NoBBiR
Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 8:33 PM
QUOTE (NonZeroPossibility @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:38 PM)

Well..... we know that 2 on the river didn't help anyone. And I'm sorry, but it's not possible to "turn" a straight on that board. If they have it, they flopped it with 79 or Q9. Q 9 is unlikely because HELLO you have 2 of the Q's. If someone has hit 2 pair or a set on the turn, they are probably raising your bet right then and there. BB has nothing obv. CO is only one to worry about. 66 is probably what I'm most afraid of, but I think CO has something like T 9. I call the $11 all day long.
"Turn" was the old wording for the flop, so technically, he's right, someone could have "turned" a straight.

No one is folding J10 here, especially at this limit, no matter what you do, the same with a set so I don't mind a check.
Once the CO shoves, I'm probably never folding unless you're sure he's a real tightass. You're beating a lot of stupid hands he makes this shove with. AJ, KJ, etc. He could also have had a hand like 910 and feel its a good time to take a shot at the pot. 2:1, I think this is a call.
Also, a tip for playing 10nl: Betting between 4-5x to open, and adding one BB (I actually add about 1bb for 1 limper and 3bb for every 2 limpers) on top of 5x per limper is very much +EV. People fold absolute garbage a lot more to those bets preflop than to 3.5xers.