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Pan
What's a reasonable hourly rate for a winning player in a $50NL 6-max cash game online? How about $100NL? I haven't been playing long enough to have any sense of how the swings even out.
No_Neck
QUOTE (Pan @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 5:28 PM) *
What's a reasonable hourly rate for a winning player in a $50NL 6-max cash game online? How about $100NL? I haven't been playing long enough to have any sense of how the swings even out.


if you haven't played enough hands for the swings to even out you haven't played enough hands to know you are a winner.
Pan
Definitely true. I'm a slightly losing player long-term in full ring games, and play for entertainment. I'm still curious about what a good player makes at 6-max, though.
krup24
How many tables are we talking?
Mattnxtc
Ive seen people makin $50/hr but they are generally playin 10 tables.
GabeTheKid
i'll speak for 1/2 nl cuz that's where i got the majority of my hands...my hourly rate for 4 tables is approximately $100/hour...
i run at about 8ptbb/100
Pan
QUOTE (krup24 @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 6:05 PM) *
How many tables are we talking?


Let's say per table, with the understanding that your efficiency probably decreases with each added table. Or just say how many tables. I appreciate the responses so far.
Ricer98
$50 and $100 NL you could probably expect alittle less since the players are probably more skilled on average. Playing 2 tables at a time of $10 and $25 NL my averages are 27.21 BB per hour, and 26.02 BB per 100 hands. Those numbers are from a little over 15k hands.
No_Neck
QUOTE (Ricer98 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 3:18 PM) *
$50 and $100 NL you could probably expect alittle less since the players are probably more skilled on average. Playing 2 tables at a time of $10 and $25 NL my averages are 27.21 BB per hour, and 26.02 BB per 100 hands. Those numbers are from a little over 15k hands.



I don't think those numbers are sustainable... IMHO.
NoBBiR
QUOTE (Ricer98 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 11:18 AM) *
$50 and $100 NL you could probably expect alittle less since the players are probably more skilled on average. Playing 2 tables at a time of $10 and $25 NL my averages are 27.21 BB per hour, and 26.02 BB per 100 hands. Those numbers are from a little over 15k hands.


Yeah, that's running very good. I don't think thats really reliable data just yet. Maybe it is, but it would only be reliable based on that it is 10max and 25max. At higher levels that would never be sustainable.

I think a solid PTBB/100 is around 4-5. Or so I've been told.

My friend runs at around ~2BB's per 100 @ 50 and he handily makes $1,000+ a month. He says he runs bad, but he just sucks smile.gif
Ricer98
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 4:37 PM) *
Yeah, that's running very good. I don't think thats really reliable data just yet. Maybe it is, but it would only be reliable based on that it is 10max and 25max. At higher levels that would never be sustainable.

I think a solid PTBB/100 is around 4-5. Or so I've been told.

My friend runs at around ~2BB's per 100 @ 50 and he handily makes $1,000+ a month. He says he runs bad, but he just sucks smile.gif


I wouldn't say this isn't running good, just the play is sooo horrible these games are super easy to beat. I havn't run spectacular by any means and 15k hands is a fairly big sample size. I think these numbers are sustainable, at these levels. Because for the first 4k hands I was between 50-60 bb/100 and have leveled out in the 25-30 bb/100 range, with very little variance, in the last 5k hands.
Money022
QUOTE (Ricer98 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 8:42 PM) *
I wouldn't say this isn't running good, just the play is sooo horrible these games are super easy to beat. I havn't run spectacular by any means and 15k hands is a fairly big sample size. I think these numbers are sustainable, at these levels. Because for the first 4k hands I was between 50-60 bb/100 and have leveled out in the 25-30 bb/100 range, with very little variance, in the last 5k hands.


15k hands is hardly a sample size. Come back to us when you've done this over about 100k hands and I'll become a believer. You're basically on a two weak heater. We've all been there.
cwik
For an excellent player, I honestly believe the $10nl game is beatable for 20bb/100.

The kicker is the is no reason for an excellent player to be playing the .5/.10 game.
tskillz187
QUOTE (Money022 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 6:55 PM) *
You're basically on a two weak heater. We've all been there.


Speak for yourself.
AKProdigy
I think that it really depends on the level you're playing at. I think a PTBB/100 hands of 8 - 10 is very good at NL100 or NL200, and a return of 10 - 13 is good for NL25 and NL50. If you're a bit below, you're still good, those are just more optimal numbers as far as I've heard. Of course, if you're 1 or 2 tabling, you might be able to sustain a bit higher rate.
NoBBiR
QUOTE (Ricer98 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 5:42 PM) *
I wouldn't say this isn't running good, just the play is sooo horrible these games are super easy to beat. I havn't run spectacular by any means and 15k hands is a fairly big sample size. I think these numbers are sustainable, at these levels. Because for the first 4k hands I was between 50-60 bb/100 and have leveled out in the 25-30 bb/100 range, with very little variance, in the last 5k hands.


50-60 is a complete, hot as fire, upswingalingadingdong. If you're one or two tabling that's fine, but if you're multitabling, that's a serious sick run. Just wait til it evens out a little bit. 15k hands is really a small SS. Just wait til every KK runs into AA and every AA runs into sets on the flop. You'll cool off and want to kill yourself. I know people that log nearly 5k hands a day, so 15k is nothing.

QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 7:23 PM) *
Speak for yourself.


Yeah really, I never have either. Interesting.....

QUOTE (AKProdigy @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 8:38 PM) *
I think that it really depends on the level you're playing at. I think a PTBB/100 hands of 8 - 10 is very good at NL100 or NL200, and a return of 10 - 13 is good for NL25 and NL50. If you're a bit below, you're still good, those are just more optimal numbers as far as I've heard. Of course, if you're 1 or 2 tabling, you might be able to sustain a bit higher rate.


If you're beating 100 and 200NL for 8-10 PTBB/100, you are straight up destroying the game. And 10-13 is disgusting at 50NL. I guess if you're one or two tabling that's much more feasible but its still sickly high for those stakes, IMO.
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