qualified candidate. How much signing bonus do you demand?

oh please ignore that post. I will accept $10,000. Thank you.
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